Mid cycle bloodwork Pharmacom Pharma Mix 1

[P_Dano]

I had blood drawn middle of week 7 approximately 55 hours post injection. Dosing has been 1 ml bi-weekly with injections Monday AMs and Thursday PMs. Composition of mix is advertised as
per bi weekly inj weekly total
test ph 50 test ph 100
test cyp 200 test cyp 400
Bold und 200 bold und 400
weeks 3 and 4 I took .5 mg of adex 3 times per week.
weeks 5 - 7 I took 1 mg adex 3 times per week.
I purchased the pharma mix 1 both from the original US Domestic promotion and the International website. I am not convinced the ingredients are the same between the 2 purchases. The US Domestic vials appear to have a heavier and darker oil as compared to the vials bought international. The US Domestic vials are marked on the bottom with the numeral 1 from a black sharpie. The international vials have label precisely applied with a quality test sticker the domestic vials are not so precise and there is not a quality check sticker. I believe the reason for the differences in the vials a described in the basicstero thread under steroid underground. There is no explanation for the differences in the product.

I have only ran the US Domestic product during this cycle.

 

[Bighead101]

I can't download the attachments

 

[P_Dano]

I will post as text

Pre-cycle labs
Test Name Result Flag Reference Range Lab
CBC With Differential/Platelet
WBC 6.8 3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL 01
RBC 4.72 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL 01
Hemoglobin 14.5 12.6-17.7 g/dL 01
Hematocrit 42.9 37.5-51.0 % 01
MCV 91 79-97 fL 01
MCH 30.7 26.6-33.0 pg 01
MCHC 33.8 31.5-35.7 g/dL 01
RDW 12.9 12.3-15.4 % 01
Platelets 255 150-379 x10E3/uL 01
Neutrophils 59 % 01
Lymphs 33 % 01
Monocytes 6 % 01
Eos 1 % 01
Basos 1 % 01
Neutrophils (Absolute) 4.0 1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL 01
Lymphs (Absolute) 2.2 0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL 01
Monocytes(Absolute) 0.4 0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL 01
Eos (Absolute) 0.1 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL 01
Baso (Absolute) 0.0 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL 01
Immature Granulocytes 0 % 01
Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL 01
Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum 105 HIGH 65-99 mg/dL 01
BUN 14 6-24 mg/dL 01
Creatinine, Serum 0.91 0.76-1.27 mg/dL 01
eGFR If NonAfricn Am 93 >59 mL/min/1.73 01
eGFR If Africn Am 107 >59 mL/min/1.73 01
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 15 9-20 01
Sodium, Serum 141 134-144 mmol/L 01
Potassium, Serum 4.3 3.5-5.2 mmol/L 01
Chloride, Serum 102 97-108 mmol/L 01
Carbon Dioxide, Total 24 18-29 mmol/L 01
Calcium, Serum 9.4 8.7-10.2 mg/dL 01
Protein, Total, Serum 6.7 6.0-8.5 g/dL 01
Albumin, Serum 4.6 3.5-5.5 g/dL 01
Globulin, Total 2.1 1.5-4.5 g/dL 01
A/G Ratio 2.2 1.1-2.5 01
Bilirubin, Total 0.7 0.0-1.2 mg/dL 01
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 80 39-117 IU/L 01
AST (SGOT) 16 0-40 IU/L 01
ALT (SGPT) 18 0-44 IU/L 01
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum 354 348-1197 ng/dL 01
Comment: Comment 01
Adult male reference interval is based on a population of lean males
up to 40 years old.
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH 3.9 1.7-8.6 mIU/mL 01
FSH, Serum
FSH 10.3 1.5-12.4 mIU/mL 01
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Estradiol
Estradiol 40.1 7.6-42.6 pg/mL 01
Roche ECLIA methodology
Performing

 

