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[readalot]

I'm one of the least experienced people on here but here's what I experienced.

I'm on TRT (and have tried a couple other compounds) but I tried Tren Ace for 8 weeks titrating from 50 mg/wk up to 150. I was very surprised and super happy with more visible results than I imagined. Towards the end some night sweats and shorter sleep but the sleep quality was still high per my garmin (if that matters) which I thought was interesting.
I think I'll do it once a year in my summer cut cycle but probably keep it below 100 mg/wk.

Thanks Brother. Sounds like a super responsible way that you tested the waters. Appreciate it.

I am a big fan of slow ramps with new compounds.

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

Thanks Brother. Sounds like a super responsible way that you tested the waters. Appreciate it.

I am a big fan of slow ramps with new compounds.

As I said before I think 10mg a day would be a good start at 70mg a week
I think the low dose stuff is mostly a meme but it’s also nothing to scoff at, with ace people tend to forget you get more tren/mg than say tren e however I think starting at 10 is still better in my honest opinion

At the same time though fuck it who says you can’t middle ground and take something like 7-8mg a day if you want to test the waters for a week then go to the 10mg. a good sweet spot for most is 300mg a week from what I’ve seen before they start getting sides. I’m probably not the best to ask I seem to respond well to it but I’d still say 10mg a day for 70mg a week is a good start for nutrition partitioning

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

These or similar?

https://thinksteroids.com/community/media/20250807_181314_1-gif.112634/

I have no idea. I don't have any

 

[Stubb]

Ye

I'm one of the least experienced people on here but here's what I experienced.

I'm on TRT (and have tried a couple other compounds) but I tried Tren Ace for 8 weeks titrating from 50 mg/wk up to 150. I was very surprised and super happy with more visible results than I imagined. Towards the end some night sweats and shorter sleep but the sleep quality was still high per my garmin (if that matters) which I thought was interesting.
I think I'll do it once a year in my summer cut cycle but probably keep it below 100 mg/wk.

I have had the same experience, minus the night sweats. Sleep worsened towards the end and I did find myself getting grumpier. I could tell when it was time to stop. I recon most of the issue people report is because they go for too long. 8 weeks has been my max so far.

On week 7 at the moment and I'm doing just fine so far. A little more serious maybe.

Haven't gone over 150mg and have switched from ace to enanthate half way through. Titrating up and down A/E over a couple weeks.

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

Only from my own perspectivce, maybe you can get some ideas...

I am playing with (Tren Ace) 2 weeks on, and 2-3 weeks off right now, 25 mg ed
My recovery is through the roof, when I am on for short bursts. Downside It just takes my breath away (just k!lls my way of normal life of moving around as a active human) after about 14 days + It slowly turns me in to a "Grumpy-smurf", he is quite funny to play around with though - But happily in my case, it's only towards situations/people that would trigger me anyway... Not just random things.

If I crank the dose up to about +50mg ed , everything just goes *south* real fast, just my own perception of 'the sheer amount' of toxicity in my body accumulates rapidly = which equates to = It's not joyfull for me anymore......

But I really like playing around with it , powerfull stuff!
Some compounds I can run in Bigger doses - this Tren-fellow I can not....

I’d also recommend melatonin not only for the sleep but it has neuroprotective properties that seems to also help with Alzheimer’s prevention

It’s a win win “ancillary” of sorts for tren

The Neuroprotective Effects of Melatonin: Possible Role in the Pathophysiology of Neuropsychiatric Disease - PMC

Melatonin is a hormone that is secreted by the pineal gland. To date, melatonin is known to regulate the sleep cycle by controlling the circadian rhythm. However, recent advances in neuroscience and molecular biology have led to the discovery of new ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[hexagonal]

I've been seeing this TRTren thing more and more and thought it was just a TikTok broccoli head fad but now serious people are doing it. What's the thinking behind it? Presumably test would be higher for a full anabolic cycle, so is this just supposed to fold in some specific Tren benefits on top of your test cruise? Or is this protocol specific to the currently funded mad science?

