Meso Community Group Blood Work Project

[Voltrader]

Alright...here we go.

Objective to get a random testing group of at least six individuals with different ages and body compositions. This group will provide blood work according to the protocol set(Colt is putting together a protocol in another thread). The group will run 500mg Test E/C ew we can decide on that I lean towards C we will see what the volunteers want. I originally wanted Test only cycles but I know this will be difficult considering most of you are getting ready for winter cycles. I will probably just run a 6 week Test only blast. All Testosterone will come from the same source and further discussions on this part will be held in discussion with the volunteers. The group will be split into 2 groups one group will split doses on the same days and the other will do single weekly injections on the same day. IF someone of you have the ability to run watson at 500mg ew this would be a nice control.

The other point is please do not volunteer if you can not commit. This is providing a first step in probably a loonnng process of figuring out UGL's and our blood work. It will be very important to follow everything to a T. Anyone can volunteer but it really help if you are somewhat a regular poster so at least we can have some confidence things will be done how they are suppose to be.

I am really curious if body types and splitting doses have more then marginal effects. This will also start to help us determine how under dose the gear we receive really is. I hope this project alone and continuing blood work pushes Meso to fore front of a true testing community and push sources to put out the best product. I am open to ideas sort of....lol.

If you want to be part of this just list your stats and if you are on TRT or going to run PCT. Also list if you are willing to run Test only this might be a case were we let a newer member or first time cycler in. If not Test only list other compounds you are going to run.

Alright let's get this ball rolling and show the UGL community once again Meso is leading the way.

 

[Moose]

I intend to run a test c/500 only cycle next month. It's my second cycle so I was going to limit it to test anyhow. I will have bloods before I start. Have not selected a UGL yet. I will follow Colts protocol but I definitely would want to be in the group that pins once a day. I had planned a 10 week cycle.

Alright...here we go.

Objective to get a random testing group of at least six individuals with different ages and body compositions. This group will provide blood work according to the protocol set(Colt is putting together a protocol in another thread). The group will run 500mg Test E/C ew we can decide on that I lean towards C we will see what the volunteers want. I originally wanted Test only cycles but I know this will be difficult considering most of you are getting ready for winter cycles. I will probably just run a 6 week Test only blast. All Testosterone will come from the same source and further discussions on this part will be held in discussion with the volunteers. The group will be split into 2 groups one group will split doses on the same days and the other will do single weekly injections on the same day. IF someone of you have the ability to run watson at 500mg ew this would be a nice control.

The other point is please do not volunteer if you can not commit. This is providing a first step in probably a loonnng process of figuring out UGL's and our blood work. It will be very important to follow everything to a T. Anyone can volunteer but it really help if you are somewhat a regular poster so at least we can have some confidence things will be done how they are suppose to be.

I am really curious if body types and splitting doses have more then marginal effects. This will also start to help us determine how under dose the gear we receive really is. I hope this project alone and continuing blood work pushes Meso to fore front of a true testing community and push sources to put out the best product. I am open to ideas sort of....lol.

If you want to be part of this just list your stats and if you are on TRT or going to run PCT. Also list if you are willing to run Test only this might be a case were we let a newer member or first time cycler in. If not Test only list other compounds you are going to run.

Alright let's get this ball rolling and show the UGL community once again Meso is leading the way.

 

[Voltrader]

Moose sounds good you have had a few bumps here at first but it looks like to me you want to be productive member of the community. Hang on and lets see who else we get and we will move all volunteers on private discussion about sources.

 

[Voltrader]

I intend to run a test c/500 only cycle next month. It's my second cycle so I was going to limit it to test anyhow. I will have bloods before I start. Have not selected a UGL yet. I will follow Colts protocol but I definitely would want to be in the group that pins once a day. I had planned a 10 week cycle.

Stats??? Age Height weight guess at your Bf%

 

[4leafclover]

What is the time frame you are looking at? I start my next cycle in Feb, but it isn't a test only cycle (test C and P,tren,mast,tbol,win, possibly primo). I was going to get bloods regardless because Burr asked me to (well cajoled). I will be running 600-900mg of test cyp to start, with frontload based on 600mg/wk. I might not run 900mg, but I will know in the first week if I will up the dose or not.

 

[Voltrader]

@4leafclover sooner rather then later. The group has to be run exactly the same dose to get somewhat of a scientific result. Just run bloods man and post. It would be nice if someone who uses excel proficiently started a thread to post blood work in and compiled data. Once Colt has written protocol and that is concrete we all need to follow that. This group or anyone else WE ALL NEED TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

 

[mghoward74]

I'm down....

