Mild muscle relaxers effect on training

[K1ngufk1ngs]

Curious if anyone here knows or has a good source on info about the effects muscle relaxers have on training. I ask because I recently developed bad carpal tunnel and surgery may be an option but it's so soon and a big procedure for me right now to have to take time for.
I have a mild cyclobenzoprine script and I have taken it a few times but still have plenty more than I have even thought about taking. I may have had 6 total over the course of about 3 to 4 weeks. I do notice it make my arm less prone to the effects of ct but am curious on any deterious effects it can cause or growth hindrance. Strength is hard to judge for me it's effect because the ct has already cause some limitations to my lifts in just that when your arm goes knumb you may not want 300lbs over you lol. I do still use straps for deads which works but I'm disappointed lol I was pulling 450 for reps.no straps normal grip right before the ct.

 

[JesterBOB]

I know that muscle relaxants help well with excessive muscle hypertonicity, pinched nerve endings and overload of the central nervous system. I have no experience with your issue.

 

[EnhancedChimpTBK]

I don't have a good source of information but I did experiment with it to help with what I believed to be CNS related issue after intense workouts. When I first starting lifting I was shaking very aggressively to the point where I couldn't drive my stick shift home lol.

I would speak to a doc but they tend to over prescribe meds without worrying about the side effects. Pharmacist tend to know a bit more about that stuff so I always talk with them before starting a new medication. And I research everything myself as I don't trust physicians blindly anymore.

I know I'm not helping you much but personally I didn't get any side effects and if it's short term I don't see how it would be an issue. But I wouldn't rely on it long term. And this is just my experience with short term use I know nothing about the long term side effects and interactions with other medecines.

Good luck with the ct... I think the hardest part of weightlifting is doing it consistently while dealing with injuries and health issues.

 

[JesterBOB]

The problem of central nervous system overload is one of the most difficult and sometimes it is a big stopper for the development of the result. As a rule, it is not physical fatigue that limits the result more, but the fatigue of the nervous system.

 

[Type-IIx]

Flexeril primarily acts at the brain stem to reduce tonic somatic motor activity, influencing both gamma and alpha motor neurons. So it'll reduce muscular strength (i.e., reduced neural drive) & coordination (inter- & intra- muscular) again affecting strength mostly (dynamic compound exercises with high rate of force development affected > concentric isolation exercises with low RFD).

 

[JesterBOB]

Flexeril primarily acts at the brain stem to reduce tonic somatic motor activity, influencing both gamma and alpha motor neurons. So it'll reduce muscular strength (i.e., reduced neural drive) & coordination (inter- & intra- muscular) again affecting strength mostly (dynamic compound exercises with high rate of force development affected > concentric isolation exercises with low RFD).

Didn't know that effect, thanks for the info.

 

[EnhancedChimpTBK]

Flexeril primarily acts at the brain stem to reduce tonic somatic motor activity, influencing both gamma and alpha motor neurons. So it'll reduce muscular strength (i.e., reduced neural drive) & coordination (inter- & intra- muscular) again affecting strength mostly (dynamic compound exercises with high rate of force development affected > concentric isolation exercises with low RFD).

Are we talking long term or short term also? I ask because you seem to know quite a bit about this subject and it's a drug that helped me a few times post workout...

 

[M@NU]

to be honest, i would not worry too much about it.
Tons of amateurs and pros take benzos for example to help them sleep or for anxienty.
if it really had an impactful effect i would assume they would stay away from it

 

[Type-IIx]

Are we talking long term or short term also? I ask because you seem to know quite a bit about this subject and it's a drug that helped me a few times post workout...

Definitely just short-term (as in try to avoid using before training). I can see that they'd help with muscle tension post-training. I've often thought about trying them myself to alleviate this, but, they can be reinforcing, and a stiff drink is sufficient for this effect if absolutely necessary.

 

[Type-IIx]

to be honest, i would not worry too much about it.
Tons of amateurs and pros take benzos for example to help them sleep or for anxienty.
if it really had an impactful effect i would assume they would stay away from it

Top notch advice, bring up benzos - only one more drug class (opioids) to complete the so-called "Holy Trinity" (opioids, muscle relaxers, benzos) that American pill mills used to prescribe.

In the 1990s, bodybuilders were abusing Nubain (nalbuphine) an opioid agonist/antagonist & GHB (the "date rape drug"). The former was touted for increasing GnRH pulse frequency to promote HPG axis recovery & the latter GH pulse mass. Many of these users would continue on to oxy/hydrocodone and fentanyl.

I still get guys that are hooked on kratom (nasty shit) years after their big push on the boards to bodybuilders. They never stopped using.

My point being that the exception (i.e., bodybuilders resilient against addiction) proves the rule. Bodybuilders as a population are addiction-prone risktakers.

 

[M@NU]

Top notch advice, bring up benzos - only one more drug class (opioids) to complete the so-called "Holy Trinity" (opioids, muscle relaxers, benzos) that American pill mills used to prescribe.

In the 1990s, bodybuilders were abusing Nubain (nalbuphine) an opioid agonist/antagonist & GHB (the "date rape drug"). The former was touted for increasing GnRH pulse frequency to promote HPG axis recovery & the latter GH pulse mass. Many of these users would continue on to oxy/hydrocodone and fentanyl.

I still get guys that are hooked on kratom (nasty shit) years after their big push on the boards to bodybuilders. They never stopped using.