I'm curious how much tren is necessary for the IGF-1 related effects - I've not been able to find robust research here, but if we can get the nutrient partitioning and increased IGF-1 and satellite cell activity in muscles from lower doses as some believe, that'd be a pretty significant win, even if it's not necessarily the full effects we would see at higher doses.

We really only have the reduction in serum IGF-1 levels people report on tren as a proxy for this since there's no human research, though, so it's tough to say.

 

[Mastedon]

I’d also recommend melatonin not only for the sleep but it has neuroprotective properties that seems to also help with Alzheimer’s prevention

It’s a win win “ancillary” of sorts for tren

The Neuroprotective Effects of Melatonin: Possible Role in the Pathophysiology of Neuropsychiatric Disease - PMC

Melatonin is a hormone that is secreted by the pineal gland. To date, melatonin is known to regulate the sleep cycle by controlling the circadian rhythm. However, recent advances in neuroscience and molecular biology have led to the discovery of new ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I have a lot of interest in this and have been looking into anything and everything to help "de-risk" tren.
Good call out on the melatonin.

I've been reading about anything possibly neuroprotective or that repairs or increases BDNF so things like pinealon, cerebrolysin, selegiline, etc. so if anyone has any ideas please share!


...there's a ton more stuff to look into but I'd love to hear from others.

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

I have a lot of interest in this and have been looking into anything and everything to help "de-risk" tren.
Good call out on the melatonin.

I've been reading about anything possibly neuroprotective or that repairs or increases BDNF so things like pinealon, cerebrolysin, selegiline, etc. so if anyone has any ideas please share!


...there's a ton more stuff to look into but I'd love to hear from others.

In that case look into semax and selank, both peptides and I believe one was experimented with by the soviets and was said to help not only protect neurons but restructure and help those with adhd, helps focus and memory anecdotally

Nootropics like lions mane and cordyseps are great and i personally used lions mane and chaga to help during language study

Semax+ lions mane(sometimes included in pre workouts as to not overthink it make it easy to add into your regimen) and melatonin for sleep and I’m sure you’ll be more than fine

 

[Mastedon]

In that case look into semax and selank, both peptides and I believe one was experimented with by the soviets and was said to help not only protect neurons but restructure and help those with adhd, helps focus and memory anecdotally

Nootropics like lions mane and cordyseps are great and i personally used lions mane and chaga to help during language study

Semax+ lions mane(sometimes included in pre workouts as to not overthink it make it easy to add into your regimen) and melatonin for sleep and I’m sure you’ll be more than fine

Perfect. I have some Semax already but haven't run it. Might as well give it a test run now.

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

Perfect. I have some Semax already but haven't run it. Might as well give it a test run now.

Now just get you a pre workout that has lions mane for focus and some melatonin in case you get sleeping issues. The less you overthink it and the easier it is to include consistently in your regimen, the better

 

[verylargeshoes]

Nutrition partitioning augmented by TREN without the sides of Tren.

Just to be clear, I wasn’t asking about why low dose Tren. I get that some people, for reasons I guess I just have to accept as valid, don’t wanna fuck transsexuals in the alley behind the gay bar and then road rage the whole way home before they angrily stare down the ceiling all night instead of sleeping.

I’m just wondering what Tren is intended to do in the stack at actual TRT, physiological levels of test. What’s the use case? Generally I think of cruises or being on TRT as states where you’d be staying close to a natural state to restore health markers, avoid organ stress, etc. Doing that, plus “just a little” Tren seems like a new kind of phase I don’t yet understand. Even with albino Tren.

 

[readalot]

Just to be clear, I wasn’t asking about why low dose Tren. I get that some people, for reasons I guess I just have to accept as valid, don’t wanna fuck transsexuals in the alley behind the gay bar and then road rage the whole way home before they angrily stare down the ceiling all night instead of sleeping.

I’m just wondering what Tren is intended to do in the stack at actual TRT, physiological levels of test. What’s the use case? Generally I think of cruises or being on TRT as states where you’d be staying close to a natural state to restore health markers, avoid organ stress, etc. Doing that, plus “just a little” Tren seems like a new kind of phase I don’t yet understand. Even with albino Tren.

For me the least harm way of trialing a new compound. Especially tren. Old dude with lower risk tolerance. I guess I could start at 1 mg/d. I kid.

