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Stretch, don't know if it was intentional but you put his name and email in your post.

Personally I don't like the idea of any source giving out someones personal info no matter the situation.
 
Stretch, don't know if it was intentional but you put his name and email in your post.

Personally I don't like the idea of any source giving out someones personal info no matter the situation.

I agree. That needs to come down! Not a good look for BioLogic. It's a deal breaker with a lot of people. People need to feel like their info is safe. I hope it was an accident. Stretch doesn't strike me as someone who would do that on purpose.
 
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I just can't believe he tried to come back here pimping astro's gear. When I have emails showing he ran bio, and called Astro's gear "shit"

I don't believe Astro's gear is shit.

But this guy is clearly a liar. That much is blatantly obvious.
 
Burned your Bio connect??? Stupid fucking idiot.

Spot on. I have used quite a few labs, and BIO is on another level. I am currently doing a review of another source, and while not bad, actually pretty good, they are bottling some shit that needs to be taken off the market.

Overall, I am probably going to recommend them. They have items (like TNE...good stuff) and Winny tabs that I can't get from my primary.

The bottom line is, they are not as consistently reliable as Bio in terms of quality. I ran some Body Synthetics, and their gear was the closest to Bio in terms of quality. However their TA was a month.
 
Stretch, don't know if it was intentional but you put his name and email in your post.

Personally I don't like the idea of any source giving out someones personal info no matter the situation.

I agree. That needs to come down! Not a good look for Bio...

Guys.

If there was ANY chance this was a mistake and he forgot, or something else happened with his life, then I never would have posted it.

But he is lying, blatantly lying and he stole.

Do you think this is the one and only person who has ordered and received gear and not sent payment?

Hell no.

But no one else's email address is posted, because I can never be sure what happened to them. Did they get arrested? Did they buy a house and get too busy? There are a number of things that could have happened that prevented them from making payment, and for that reason I would never violate their trust.

There is a member here who ordered, received gear, and never paid. We never said anything on the forum dogging him, nor did we take ANY other action against him. He contacted us after about 6 weeks, and let us know what happened in his life that led to lack of payment. Payment was eventually made, and he is now ordering with us again. We don't just run around posting info on a whim.

HOWEVER, this guy is WAY different. Look at the email, read it, and comprehend what he is saying, then look at his first post in this thread. This guy is trying to lie to get more free gear.

He stole from us weeks ago. Was I posting his information then?

No. He crossed a line when he came here today making this thread. He needs to be gone. Period.

I edited that email to delete his address, I'm not trying to cross any lines. The only information in that email, is his GMAIL address. Whether that email address really correlates to who he is in real life, or not, is anyone's guess.
 
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Guys.

If there was ANY chance this was a mistake and he forgot, or something else happened with his life, then I never would have posted it.

But he is lying, blatantly lying and he stole.

Do you think this is the one and only person who has ordered and received gear and not sent payment?

Hell no.

But no one else's email address is posted, because I can never be sure what happened to them. Did they get arrested? Did they buy a house and get too busy? There are a number of things that could have happened that prevented them from making payment, and for that reason I would never violate their trust.

There is a member here who ordered, received gear, and never paid. We never said anything on the forum dogging him, nor did we take ANY other action against him. He contacted us after about 6 weeks, and let us know what happened in his life that led to lack of payment. Payment was eventually made, and he is now ordering with us again. We don't just run around posting info on a whim.

HOWEVER, this guy is WAY different. Look at the email, read it, and comprehend what he is saying, then look at his first post in this thread. This guy is trying to lie to get more free gear.

He stole from us weeks ago. Was I posting his information then?

No. He crossed a line when he came here today making this thread. He needs to be gone. Period.

I edited that email to delete his address, I'm not trying to cross any lines. The only information in that email, is his GMAIL address. Whether that email address really correlates to who he is in real life, or not, is anyone's guess.

I understand where you're coming from. It just looks like a dick move and can reflect badly on your company. I'm sure a lot of your current customers don't want to piss you off now. It crosses a line that shouldn't be crossed EVER. It's a shitty feeling from a consumer stand point. Please don't take this as a flame, just my opinion(one I feel strongly about).
 
Not that what he did was right, but posting personal info on either side of these transactions is unforgivable in my eyes.

If thats his real name, having that posted is far far worse than getting scammed for a few hundred dollars or lying or whatever you're using to rationalize it.

Whats to stop him from coming here and posting payment info, email addresses, return addresses used? Sure they are all fake and discardable but it would certainly be a hassle that would cause you to spend time fixing.
 
I understand where you're coming from. It just looks like a dick move and can reflect badly on your company. I'm sure a lot of your current customers don't want to piss you off now. It crosses a line that shouldn't be crossed EVER. It's a shitty feeling from a consumer stand point. Please don't take this as a flame, just my opinion(one I feel strongly about).

Absolutely. I understand your point. I won't shirk responsibility for what I did.

I was mad when I posted it. But I did it on purpose. I edited the physical address, but I left the Gmail address consciously.

I read your requests to remove the information within the window, and I chose not to edit it.

Fuck him.

Why does the "line" of responsibility only lie with the source?

So customers can lie, cheat, steal with impunity?

You struck a nerve saying my other customers "wouldn't want to piss me off". I hope that's not the case. Several customers have pissed me off several times. We just tell them not to order anymore. The only customers who should have anything to fear should be those customers who want to lie/cheat/steal from us.

