Motoprolol and blood pressure

[Inspired]

When you are back around hit me on this what is your recommended dosage of olive leaf and what form specifically for a semi-muscular 300lb guy. I also want to add that I just ran Bystolic for the first time for a month straight and it did about JACK SHIT with not beta stimulating drugs in play, and as a singular BP applied med for its intended purpose. I'm also fairly certain it is interfering with my heart rate in a bad way (chest pains). And for WHAT? 5 points...?!? Come on...

Further I really wonder if drugs like Metoprolol and Bystolic's primary function is a simply as attempting to slow heat rate as a primary method of action. So that's interesting in itself and makes you start to wonder the various means of "lowering blood pressure" via meds. And that flashes me back to a QUACK that once told me maybe I was one that needed a (Tirple cocktail of BP meds)... Which I now speculate to vary from a variety of aspects ranging from dilation of blood vessels, to interacting with sodium/potassium body electrical drivers at local levels, to working at the brain primarily to slow CNS activity (Metoprolol I suspect). TELL ME IF I AM OFF BASE IF THERE IS ANYONE LEFT AROUND HERE WITH A BRAIN...

But @Inspired - Hit me back on this thread on the olive stuff.. ALSO I wonder what the mechanism of action might be with olive leaf? Have you dug that deeply yet?

Olive leaf extract lowers blood pressure through many different mechanisms, including:

1. inhibiting ACE

2. blocking L-type Ca2+ channels

3. Possessing vasodilator activity by increasing nitric oxide bioavailability and having strong anti-oxidant properties.

I recommend a product standardized to around 20% Oleuropein, and I would take a dose of atleast 500mg, once in the morning and another 500mg once in the evening. You can also take it more frequently. You can take it 3 or 4 times a day. Whatever it takes to regulate your blood pressure.

Non standardized whole spectrum olive leaf extracts can be good too. Seagate makes a good one. For example, check out this PDF https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0039/8075/5033/files/townsend-letter-may.pdf?1431287334363094907

But since the studies usually focus on oleuropein, I would use a standardized extract with 20% oleuropein. I would also check out pomegranate extracts too.

 

[Badandy]

Try hctz. I average 130-144 on telemisartan80. 2 hours after first dose of hctz 12.5 mg and I average 110-126. No increase in urine out put noted