40 years old
6'2
233 lbs. ...This morning
naturally big/athletic build.

I can run test only but would like to add Tbol, Mast E and anavar. Don't know how much or if that will skew numbers.

All gear will be from MikeStrong.
Test E 300 pin twice a week
Mast E 300 same as test
Tbol 40-60 mg week 1-5
Anavar 40-60 mg week 7-12

Pct will be:
Aromasin 12.5 mg ed or 25 mg eod
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

More than likely T3 & Clen. ..99% sure

Pre-Bloods have been done by privatemdlabs. 10/31/14

Mid - bloods will be done by labsmd

More than likely I'll start cycle 11/17

will post in cycle log also

edit: HCG twice a week at 250 ius

 

[mghoward74]

Test 411 (was 556 a month ago)
LH 6.5
FSH 5.3
ESTRADIOL 38.6 (higher than I like but still in range)

 

[Voltrader]

I like 11/17 if we can get this put together rather quickly.

 

[heady muscle]

I will let you know after next Friday ( a week from tomorrow) if I can participate in this (just had some bloods done from the doc). The only problem, I was planning on running EQ with the test cyp. Not sure I am up for test only.

 

[mghoward74]

4leafclover. ....will be getting with you soon

 

[Voltrader]

I will let you know after next Friday ( a week from tomorrow) if I can participate in this (just had some bloods done from the doc). The only problem, I was planning on running EQ with the test cyp. Not sure I am up for test only.

It is not so much that it has to be test only it makes it more scientific for sure. This is just a start so let us know. It is time for winter cycles and I understand that.

 

[Moose]

Stats??? Age Height weight guess at your Bf%

43 years old. 5'9". Bf is probably around 20%. 180 lbs. I'm a hard gainer.

 

[redrum720]

Hey volt do you want all participants using the same source or different but same pining

 

[Moose]

Moose sounds good you have had a few bumps here at first but it looks like to me you want to be productive member of the community. Hang on and lets see who else we get and we will move all volunteers on private discussion about sources.

I definitely want to contribute however I can.

 

[Voltrader]

Hey volt do you want all participants using the same source or different but same pining

It is best to do the same I guess it will depend on how many guys volunteer. If we can split. As many controls that we can keep the same the more conclusive our results will be.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

AWESOME!! Hats off to Vol and colt for putting this together... Definitely agree with a Watson control if possible..

 

[OdieM]

I will volunteer if you guys will have me. I can't start till around 12-15 thats about a month from now. I would run MS 500 TC a week split into 2 doses but I also want to run 50mg Dbol ED the first 4 weeks. I'm still working out the PCT and any advice would be helpful. I have ran about 6-8 cycles through the years and NEVER did PCT. Yes, I know I did not know what I was doing and I only ran 6-8 week cycles so I was told I didn't need to do PCT. ( I Know I know thats why I joined this board is to educate myself)
I am 32 195lbs at 5'11" BF16%. I will have bloods done before and on week 7. I have not ran gear in 2yrs now but I was planing on running some in Dec and then a BIG cycle in May. Anyway, its up to y'all. I would love to help the board because by doing so will help me. It will help to see how under dosed gear is and it will educate me on the PCT.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Hi Volt - I agree the first thing to do is get a ballpark figure using the "gold standard" , Watsons Testosterone-Cypionate . This is what all UGL"s are compaired to...After this is established then you can compare these readings to UGL"s test samples .

Different guys are going to have different results , even with the same control test . There is no set standard for everyone . Weight,age,metabolism,experience all come into play as well as time tested and the trough period . ~Ogh

 

[Voltrader]

Hi Volt - I think first thing to do is get a ballpark figure using the "gold standard" , Watsons Testosterone-Cypionate . This is what all UGL"s are compaired to...After this is established then you can compare these readings to UGL"s test samples .

Different guys are going to have different results , even with the same control test . There is no set standard for everyone . Weight,age,metabolism,experience all come into play as well as time tested and the trough period . ~Ogh

That is what we want to see how marginal difference these other variables that come nto play. I agree I am hoping someone will come on and run the Watson. W ejust need better control this is the just a start it is also a good way to encourage testing. I am do'er OGH and I do not want to sit around and wait on semantics. eventually we will have a full scientific study and both of the top labs here will be well documented with blood work fro different dosing protocols. It is not so much compare to Watson we want to do that but we would like to see variances in even a UGL. Try to narrow down and decrease this same ongoing conversation about blood work. Now who has enough watson to run 500 ew? Step up!!!