My body every time I workout:

[RzSco]

I feel like you're trolling but if not just stop pitying yourself already.

There are more economically challenging outcomes than being born in the UK my guy.

Your mental health seems off and higher doses could make you feel worse.

Supplementing T3 and T4 seems a more safe bet if you feel that your metabolism is weak.

Seems that fixing thyroid can improve some mental issues also.

I have a feeling though there's a limit on how much you can biohack yourself out of this without a change in mentality.

I could try T3 and T4 but these and TSH were fine on my recent blood work and I know they are catabolic hormones which is counter productive when I am already losing too much muscle on my cut.

I am going to try HGH in my next bulk/blast. If I was deficient it would explain a lot and it’s one of the things my blood test does not include. My recovery and sleep are not good despite being well scheduled I do not feel well rested at all.

I can’t biohack myself out of the shitty economic situation but I can at least try and achieve a decent physique which will enable to get girls and improve my mental state that way. Then once I got there I can hopefully maintain on less gym time and focus more time on trying to side hustle.

At the moment the only practical difference between me and a 300 lbs obese nerd is that I wasted tens of thousands of hours in the gym and ate restrictively for a decade or more. None of it matters as long as my physique is considered “mid” i will simply be swiped left in favour of the top 10% guys same as that 300 lbs obese guy.

 

[DoubleDeez]

None of it matters as long as my physique is considered “mid” i will simply be swiped left in favour of the top 10% guys same as that 300 lbs obese guy.

Swipe Culture is destroying your confidence and rotting you from the inside out. Get the fck off Tinder until you fix yourself. Actually even after you’ve put in the work, that place is a cesspool and once you respect yourself, you’ll find/meet women who aren’t as shallow and vapid as the users of that app.

 

[Bandern]

I would try a sport besides bodybuilding. Maybe therapy or mining Reddit gold

 

[Tdeck81]

 

[dinfar1337]

I can’t biohack myself out of the shitty economic situation but I can at least try and achieve a decent physique which will enable to get girls and improve my mental state that way.

you sound like a 15 year old boy.

find peace within yourself first before you chase greatness(physique, not girls)

 

[verylargeshoes]

I award u 50 victim tokens and a lifetime supply of bees. Use them wisely

 

[verylargeshoes]

you sound like a 15 year old boy.

find peace within yourself first before you chase greatness(physique, not girls)

He sounds like an incel.

There are a lot of women in the world. Even in the UK. If guys stopped competing and feeling entitled to the top 5% sexiest people on Tinder, they'd see that.

Dude, if you're in your 30's, your dating pool is not just women looking for the most looksmaxxed guys to drink shots off their six packs and have a one night stand with. It's women looking for useful, interesting partners for settling down with. Also probably some horny divorcees, but definitely a lot of the former. Whether or not you get your dream body, is there anything *else* about you worth talking about?

FWIW, "get girls" is a 13 year old's way of looking at it. Try to think about forging a meaningful relationship with an interesting, well-rounded human woman who shares some of your interests and ambitions and goals. Those people fuck the hardest.

 

[sionnach]

you sound like a 15 year old boy.

For real. The stunted growth here isn't muscle tissue.

Even if you frame it as a choice, you are not truly fixing the situation either way.

I should look like David Laid and have a few million net worth but I picked the wrong parents. That is the original wrong choice.

I am just being realistic in saying things take years or decades to achieve and I am in my 30s, I’m literally out of time. Men are supposed to peak in their 30s, but I am horribly average in every aspect despite grinding at everything.

Even being born in the UK I was already chopped from the start, how could I ever compete with Americans who out-earn me by factors of 3, 4 or 5 times for the same job? Even if I moved to America, how could I ever catch up to my same age peers when they already accumulated massive wealth during the time I had to grind experience and quals here in shithole UK?

I don't feel like you're gonna find what you need here, bruh. I think /fit/ or maybe even /pol/ might be more of what you're lookin for.

 

[Bandern]

One last thing

Women are intuitive creatures. They can smell the truth, they’re like fkn truffle pigs. If the truth is that you’re self loathing, superficial, and desperate, they know. Expect exactly 0 women to want to be with you until you get this sorted out.

 

[RzSco]

Dude, if you're in your 30's, your dating pool is not just women looking for the most looksmaxxed guys to drink shots off their six packs and have a one night stand with. It's women looking for useful, interesting partners for settling down with. Also probably some horny divorcees, but definitely a lot of the former. Whether or not you get your dream body, is there anything *else* about you worth talking about?

FWIW, "get girls" is a 13 year old's way of looking at it. Try to think about forging a meaningful relationship with an interesting, well-rounded human woman who shares some of your interests and ambitions and goals. Those people fuck the hardest.

Why would I want used up whores for a relationship. Females in their 30s are only good for pump and dump. It’s over for me ever having a relationship, that’s only for guys with good genetics who had everything going for them from the start.

For real. The stunted growth here isn't muscle tissue.


I don't feel like you're gonna find what you need here, bruh. I think /fit/ or maybe even /pol/ might be more of what you're lookin for.