[P_Dano]

mid cycle bloodwork
COMPREHENSIVE METABOLIC PANEL
GLUCOSE 90 65-99 mg/dL 01
Fasting reference interval
UREA NITROGEN (BUN) 13 7-25 mg/dL 01
CREATININE 1.07 0.70-1.33 mg/dL 01.
eGFR NON-AFR. AMERICAN 76 > OR = 60 mL/min/1.73m2 01
eGFR AFRICAN AMERICAN 88 > OR = 60 mL/min/1.73m2 01
BUN/CREATININE RATIO NOT APPLICABLE 6-22 (calc) 01
SODIUM 140 135-146 mmol/L 01
POTASSIUM 4.5 3.5-5.3 mmol/L 01
CHLORIDE 103 98-110 mmol/L 01
CARBON DIOXIDE 25 19-30 mmol/L 01
CALCIUM 9.5 8.6-10.3 mg/dL 01
PROTEIN, TOTAL 6.6 6.1-8.1 g/dL 01
ALBUMIN 4.4 3.6-5.1 g/dL 01
GLOBULIN 2.2 1.9-3.7 g/dL (calc) 01
ALBUMIN/GLOBULIN RATIO 2.0 1.0-2.5 (calc) 01
BILIRUBIN, TOTAL 0.9 0.2-1.2 mg/dL 01
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE 52 40-115 U/L 01
AST 24 10-35 U/L 01
ALT 30 9-46 U/L 01
CBC (INCLUDES DIFF/PLT)
WHITE BLOOD CELL COUNT 7.4 3.8-10.8 Thousand/uL 01
RED BLOOD CELL COUNT 5.01 4.20-5.80 Million/uL 01
HEMOGLOBIN 15.4 13.2-17.1 g/dL 01
HEMATOCRIT 46.8 38.5-50.0 % 01
MCV 93.6 80.0-100.0 fL 01
MCH 30.8 27.0-33.0 pg 01
MCHC 33.0 32.0-36.0 g/dL 01
RDW 13.9 11.0-15.0 % 01
PLATELET COUNT 259 140-400 Thousand/uL 01
MPV 8.9 7.5-11.5 fL 01
ABSOLUTE NEUTROPHILS 4277 1500-7800 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE BAND NEUTROPHILS DNR 0-750 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE METAMYELOCYTES DNR 0 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE MYELOCYTES DNR 0 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE PROMYELOCYTES DNR 0 cells/uL 01
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ABSOLUTE LYMPHOCYTES 2316 850-3900 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE MONOCYTES 651 200-950 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE EOSINOPHILS 104 15-500 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE BASOPHILS 52 0-200 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE BLASTS DNR 0 cells/uL 01
ABSOLUTE NUCLEATED RBC DNR 0 cells/uL 01
NEUTROPHILS 57.8 % 01
BAND NEUTROPHILS DNR % 01
METAMYELOCYTES DNR % 01
MYELOCYTES DNR % 01
PROMYELOCYTES DNR % 01
LYMPHOCYTES 31.3 % 01
REACTIVE LYMPHOCYTES DNR 0-10 % 01
MONOCYTES 8.8 % 01
EOSINOPHILS 1.4 % 01
BASOPHILS 0.7 % 01
BLASTS DNR % 01
NUCLEATED RBC DNR 0 /100 WBC 01
COMMENT(S) DNR 01
FSH
FSH <0.7 LOW 1.6-8.0 mIU/mL 01
LH
LH <0.2 LOW 1.5-9.3 mIU/mL 01
ESTRADIOL
ESTRADIOL 19 < OR = 39 pg/mL 01
(order code 30289).
TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, LC/MS/MS
TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, LC/MS/MS 2203 HIGH 250-1100 ng/dL 02

 

[P_Dano]

This is my first cycle. Judging from other threads i would believe that test levels are disappointing. I also was looking for a greater raise in RBC or HEMATOCRIT

 

[kaizoku]

So you're on 500mg test/wk and your levels came back just over 2000?

Yeah, that's VERY disappointing.

 

[Colt44]

Yeah that seems low. How much test were you pinning per week? Looks like 500 but hard to tell in your post.

 

[P_Dano]

I see the spaces were compacted making totals barely readable.

Weekly total
test ph 100
test cyp 400
bold 400



split between 2 pins per week. I was following the testing protocol I seen in another thread which required 48h + or - 12 between pin and draw. I see another thread where it says blood should be drawn between 12 and 36 hours

 

[Tren Warrior]

Pharmacom seems really to be hit or miss...

 

[zthrill]

You're pinning 500mg a week and got your bloods done at 55 hours post injection. The test ph is probably fairly close to being at its lowest point and the test cyp is probably getting there as well. Pretty sure recommended time for test E and C is 36-48 hours. I don't believe the levels are low but not high either.

