my 15 week cycle, any input is appreciated

[mr_meanor]

Week Supplement/ MG Supplement/ MG/ Week Supplement/ MG Supplement/ MG

1 Iranian Test 125 mg Primo 100 mg (satch's)

2 Iranian Test 125 mg Primo 100 mg

3 Iranian Test 250 mg Primo 200 mg

4 Iranian Test 250 mg Primo 200 mg

5 Iranian Test 250 mg Primo 200 mg

6 Iranian Test 250 mg Primo 300 mg Nolvadex/10MG/Day

7 Iranian Test 250 mg Primo 300 mg Nolvadex/10MG/Day
8 Winstrol 50 mg/EOD Primo 200 mg Nolvadex/10MG/Day
9 Winstrol 50 mg/EOD Primo 200 mg Nolvadex/10MG/Day
10 Winstrol 50 mg/EOD Primo 200 mg Nolvadex/ 10MG/Day
11 Winstrol 50 mg/EOD Nolvadex/ 10MG/Day
12 Nolvadex/ 10MG/Day
13 Nolvadex/ 10MG/Day
14 Nolvadex/ 10MG/Day


CLOMID THERAPY
Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7
Week 13 250 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
Week 14 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg
Week 15 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 25 mg 25 mg

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I will also be running t3 and clen at the end of my cycle and some more clen in PCT
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I am considering thorwing HCG in but am not sure how much I will need with this l ower dose cycle, also am I over doing it on the PCT since my doses are so low, I am a keeping the tests lowses low on purpouse so I will accept any advise except on that

thanks in advance for any advice you bro may have

Shot one was yesterday and it has been a fun 2 days at the gym

 

[Animalhouse]

hi mr meanor- can i ask why such low test doses do you have acne trouble or bloat excessively? I assume this is a cutting cycle

 

[mr_meanor]

hi mr meanor- can i ask why such low test doses do you have acne trouble or bloat excessively? I assume this is a cutting cycle

yes mainly because this is a cutting cycle and I want the test esters in their but keeping it low and at the begining so I can do more cutting hopefully

 

[VDC]

You've got it backwards,,,Start high in your dosing not low,,,Get the blood levels up then go a little lower and the esters will keep it level,,,I say do HCG during the cycle but thats up to you,,,at least do it for 2 weeks while the esters are clearing,,,Low dose or not the HPTA is shutdown the same as a high dose cycle,,,and this causes testicular atrophy,,,This is the main cause of a long recovery,,,Keep em ready and they'll go to work as quick as possible(When the HPTA starts secreting LH and FSH),,,More research is indicated,,,VDC

 

[MaxRep]

You must be joking?

You can't seriously be talking about doing a classic pyramid cycle straight out of the 1970's and '80's?

That's like saying you want to buy a hot new stereo system and are looking for feedback on the best... 8 Track.

There's a reason why pyramid cycles aren't done anymore by anyone with even a modicum of AAS knowledge. Roughly 12-15 years ago, accumulated knowledge, experience and Science came together and best use AAS protocols changed dramatically. Out with pyramids, in with front loading. The difference in gains was phenomenal.

Having said all that, there were some pretty big guys back in the '70's and '80's. But that doesn't mean it's a good idea to trade in your CD stereo system for an 8-Track.

MaxRep

P.S. I don't even want to talk about your dosages. With your test dosage being roughly a replacement dosage for your soon to be gone natural test production.

 

[mr_meanor]

this is also based on all the stuff I have, the pyramiding is mainly because thats exactly how much of each substance I have, I guess I will do the high doses week two and 3 and take vdc's advice

oh abd I scored some more test E so I will go to 500 mg for 4 weeks at the end

 

[mr_meanor]

bump for more input, hopefully no more mods will flame me

 

[MaxRep]

bump for more input, hopefully no more mods will flame me

That was a flame...? It's what I call Tough Love.

It's never a good idea to design a cycle around the amount of product you have. Design the cycle first, then save your money until you can buy what you need and do it right.

Good luck,
MaxRep

 

[Big Trav]

Yeah, at that low of a dose you'll be doing more harm than good...speaking from a purely "muscle gain" perspective. Keep what you got, save more money, get more stuff, and do a cycle the way you want, not based on what you have at the moment.

 

[VDC]

Do the High dose on week 1 and 2,,,but really Max and Big Trav are right,,,You need more aas,,,VDC

 

[mr_meanor]

That was a flame...? It's what I call Tough Love.

It's never a good idea to design a cycle around the amount of product you have. Design the cycle first, then save your money until you can buy what you need and do it right.

Good luck,
MaxRep

I was just joking bro I didn't take it as a flame I appreciate your input

as for the amount of aas I have, I have 19 amps of iranian test 250 left so I have plenty, my goal was to get a good 7 weeks of test in and then cut down, this may be a bad idea but that that was my motive

so should I up to 500 mg test for 7 weeks then primo and winny for the last 2?

I am already started week 1 and I just started off with a 125mg test E and 100 mg primo but that was only thursday and I have already hit the gym up hard today, sO I will shoot another 250 test e tomorrow and another 100 primo then shoot every monday from here out.

thoughts?

 

[Animalhouse]

I agree with Max-Vdc and Trav- if you are going to supress and compromise your hormonal axis you do it with maximum gain for minimum sides. this means as said design your cycle get the gear... the issue of testosterone and cutting- a large amount of test is not needed i cut up for the novices using 400mg of prop a week- with that in mind i would use a maximum 500mg of enanthate a week and really 250mg as a more sensible dose relying on less androgenic anabolics for the remaining anabolic support- lay the cycle out as follows-

week 1} monday 750mg of test 400mg of primo. friday 200mg of primo

weeks 2-10} 250mg test once per week 200mg primo twice weekly.

weeks 6-11} 50mg winstrol Eod

Hcg should be used each week 250-500iu twice weekly weeks 1-10

-To control bloat from testosterone 25-50mg of Proviron everyday with 20mg of nolvadex everyday is a wise choice- weeks 1-11 1/2.. or a small amount of anti-aromatose such as femera or anastrozole.

-The doses you mentioned at first would do little else but suppress you for not a great deal more than being natural- bare in mind primobolan really needs 400mg a week minimum

-start clomid 10 days after your last shot of primo- once you have loaded 300-400mg on the 1st day there is no need to use more than 50mg each day from then. i would advise 4-6 weeks of clomid