We aren’t allowed 4chan in the UK. And yeah I am still trying to get past teenager problems in my 30s, “just forget about everything you missed out on and marry some used up whore and pay for her lifestyle bro”.

Swipe Culture is destroying your confidence and rotting you from the inside out. Get the fck off Tinder until you fix yourself. Actually even after you’ve put in the work, that place is a cesspool and once you respect yourself, you’ll find/meet women who aren’t as shallow and vapid as the users of that app.

All women use tinder they are just not stuck on it permanently unable to get laid for years like men.

 

[DoubleDeez]

One last thing

Women are intuitive creatures. They can smell the truth, they’re like fkn truffle pigs. If the truth is that you’re self loathing, superficial, and desperate, they know. Expect exactly 0 women to want to be with you until you get this sorted out.

Can confirm. That “woe is me” bullshit is insanely unattractive, low-T behavior.

Find a cool outdoorsy hobby to get absorbed in that takes your mind off your fixation on failure. Cheap dopamine via hookup apps isn’t doing you any favors. Get your hands dirty, build something. Become more interesting and you might find that the gains and the girls will follow.

 

[verylargeshoes]

Women are intuitive creatures. They can smell the truth, they’re like fkn truffle pigs. If the truth is that you’re self loathing, superficial, and desperate, they know. Expect exactly 0 women to want to be with you until you get this sorted out.

Ain't that the damned truth.

Except the 0 women part. It's 0 worthwhile women. There's a nonzero number of women who will latch on to insecure, desperate men like a lamprey and suck the life force out of them. (And similarly slimy men with insecure, desperate women, and all the combinations of genders you can think of really).

You can't afford to be mentally weak in this world. And I'm not talking about your bench PR. Man the fuck up or suffer the consequences.

 

[RzSco]

Can confirm. That “woe is me” bullshit is insanely unattractive, low-T behavior.

Find a cool outdoorsy hobby to get absorbed in that takes your mind off your fixation on failure. Cheap dopamine via hookup apps isn’t doing you any favors. Get your hands dirty, build something. Become more interesting and you might find that the gains and the girls will follow.

Bro I had tons of hobbies like that, they don’t give a shit about anything except looks and money. I dropped all my hobbies to focus on money and fitness grind. My mental health doesn’t matter, there was no point then and there is no point now! Your entire social worth is predicated on your ability to get women and how much money you earn. I wish I could just drop out of society but I don’t have money for that either.

 

[sionnach]

I wish I could just drop out of society but I don’t have money for that either.

Dropping out is 100% free of charge.

 

[RzSco]

Dropping out is 100% free of charge.

No, this man is on the street, he is still subject to society’s hierarchy as the lowest of the low. He has not escaped it.

 

[DoubleDeez]

Bro I had tons of hobbies like that, they don’t give a shit about anything except looks and money. I dropped all my hobbies to focus on money and fitness grind. My mental health doesn’t matter, there was no point then and there is no point now! Your entire social worth is predicated on your ability to get women and how much money you earn. I wish I could just drop out of society but I don’t have money for that either.

…of course looks and money are what the users of that app are after, it’s literally a culture dependent on shallow people making snap judgments after seeing a profile pic and maybe a short little bio. You know, @Bandern once thought I was out of his league, we knew each other for a year on Twitter before I vocalized my crush on him. He was fat but he was funny as fuck, and his wit won me over. The fact that he later got his shit together and got jacked a couple years into our relationship is a nice bonus, but I fell for the charm. He was interesting and not like the other dudes. We’re not all shallow pieces of shit, your mistake is using an app designed to make relationships disposable. A generation growing up with the mentality of “the next one is just a click away.” It’s destroying the men with already low self-esteem and gassing up the women who aren’t exactly high value. A good woman worth investing time in is not going to be found on there. Focus on bettering yourself and your mentality and delete that satanic app.

 

[verylargeshoes]

Dropping out is 100% free of charge.

Don't be so Cynical.

 

[Elektrobot]

This guy has a dozen people telling him to stop whining and buck up and he's still whining.

Sometimes the problem is obvious.

I am going to try HGH in my next bulk/blast.

Yes, the one and only reason you aren't getting fucked is because you didn't add HGH to your cycle......

A lack of drugs isn't your problem dude. Which means that more drugs isn't going to fix anything.

 

[dinfar1337]

i stopped paying attention after he went cringe.

muscle wont change your face. after i became abnormally large from steroids i've lost attention because im scaring women away.

but i dont care because i have big muscle hehe.

find something to distract yourself with like me, you shouldn't have time in life to get depressed like this.

if you truly wake up one day and are disgusted by yourself being fat you will lose that fat so fast

same applies to wanting to build muscle, getting women etc. everything in this life is trivial, and you truly dont want it enough if you cant achieve it. because you'll either die or do everything to achieve it without complaint

some people can't even get food in this world and you're complaining because you're a bitch? you have all the ressources in the world that you could need. you simply dont want it enough and are projecting your weakness to way too much people here.

we are disgusted by you. fix yourself

 

[Bandern]

He was interesting and not like the other dudes.

I’m not like the other boys (I farted in her dishwasher)