I feel we have demonstrated that we won't act impulsively, or until we are certain of all the facts, but if we can prove unequivocally that you are lying about us, or stealing from us, we MAY post your email address...that's what has been shown here today.

Even as egregious as "champs" offense was. We still refrained from posting anything but his email address.....big deal.
 
Not that what he did was right, but posting personal info on either side of these transactions is unforgivable in my eyes.

If thats his real name, having that posted is far far worse than getting scammed for a few hundred dollars or lying or whatever you're using to rationalize it.

Whats to stop him from coming here and posting payment info, email addresses, return addresses used? Sure they are all fake and discardable but it would certainly be a hassle that would cause you to spend time fixing.

The payment information he used was in the process of being changed before he ever created this thread. I had forgotten about him when he made this thread.

I understand you see it as unforgiveable.

Why don't you click on WorldChamp's name and use the "send email" feature.

See what email address pops up...:rolleyes:

You guys are being dramatic, we didn't expose anything.
 
He needs to pay what he owes plain and simple! No if's and's or but's about it! Scamming is unacceptable no matter who does the scamming.

The member who ran into hard times did the right thing and made payment. I guess there isn't any honor amongst theives. SMH!!!

I am in the middle about posting the information. I can see both sides of the arguement. I do believe posting his email address doesn't violate trust when you can clearly get that from people's profiles. Sources that are labeled scammers we have no problem putting them on blast and likewise we shouldn't have an issue putting reverse scammers on blast!
 
You struck a nerve saying my other customers "wouldn't want to piss me off". I hope that's not the case. Several customers have pissed me off several times. We just tell them not to order anymore. The only customers who should have anything to fear should be those customers who want to lie/cheat/steal from us.

I understand completely. You treat your customers with tons of respect. People love you on this board. You do SSOOO many things right. I DO agree that this guy is a complete piece of shit and I respect your opinion to share that with the community. I personally wouldn't stoop to that level, but that's just me.

OP.... You're a reverse scammer and what goes around comes around. You fucked over Astro and Bio. These guys are taking a risk to offer us quality products and service...Why ruin that? Why try to take advantage? Test is $30-$40 a vial. Stop being a cheap fuck! Pay Bio their money and cut the bullshit!
 
I understand completely. You treat your customers with tons of respect. People love you on this board. You do SSOOO many things right. I DO agree that this guy is a complete piece of shit and I respect your opinion to share that with the community. I personally wouldn't stoop to that level, but that's just me.

OP.... You're a reverse scammer and what goes around comes around. You fucked over Astro and Bio. These guys are taking a risk to offer us quality products and service...Why ruin that? Why try to take advantage? Test is $30-$40 a vial. Stop being a cheap fuck! Pay Bio their money and cut the bullshit!

I appreciate that.

As far as him paying what he owes. We would never accept payment from him at this point. This is NOT about the money he owes. This is about him thinking he could come back here and spread his bullshit and get more gear. It's obvious he views Meso as his own little "AAS tree" where he can show up, talk a bunch of shit, and free gear rains down on him. He did it once, and Astro and I obliged him, it blows my mind that he thought he could return and shake the tree again.

Now, I just want him gone. That's all.
 
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I understand completely. You treat your customers with tons of respect. People love you on this board. You do SSOOO many things right. I DO agree that this guy is a complete piece of shit and I respect your opinion to share that with the community. I personally wouldn't stoop to that level, but that's just me.

OP.... You're a reverse scammer and what goes around comes around. You fucked over Astro and Bio. These guys are taking a risk to offer us quality products and service...Why ruin that? Why try to take advantage? Test is $30-$40 a vial. Stop being a cheap fuck! Pay Bio their money and cut the bullshit![/QUOTE]


Pay what you owe OP!!!
 
I appreciate that.

As far as him paying what he owes. We would never accept payment from him at this point. This is NOT about the money he owes. This is about him thinking he could come back here and spread his bullshit and gear more gear. I just want him gone. That's all.

He is pretty much done here anyway at this point. No one will respect him until he makes it right.
 
I hope he takes care of what he owes and maybe a little extra for dicking someone over and if he doesn't I am sure it will all come back to bite him in the ass.
 
I.sent the.money its.been 4 weeks and.now your saying u did.not get any money that's funny why the hell did you wait 4 weeks to say where is payment if you did not get it just asking simple question and as far as the other bullshit your saying about me you think I would actully give out my real.name and adress give me a break and as far as astro I did.run his gear for this whole meet you said you would not do anything for.me if I was with him just told you what you wanted to hear you went about it the wrong way all wrong you wait.4 weeks to.say I.am.scamming where was my email privately saying you did not get it I post a update and u blast me you want to.post my name well what you think it is and email what you think it is nice move I have the adress where I.sent the money where the gear is at you don't see me.getting all pissed off and putting that on here smooth move exlax real classy I would have sent you the.money again no.problem if you really did not get it
 
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On Mon, October 28, 2013 @securenym.net wrote:
> Yo, what's the deal man?
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On Thu, October 24, 2013, @securenym.net wrote:
> Got that number?
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On Wed, October 23, 2013, @securenym.net wrote:
> Not a big deal. Life happens. I can understand that.
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On Wed, October 23, 2013, @gmail.com wrote:
> have number for u tomorrow boss been on midnights

On Wed, October 23, 2013 @securenym.net wrote:
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>> What's up man?
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>> Did payment get sent?
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That's low man a lot of people do not understand how hard it is to find good quality gear also a good source that will take care of you if you take care of them. That guys a douche
 
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