Mid-Cycle Bloods/E2 help

[BFRAU]

Hoping some of you guys can chime in and help advice me to dial in on my AI dosing. First cycle, 29yro, 5' 10', 215lbs, 14% BF.

Current Cycle
1-12 Test Cyp 500mg/week (250mg 2x/week)
1-4 Dbol 40mg
15-19 Clomid 50/50/50/50
15-19 Nolva 40/40/20/20

Currently in week 6 of the cycle and started using 12.5mg Aromasin EOD @ week 4 upon symptoms.

Decided to get mid cycle blood work to determine the legitimacy of the gear and tune in on AI dosing protocol. As you can see from the results my E2 is really low and I'm thinking of holding off on aromasin for a week hoping my E2 increases a little and change my dosing to 12.5mg every 4 days. What do you guys think?

FYI Aromasin is not pharm grade, I do have pharm grade adex but have never used adex before.

Any help is much appreciated thanks again.

 

[BFRAU]

Looking back probably not the best thread to post this but I can't delete and don't want to post same thing on another thread.

 

[Dizzy]

Your E2 is pretty low man I'd dial it back. How do you feel? Also not sure what kind of gear you're running. But 500 mg of test a week my test is in the high 3,000s

 

[BFRAU]

Your E2 is pretty low man I'd dial it back. How do you feel? Also not sure what kind of gear you're running. But 500 mg of test a week my test is in the high 3,000s

Appreciate the response yea I'm def going to dial back on the AI for the time being then only use it when signs of symptoms appear no need to do the EOD protocol

As far as the test this is my first cycle and got the gear from a buddy of mine, so it appears to be underdosed a bit? Should I raise to 600mg/week? Or just let it ride?

 

[Dizzy]

Appreciate the response yea I'm def going to dial back on the AI for the time being then only use it when signs of symptoms appear no need to do the EOD protocol

As far as the test this is my first cycle and got the gear from a buddy of mine, so it appears to be underdosed a bit? Should I raise to 600mg/week? Or just let it ride?

It may be a bit underdosed but it also just may be how your body metabolizes that much gear. Even more importantly is when you got your blood drawn? How long after your last pin did you get it done? If this your first cycle just go with what you're doing. You should get some good gains as long as your diet and training are on point. Your PCT looks okay. But me personally I'd wait 4-6 weeks before I start PCT. 3 weeks for me isent enough for test E to fully clear out of my system. You really need to make sure that shit is out of your system. If you start PCT early you may not recover properly. Also did you get prebloods?

 

[BFRAU]

It may be a bit underdosed but it also just may be how your body metabolizes that much gear. Even more importantly is when you got your blood drawn? How long after your last pin did you get it done? If this your first cycle just go with what you're doing. You should get some good gains as long as your diet and training are on point. Your PCT looks okay. But me personally I'd wait 4-6 weeks before I start PCT. 3 weeks for me isent enough for test E to fully clear out of my system. You really need to make sure that shit is out of your system. If you start PCT early you may not recover properly. Also did you get prebloods?

Drew bloods 72hrs after last pin. My diet consist of 3500+ Daily calories mostly brown rice, oats, eggs, chicken, lean beef and veggies 40/40/20. Training has always been intense but smart not trying to get injured. Drew prebloods before I started so I have a baseline of what to expect when I'm "fully recovered". Will do some more reading on when to start my pct but I'll keep 4 weeks in mind. Thanks again dizzy.

 

[G2Ready]

***MESO Blood Work Testing Protocol***

^^^ that will help ya out with timing of bloods. The more consistent u are with timing, and keeping variables the same-- the more it will help u in the future

Don't know what "symptoms" u had-- but I'd drop the AI out completely especially with a total t of around 2G's

 

[BFRAU]

***MESO Blood Work Testing Protocol***

^^^ that will help ya out with timing of bloods. The more consistent u are with timing, and keeping variables the same-- the more it will help u in the future

Don't know what "symptoms" u had-- but I'd drop the AI out completely especially with a total t of around 2G's

Thanks for the reply will definitely read on appropriate timing for bloods and for sure dropping the AI for now thanks.

 

[Grandpa Gainz]

What symptoms were you getting that you added the AI? Since you dumped the d-bol at week 4, I wouldn't touch an AI until symptoms came back. Personally I don't think they will. I think it might have been the d-bol if anything at all.
But it sounds like u at least did your homework.

 

[BFRAU]

What symptoms were you getting that you added the AI? Since you dumped the d-bol at week 4, I wouldn't touch an AI until symptoms came back. Personally I don't think they will. I think it might have been the d-bol if anything at all.
But it sounds like u at least did your homework.

Some symptoms I had was some noticeable water retention and sore nips. I have laid off the AI since mid bloods and boom feeling a lot better! I had real bad achy joints especially in my knees and felt lethargic most of the time but now the achiness and tired feeling are going away. what would you suggest I should do in case of water retention and sore nips? Drink more water and Nolva 10mg/ed? I've done some reading and there's people that take Nolva ED to prevent gyno.

 

[Grandpa Gainz]

The truth I would get blood work again to make sure its high. But with how low it is now and 2200 test no d-bol! I bet you're ok but everyone's diff. I don't want u to get tits because of me so if symptoms come back do bloods and you know for sure!

 

[BFRAU]

The truth I would get blood work again to make sure its high. But with how low it is now and 2200 test no d-bol! I bet you're ok but everyone's diff. I don't want u to get tits because of me so if symptoms come back do bloods and you know for sure!

I appreciate the reply and advice! Thanks

 

[Gabuddy494]

What is the brand of aromasin you are using?? I'm looking for some but can't find pharma

 

[BFRAU]

What is the brand of aromasin you are using?? I'm looking for some but can't find pharma

Aromasin is not pharma it's suspended in everclear

 

[Jeffg353]

Aromasin is not pharma it's suspended in everclear

Since u mentioned it's in suspension...do u need to shake it to make sure it's evenly distributed? Just a thought, could be overdosing on it? As I'm sure ur aware the achy joints and lethargy were from the low E2. If it ever happens again can use HCG to get spike in test n then conversion to raise E2. You can try the nolvadex if symptoms return or can try switching to the adex.

SERMS- These block certain estrogen receptors, specifically breast tissue/receptors associated with gyno and dont actually lower estrogen in the blood.

There are 2 types of AI's. Type I - Steroidal (suicide inhibitor) - Aromasin/Exemestane attaches to the aromatase enzyme and permanently disables it.

Type II - nonsteroidal - compete for the enzyme, but dont destroy it (Adex/anastrozole n letro). Both are effective at lowering estrogen substantially, particularly Letro.

 

[BFRAU]

Thanks for the feedback, I'm currently at 12 weeks of my cycle (debating whether I should do 15 weeks). I eased off the aromasin and only used it when symptoms appeared and have had no issues. Saving the nolva for pct and I do have adex but I figure this late in the game I'm going to save it for the future.

 

[DrankSlangin]

These AIs are strong, just have to get it dialed in. My estrogen went from 55 to 8 in 4 weeks with only half an adex added weekly. Also you should donate blood soon, your hematocrit is getting up there