mk677 stronger than hgh?

MK677 is diabetes in pill form. Because it raises your GH level permanently.


Just use Tesamorelin+Ipamorelin or GH. The only reason why i would EVER use MK677 is if im on a bulk, im already taking GH so my natural production is tanked (i wont get diabetes from MK-677) and i cant get any food in, so im taking it to get hungry.

Big dosage of GH before bed=> big GH spike=> raises anabolic Igf-1=> tankes your natural release. No GH level the hole time, you dont get diabetes

MK677=> results in GH bleed the whole time=> you get bloated like a ballon=> you die from diabetes
 
I've been having the same problem after a month of use; I feel eye pressure, it seems to be in the back of my eye, often the left one. I thought it was the CJC with DAC, but it must be the MK677 then.

After this discovery, did you stop using it? What warnings did they give you about this side effect?
Tough to beat direct HGH use, such as that from K4L (<= $1/IU, where 1 IU/d is about equal to HGH production in normal elderly). And that eliminated all the side effects we encountered with MK677, CJC w/ DAC, etc.
 
MK677 is diabetes in pill form. Because it raises your GH level permanently.


Just use Tesamorelin+Ipamorelin or GH. The only reason why i would EVER use MK677 is if im on a bulk, im already taking GH so my natural production is tanked (i wont get diabetes from MK-677) and i cant get any food in, so im taking it to get hungry.

Big dosage of GH before bed=> big GH spike=> raises anabolic Igf-1=> tankes your natural release. No GH level the hole time, you dont get diabetes

MK677=> results in GH bleed the whole time=> you get bloated like a ballon=> you die from diabetes
I check my blood sugar levels daily: if I'm over 100, I take a break. 2 tbs. ACV before bed and SLU-PP-332 (this one has the greatest effect for sure) keep my levels around 90
 
I check my blood sugar levels daily: if I'm over 100, I take a break. 2 tbs. ACV before bed and SLU-PP-332 (this one has the greatest effect for sure) keep my levels around 90
ok but why MK-677?

1. of all i dint think that GH bleed is a good idea. Thats why im not using MK677 or CJC WITH DAC. GH i naturally realeased in pulses.
And its one thing to surpress your natural GH release with GH (which doesnt seem to have long term consequemves) and another thing to "raping" you pituitary glad 24/7 to release GH
=> i dont want to get a brain tumor from such a stimulation (mabye thats a little melodramatic but im just saying, thats definetly not good)

Tesamorelin while beeing a lot more expensive achieves the same igf-1 elevation (or even more) but with pulses.

2. pulsative GH release is A LOT more anabolic because systemic (indocrine) igf-1 meaning the igf-1 that we messure in bloodtests isnt anabolic. Autocrine igf-1 (im your cells) is anabolic. Actually higher levers of systemic igf even lower autocrine igf-1.
Which means that you can have a systemic igf-1 score of 300 on Tesamorelin and 400 on HGH and the 300 is still more anabolic. At some point this gets overridden at higher HGH dosages which is why systemic igf-1 doesnt tend to raise any more at dosages higher that 6IU but really anabolic bodybuildig dosages are around 10-15 IU. I have talked about this in other tgreads extensively.

=> so why would you "give up" the main anabolic advantages that peptides have over GH? AND combining it with a major disadvantage of GH: monotoring your bloodsugar.
(And yes on CJC with dac/MK-677 pulsative GH release isnt completely surpressed like on GH but on the other hand there is also a 24/7 GH release while if you take one dosage of GH per day your GH level is only elevated a couple of hours)

3. the bloating: GH generally causes some water rentention. So does Tesmorelin+Ipamorelin (my hands are swolen again). But MK677?? A completely different level. Thats due to the 24/7 GH release.
You feel terrible, ahedonia, your tendons hurt, you look like a puffer fish...
AND dont forget that its not just about bloodsugar. GH isnt anabolic. Igf-1 is. With MK677 GH is elevated all the time, which will also raise igf-1. However for the same reason it raises your glucose tolernace it may be problematic for anabolism in other ways, its a little more complicated.


So to sum this up, as long as you cant afford Tesmorelin+Ipamorelin or GH i really see no point why you woule choose an inferior option.

MK-677 can ne usefull in another way. If you take GH it wont MK677 wont release GH because of the surpression. HOWEVER it will still make you hungry. I "gave" therefore MK677 to somebody im coaching right now so he can eat more during his bulk
 
ok but why MK-677?

1. of all i dint think that GH bleed is a good idea. Thats why im not using MK677 or CJC WITH DAC. GH i naturally realeased in pulses.
And its one thing to surpress your natural GH release with GH (which doesnt seem to have long term consequemves) and another thing to "raping" you pituitary glad 24/7 to release GH
=> i dont want to get a brain tumor from such a stimulation (mabye thats a little melodramatic but im just saying, thats definetly not good)

Tesamorelin while beeing a lot more expensive achieves the same igf-1 elevation (or even more) but with pulses.

2. pulsative GH release is A LOT more anabolic because systemic (indocrine) igf-1 meaning the igf-1 that we messure in bloodtests isnt anabolic. Autocrine igf-1 (im your cells) is anabolic. Actually higher levers of systemic igf even lower autocrine igf-1.
Which means that you can have a systemic igf-1 score of 300 on Tesamorelin and 400 on HGH and the 300 is still more anabolic. At some point this gets overridden at higher HGH dosages which is why systemic igf-1 doesnt tend to raise any more at dosages higher that 6IU but really anabolic bodybuildig dosages are around 10-15 IU. I have talked about this in other tgreads extensively.

=> so why would you "give up" the main anabolic advantages that peptides have over GH? AND combining it with a major disadvantage of GH: monotoring your bloodsugar.
(And yes on CJC with dac/MK-677 pulsative GH release isnt completely surpressed like on GH but on the other hand there is also a 24/7 GH release while if you take one dosage of GH per day your GH level is only elevated a couple of hours)

3. the bloating: GH generally causes some water rentention. So does Tesmorelin+Ipamorelin (my hands are swolen again). But MK677?? A completely different level. Thats due to the 24/7 GH release.
You feel terrible, ahedonia, your tendons hurt, you look like a puffer fish...
AND dont forget that its not just about bloodsugar. GH isnt anabolic. Igf-1 is. With MK677 GH is elevated all the time, which will also raise igf-1. However for the same reason it raises your glucose tolernace it may be problematic for anabolism in other ways, its a little more complicated.


So to sum this up, as long as you cant afford Tesmorelin+Ipamorelin or GH i really see no point why you woule choose an inferior option.

MK-677 can ne usefull in another way. If you take GH it wont MK677 wont release GH because of the surpression. HOWEVER it will still make you hungry. I "gave" therefore MK677 to somebody im coaching right now so he can eat more during his bulk
Your post really got me thinking (in a good way). MK-677 was so attractive to me initially just because it's oral and I didn't want to pin. But that changed with SS-31 anyway. Thanks a lot, I'm going to look deeper into Tesamorelin, but just from a quick first glance, I agree-it looks superior to MK-677 in every way.
 

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