To be fair, I would ramp any new compound like this. Previous history with some bad experiences.


View: https://youtu.be/mH9NzJwldok

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

Just to be clear, I wasn’t asking about why low dose Tren. I get that some people, for reasons I guess I just have to accept as valid, don’t wanna fuck transsexuals in the alley behind the gay bar and then road rage the whole way home before they angrily stare down the ceiling all night instead of sleeping.

I’m just wondering what Tren is intended to do in the stack at actual TRT, physiological levels of test. What’s the use case? Generally I think of cruises or being on TRT as states where you’d be staying close to a natural state to restore health markers, avoid organ stress, etc. Doing that, plus “just a little” Tren seems like a new kind of phase I don’t yet understand. Even with albino Tren.

If Tren makes u wanna fuck trannies I got some news for you.. you maayyy just be looking for an excuse to fuck trannies

 

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[Mastedon]

I’m just wondering what Tren is intended to do in the stack at actual TRT, physiological levels of test. What’s the use case? Generally I think of cruises or being on TRT as states where you’d be staying close to a natural state to restore health markers, avoid organ stress, etc. Doing that, plus “just a little” Tren seems like a new kind of phase I don’t yet understand. Even with albino Tren.

Yeah I agree here. To each their own but I wouldn't run Tren with TRT on a cruise. On cruise, TRT only, definitely trying to give my body a break (which I don't hit that hard on-cycle anyway) and restore health markers.

I also get wanting to test out new compounds at a low dose and titrate up. Especially for us older guys.

 

[Tdeck81]

Just to be clear, I wasn’t asking about why low dose Tren. I get that some people, for reasons I guess I just have to accept as valid, don’t wanna fuck transsexuals in the alley behind the gay bar and then road rage the whole way home before they angrily stare down the ceiling all night instead of sleeping.

I’m just wondering what Tren is intended to do in the stack at actual TRT, physiological levels of test. What’s the use case? Generally I think of cruises or being on TRT as states where you’d be staying close to a natural state to restore health markers, avoid organ stress, etc. Doing that, plus “just a little” Tren seems like a new kind of phase I don’t yet understand. Even with albino Tren.

 

[verylargeshoes]

If Tren makes u wanna fuck trannies I got some news for you.. you maayyy just be looking for an excuse to fuck trannies

I've never really done more than a little microdose experiment with tren, but have you seen some of those Thai ladyboys? Ain't need no excuse. Happily married, though...unfortunately.

My categorical error here was to assume that @readalot's protocol was in any way associated with the TRTren(d) going around. No further questions or admissions of sexual confusion.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Ye
I have had the same experience, minus the night sweats. Sleep worsened towards the end and I did find myself getting grumpier. I could tell when it was time to stop. I recon most of the issue people report is because they go for too long. 8 weeks has been my max so far.

On week 7 at the moment and I'm doing just fine so far. A little more serious maybe.

Haven't gone over 150mg and have switched from ace to enanthate half way through. Titrating up and down A/E over a couple weeks.

As I said before I think 10mg a day would be a good start at 70mg a week
I think the low dose stuff is mostly a meme but it’s also nothing to scoff at, with ace people tend to forget you get more tren/mg than say tren e however I think starting at 10 is still better in my honest opinion

At the same time though fuck it who says you can’t middle ground and take something like 7-8mg a day if you want to test the waters for a week then go to the 10mg. a good sweet spot for most is 300mg a week from what I’ve seen before they start getting sides. I’m probably not the best to ask I seem to respond well to it but I’d still say 10mg a day for 70mg a week is a good start for nutrition partitioning

Ime and Imo, if sleep goes to shit for more than a week or so, you found your personal tren dose limit

Beyond that, poor sleep quality will cancel out tren muscle gainz and wreck quality of life (probably explains many of the mood disorders)

 

[readalot]

Bump....

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[rockyraccoon]

Perfect. I have some Semax already but haven't run it. Might as well give it a test run now.

Man, can't believe my retarded ass hasn't seen this thread yet. Anyway, try making a nasal spray and compare it with injection. Personally I prefer spraying semax and selank 2x/day.