My point being that the exception (i.e., bodybuilders resilient against addiction) proves the rule. Bodybuilders as a population are addiction-prone risktakers.

where did i give any advice?
dont twist my words please. i Always respected your posts but now you are going to far by interpreting too much into others post and making them look bad.
Nowhere did i state that anyone should take benzos.
i said that, in terms of hindering hypertrophy, i would not sweat it since amateurs and pros have them in their arsenal and use them frequently.
No advise given.

 

[Type-IIx]

where did i give any advice?
dont twist my words please. i Always respected your posts but now you are going to far by interpreting too much into others post and making them look bad.
Nowhere did i state that anyone should take benzos.
i said that, in terms of hindering hypertrophy, i would not sweat it since amateurs and pros have them in their arsenal and use them frequently.
No advise given.

I give less than a shite what you think about my posts... Your advice was not to worry about using Flexeril because you know bodybuilders that pop benzos. Insodoing, you raised an even more problematic drug class that has a potentiating effect on the one at hand. The last thing OP needs is to know what "pros" are doing, as most end up in an early grave. As always, exceptions prove the rule; and some people succeed (at least for a time) in spite of what they're doing rather than because of it.

 

[MFAAS]

Cyclo Or any muscle relaxer, benzo, opioidz will all cause you ti be temporarily weaker and possibly uncoordinated especially under heavy load. You could potentially drop something or use bad form without realizing it and injure yourself. IMO make sure you have a spotter for your lifts.

If you're on cycle then reducing your dose could help. Drink plenty of water try wearing wrist braces at night especially...

 

[M@NU]

I give less than a shite what you think about my posts... Your advice was not to worry about using Flexeril because you know bodybuilders that pop benzos. Insodoing, you raised an even more problematic drug class that has a potentiating effect on the one at hand. The last thing OP needs is to know what "pros" are doing, as most end up in an early grave. As always, exceptions prove the rule; and some people succeed (at least for a time) in spite of what they're doing rather than because of it.

yeah, good to see your real character.
It seems you can not even see the difference between giving an advice and stating an opinion.
Next time you make a scientific post about any steroid or hgh i will come in and shout how dare you advise people to start taking roids/hgh because it will lead to an early grave.

 

[JesterBOB]

Definitely just short-term (as in try to avoid using before training). I can see that they'd help with muscle tension post-training. I've often thought about trying them myself to alleviate this, but, they can be reinforcing, and a stiff drink is sufficient for this effect if absolutely necessary.

How do you know when it's absolutely necessary?

 

[Type-IIx]

How do you know when it's absolutely necessary?

Strictly, never. Though it can be of benefit when you have to be productive on your feet but can barely walk after a heavy legs day due to excessive muscle contractility or even cramping (don't operate heavy equipment on muscle relaxers).

 

[GuerillaPete]

yeah, good to see your real character.
It seems you can not even see the difference between giving an advice and stating an opinion.
Next time you make a scientific post about any steroid or hgh i will come in and shout how dare you advise people to start taking roids/hgh because it will lead to an early grave.

High Estrogen more than likely.

 

[JesterBOB]

Strictly, never. Though it can be of benefit when you have to be productive on your feet but can barely walk after a heavy legs day due to excessive muscle contractility or even cramping (don't operate heavy equipment on muscle relaxers).

Thanks for the advice. In general, I already understood from your answers that it is better not to apply.

 

[Inspired]

Curious if anyone here knows or has a good source on info about the effects muscle relaxers have on training. I ask because I recently developed bad carpal tunnel and surgery may be an option but it's so soon and a big procedure for me right now to have to take time for.
I have a mild cyclobenzoprine script and I have taken it a few times but still have plenty more than I have even thought about taking. I may have had 6 total over the course of about 3 to 4 weeks. I do notice it make my arm less prone to the effects of ct but am curious on any deterious effects it can cause or growth hindrance. Strength is hard to judge for me it's effect because the ct has already cause some limitations to my lifts in just that when your arm goes knumb you may not want 300lbs over you lol. I do still use straps for deads which works but I'm disappointed lol I was pulling 450 for reps.no straps normal grip right before the ct.

The biggest thing is that anything relaxes muscles can relax motivation. Meaning, muscle relaxers can make you lazy and less likely to stay consistent with your workouts.

If you have a solid training schedule, and you're confident you will stay disciplined, then you can try to take the muscle relaxer. But what you should be doing is resting, correcting bad habits, using anti inflammatories, and perhaps you can correct the carpal tunnel. I wouldn't have surgery unless you're just desperate. I've seen carpal tunnel resolve. It often resolves when you correct a bad habit (you may not even know what you're doing wrong. Often, it's subtle. Sometimes wearing a watch, or using your arm just a millimeter differently can make carpal tunnel happen).

The muscle relaxer can work both ways: it could help you push through in a way that actually helps you correct the problem. Oppositely, the muscle relaxer could make you do too much.

 

[JesterBOB]

The biggest thing is that anything relaxes muscles can relax motivation. Meaning, muscle relaxers can make you lazy and less likely to stay consistent with your workouts.

If you have a solid training schedule, and you're confident you will stay disciplined, then you can try to take the muscle relaxer. But what you should be doing is resting, correcting bad habits, using anti inflammatories, and perhaps you can correct the carpal tunnel. I wouldn't have surgery unless you're just desperate. I've seen carpal tunnel resolve. It often resolves when you correct a bad habit (you may not even know what you're doing wrong. Often, it's subtle. Sometimes wearing a watch, or using your arm just a millimeter differently can make carpal tunnel happen).

The muscle relaxer can work both ways: it could help you push through in a way that actually helps you correct the problem. Oppositely, the muscle relaxer could make you do too much.

I myself also noticed when I took muscle relaxants that my head began to work differently. more sleepy and no desire to move.