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Mesomorph best insulin protocol help
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Juicedhead
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For a first timer the best is to just add some after training according to your base diet. Say you eat 50 grams of carbs with you post training meal start with like 2-3iu after that meal and see how you respond and work it up to 5iu. Just my opinion. Make sure the meal is lean protein and just carbs dont want any fats with it.
appreciate the reply Juicehead. I have done lantus am up to 30u and like PWo humalog approx 15u to 20u at 7g carbs per u. Just trying to set up to do things right for maximum gain without wasting Insulin money and getting fat.
Juicedhead
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if youre on lantus you want to keep fats low as possible. If youre slamming a bunch after training just make sure your fats are low. To reach a new level throw in some gh with the post training meal. When I use insulin I really like just adding it to my current carb instake. I think its when guys will try to use more insulin and then have to put in carbs or sugars to cover it. Doing it this way is not the best in my opinion.
awesome thks. I prob need to be a lot more diligent on fats. Are you okay with dextrose/insulin intra? Like pwo insulin for the pump and it keeps me laser focused so no hypo.
Juicedhead
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Im not a fan of insulin before training. For me personally It makes me feel like shit while im training and makes me tired. Some guys love that way but its something youll have to try and see. Insulin is great but too much insulin is not so just remember to really try and keep it to no more than 10iu or 100g carbs a shot. You will notice its more sustainable in the long run which is the most important and your body isnt going to have this huge weight gain really quickly which in itself caueses problems.
I do pre-training (fast acting) then sip on 100grms simple carbs during workout. If I'm a bit tired/run down anyway, I definitely get some sessions where the insulin feels like it sucks some energy from me. 1st cycle running it pre-training and still undecided on it being a long term thing.
What's your cycle? Any GH in the mix?
Short acting insulins are better for reducing insulin resistance (in an out faster vs Lantus with a longer half life). Plus with Lantus you really have to be extra mindful about your diet and fat intake.
Any particular reason you're stacking Humalog + Lantus? Using just Humalog around training makes more sense to me. Are you diabetic/pre diabetic? 50iu of slin is a lot, probably also requires somewhere near 500g carbs?
More info is needed to really get an idea
Short acting insulins are better for reducing insulin resistance (in an out faster vs Lantus with a longer half life). Plus with Lantus you really have to be extra mindful about your diet and fat intake.
Any particular reason you're stacking Humalog + Lantus? Using just Humalog around training makes more sense to me. Are you diabetic/pre diabetic? 50iu of slin is a lot, probably also requires somewhere near 500g carbs?
More info is needed to really get an idea
I would simply run Humalog post-workout in conjunction with berberine (or metformin if you'd prefer). Lantus, in my opinion, is best suited for those running high levels of exogenous hGH.
The key to your success - besides the obvious things such as diet and training - is the hGH. This protocol would not yield desirable results sans hGH.
Juicedhead
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yeah insulin+gh is 10x better than just using insulin. I really think that if you arent using gh with slin youre going to have a hard time not gaining fat and you wont gain as much muscle. the gh+slin pathway has given me the most mass of anything I have used.
Agreed. That and constant glucose monitoring.
Insulin shuttles nutrients. Think of it as a key that unlocks muscle cells and allows them to take in glucose and nutrients, and therefore grow larger. This is the main reason a lot of protocols leverage it around the training window.
oh. apparently "mesomorph" is someone in decent shape and "ectomorph" are the idiots that dont eat enough. either way, I wouldnt trust anyone listing their body horoscope to run slin.
Avarice911
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Having tried rapid acting insulin (Novolog) pre, post, and pre + post, I prefer at least the preworkout use of insulin. Postworkout additionally just feels like a bonus to add to what the pre insulin has done already
Thks Sector. Just doing 3 iu gh daily. Anymore and I get edema lower legs which I dont want. When Im on point with diet its on point. I get by well using ratio of 6 grms carbs per unit of insulin. Trial and error got me there. I have good results using the lantus/humalog both. Just seeing if someone more knowledge than I has a better approach. Some pro Gurus even have days off insulin with
hits of 80iu + on lagging body part days.
You lost me Valdosta. ‘Can’t eat enough’? My diet dictates the insulin iu’s not the other way around. Thks for your input.
