Mid cycle bloodwork Pharmacom test E 300

[Bender83]

Currently in week 9
Cycle went like this so far:
Raloxifene 60mg ed from pharmacist. Been on since may (looking to help with small gyno flare last cycle)
Aromasin 12.5mg ed from pharmacist.
Weeks 1-4 500mg/week test e from 24k (yes I know the title says pharmacom, stay with me here)
Weeks 1-3 100mg/week test p from accusource (from reddit, closed up. I have ran it before, its legit)
Weeks 5-9 500mg/week test e from pharmacom (basicstero)

I started the cycle with test E from 24k, noticed that I had much more pip than expected (was mixed w/ prop so I figured it was that). So for a couple pins, I put the enanthate and prop in their own pin and used different areas. The prop alone was less painful than either enanthate alone or the two mixed together. I dealt with the 24k test e for the first 4 weeks before swapping to pharmacom

Bloods were done last week (week 8 of cycle ) about 43 hrs after last pin

Pre cycle bloods were done, but I would have to take a pic with phone and transfer/edit, and I'm lazy so I will just type the numbers of importance:

Total cholesterol: 140
HDL: 42
Triglycerides: 56
LDL: 87
Glucose: 81
Creatinine: 1.27
Testosterone Total: 770
Estradiol: 30​

Doctor didn't order liver test for some damn reason. Last time off cycle they were in the 20's
Natural test is 770 because of the raloxifene (it is usually low 500), and I would suspect that the estradiol is 30 because my testosterone is elevated by the ralox. (last off cycle bloods showed e2 in the mid/low 20's)

 

[Newbophobia]

Thanks for sharing dude that is definitely a respectable test number. Have you noticed any negatives or positives from switching from 24k's test to pcoms?

 

[Bender83]

I was surprised as shit at the #'s I got. Previous bloodwork put me at about a 6.5x responder to testosterone, and now here I am damn close to 10x lol.

The only real thing that I can comment on from the switch to pharmacom is that there is much less pip with their test E than with 24k's. Still more pip than I would like, especially since I'm shooting less than 1ml each time and its test E but whatever. Right now I think that is because my body does not respond well to enanthate ester.
Since I kickstarted with prop and only ran 24k test for 4 weeks, It would be impossible for me to say if I'm getting more "gains" with pharmacom.

Also I will add that I gave my 24k test away to a friend of mine and he is running it now, and says he has had NO issues with pip.

 

[AlphaLife]

Thanks for posting bloods. Good numbers. When did you buy the pcom enth?

 

[Bender83]

Thanks for posting bloods. Good numbers. When did you buy the pcom enth?

Early this year sometime. We put in a pretty decent order when they were running one of their big ass sales, like 40% off or something like that.

 

[Sir PinAlot]

Are you a vegan? Your cholesterol is really low.

 

[Bender83]

Are you a vegan? Your cholesterol is really low.

Nope.

 

[MoneyShot]

Interesting man - I was running 600mg/wk from pcom and my test was 2633 (I've got a thread on here with all the info), I've heard a lot higher numbers than what mine was so far...

 

[Bender83]

Interesting man - I was running 600mg/wk from pcom and my test was 2633 (I've got a thread on here with all the info), I've heard a lot higher numbers than what mine was so far...

Have you done any other bloodwork before? Any idea what 500-600mg of test normally puts you at?

I would have been completely happy with 3400 TT again, so I'm pleased. Biggest thing IMO is if you are making gains. I felt much better and got more gains with my first cycle, but being my first time, I expected that.

 

[MoneyShot]

Have you done any other bloodwork before? Any idea what 500-600mg of test normally puts you at?

I would have been completely happy with 3400 TT again, so I'm pleased. Biggest thing IMO is if you are making gains. I felt much better and got more gains with my first cycle, but being my first time, I expected that.

First cycle, so I did pre cycle bloods (504), never done test before, so I don't have a a benchmark for my personal response. Just seems like everyone else was higher than me by 1000+ in most cases

Gains were good, but obviously I'd want a little more if I could squeeze it out lol

 

[Bender83]

First cycle, so I did pre cycle bloods (504), never done test before, so I don't have a a benchmark for my personal response. Just seems like everyone else was higher than me by 1000+ in most cases

Gains were good, but obviously I'd want a little more if I could squeeze it out lol

Yea, I hear you on that. 2600 does seem a little low. Maybe that is how you respond to test, maybe not. Good thing is that you were/are making gains. Sometimes I think we can get caught up in chasing a number. Personally, I don't care if I am a 5x responder, or a 10x responder. I'd just like it to be consistent each time.

 

[Kel995]

I think

Yea, I hear you on that. 2600 does seem a little low. Maybe that is how you respond to test, maybe not. Good thing is that you were/are making gains. Sometimes I think we can get caught up in chasing a number. Personally, I don't care if I am a 5x responder, or a 10x responder. I'd just like it to be consistent each time.

our bodies consistently respond, I think it's the actual dosage contained in the test that varies.

 

[Bender83]

I think

our bodies consistently respond, I think it's the actual dosage contained in the test that varies.

I am assuming that you mean that any given person will respond consistently to testosterone and that the varying numbers that person may see on his own bloodwork is due to under dosed or over dosed test. That I agree with. That is also what I meant when I said that I don't care if I am a 5x responder or a 10x responder, I just want consistency. I've ran two long ester test only cycles so far, my first was test c at 500mg/week and I got 3400ng/dl and this one test e at the same dose got me 4600. Was the first cycles test under dosed? Was the second cycles test over dosed? I'll never know.

If you're saying that you think that people in general will all respond similarly to a given testosterone dose, that I personally don't believe.

I wish I could get my hands on some true pharmacy grade testosterone so I could get an accurate gauge for how my body responds to xxx mg dose. I don't see that happening anytime soon because I don't qualify for TRT yet, and I would be skeptical of anything that I don't pick up myself at my local pharmacy.

 

[Kel995]

I can tell in a sense by how much Aromasin I have been needing lately after swapping labs.