 

[Mr.B66]

My question is how is it working for you??? Strength,size ,libido ,appetite, hardness and vascularity!! I know its a little early for the eq to really start doing its thing but im thinking you should be seeing something.

 

[P_Dano]

Strength has been steadily up the whole cycle. I have gained 22 lbs since starting the cycle and not all of it is lean mass, I upped the adex thinking I was holding too much water and I see that I may have increased it too much as estradiol is now at 19. I naturally have a large appetite and that has increased but I do not need much encouragement to go off diet. Vascularity is up but not dramatically. Libido is through the roof but a little more controlled since I upped the adex.

 

[Oregongearhead]

Your first cycle and your doing EQ and test prop and test-e ? Why ? Didnt you research your first cycle ? 500mg test cyp or e only first cycle .
EQ first cycle=

 

[P_Dano]

Actually I did research it and seen where test cyp or test e are recommended by some for a first cycle. Other research indicated that moderate amounts EQ or Boli added to a beginners cycle can help protect joints and tendons with low sides. I am older and elected to err of protecting joints and tendons vs maybe complicating the side effect profile. I patterned the cycle off of a bread and butter cycle I found on thevipboard.

http://www.thevipboard.com/topic/5701-types-of-cycles/

 

[jon johnson]

So you're on 500mg test/wk and your levels came back just over 2000?

Yeah, that's VERY disappointing.

AGREED. VERY DISAPPOINTING RESULTS! Exact reason why I always stay away from expensive MIXES that seem to good to be true.

Total Test, RBC, Hematocrit, Hemoglobin should all be higher...I would up the EQ to 600-800mg's/ew and retest at week 10 or 11. EQ also tends to take a while to kick in effect on system.

Also get your blood draw first thing is the morning (when test levels are highest), and try to time it 36-48hrs after you last pin! THEN YOU'LL GET A MORE REALISTIC VIEW OF HOW IF ANY YOU GEAR IS UNDERDOSED...just my .02

 

[P_Dano]

Total Test, RBC, Hematocrit, Hemoglobin should all be higher...I would up the EQ to 600-800mg's/ew and retest at week 10 or 11. EQ also tends to take a while to kick in effect on system.

That was my first idea as I have EQ on hand but then I got to wondering if I am getting any EQ in the mix at all. If not it would make more sense to reduce the cycle to 10 weeks
running test e the rest of week 8, 9 and 10. I just cannot tell from labs if I have EQ in my system or not. I have also been measuring blood pressure and resting heart rate several times a week since starting the cycle to see if I might need to make a blood donation. Both have increased but only slightly.

 

[jon johnson]

Yea man - it's a tough call. One thing to remember is that EQ is a very weak steroid, and 400mg/wk is a pretty low dose imo (and yes even for unexperienced cyclers).

I'd end the cycle at 8-10 weeks, and do a quick 4 week pct., regroup and hop back on another cycle like 5-6 weeks later of better gear, or same stuff higher doses...since this cycle is looking kinda bust.

On a side note - I will never run EQ again lower than 600mg/ew...which I feel is still only a low- moderate dose, especially when combining it only with test for a cycle.

Next cycle I'm dosing my pharmacom EQ at 1200mg/ew...so even if a lil bit underdosed I can hopefully get close to 1g/wk...

 

[ronin17]

Yea man - it's a tough call. One thing to remember is that EQ is a very weak steroid, and 400mg/wk is a pretty low dose imo (and yes even for unexperienced cyclers).

I'd end the cycle at 8-10 weeks, and do a quick 4 week pct., regroup and hop back on another cycle like 5-6 weeks later of better gear, or same stuff higher doses...since this cycle is looking kinda bust.

On a side note - I will never run EQ again lower than 600mg/ew...which I feel is still only a low- moderate dose, especially when combining it only with test for a cycle.

Next cycle I'm dosing my pharmacom EQ at 1200mg/ew...so even if a lil bit underdosed I can hopefully get close to 1g/wk...

Why do you say eq is a weak steroid?

 

[Mr. Deltoid]

Im not a fan of blends. But OGH is right you should only run 500 mg test e or c for first cycle definitely not some blend. 400 mg of eq isn't going to to much imo.

 

[bullets69]

Why do you say eq is a weak steroid?

For an equal dose eq is definitey weaker than testosterone in term of muscle growth and a bit weaker than deca too.