my cycle

[Walker]

Ive been off a D bol only cycle for about 3 months and im ready to jump to the next level.

Im looking for a little advice...this is my original plan as per some research ive done

50mg Dbol ED for 4 weeks
Test E 500mg EW pinning MON/THURS

PCT- Clomin 300mg day one and 50mgED after for 4 weeks 2 weeks after last test pin
nolva on hand in case

debating if I should throw in 75mg Tren ED into the cycle...Think it will be beneficial or will I see good gains with the Test E alone...obviously diet and regiment plays a good part...ive got that end covered.

going to get bloodwork done soon...will get mid and post done aswell...

 

[Burrr]

drop the dbol
drop the tren
use the nolva w/ the clomid for PCT

 

[Walker]

really, can you help me understand the dropping of the dbol?
the Tren is expensive ...lol np dropping that haha just thought the dbol would help see results while the test was taking time to kick in...

 

[blazinshotguns]

Keep the tren for a third cycle . Just do dbol and test

 

[Walker]

ok thx guys for the advice facking tren alone is the price of a test/dbol/clomin/nolva cycle...lol

 

[blazinshotguns]

What kind of tren is that expensive ?

 

[Walker]

at 75mg per shot per day id need 6 vials for a 10 week cycle...100mg per ml ...10ml vial...@$75 per vial from a domestic online source....i dont have the luxury of knowing a underground source and from what I could tell from my research you pin tren the whole time your pinning test...my entire test/tren/dbol/clomid/nolva cycle would run me $1000 for 10 weeks...minus the tren...$550

 

[alphastrength50]

75? damn bro ur fetting milked man

 

[blazinshotguns]

Look into Astro cut stack

 

[Walker]

im in Canada and have to resort to online for now as I can research quality and know im not gonna get bunk as per reviews...maybe one day someone on here might open up and let me in but im still too new for that I think.....time will tell...

 

[blazinshotguns]

What size needle would you use I can't imagine sticking a 25G needle in 7 times a week

 

[Walker]

from what i seen I was going to try and get 23 gauge 1.5 inch

 

[blazinshotguns]

from what i seen I was going to try and get 23 gauge 1.5 inch

why you using a bigger needle ? 1.5 inch is too long

I use a 25G 1 inch and I'm a fat ass

 

[Burrr]

why you using a bigger needle ? 1.5 inch is too long

I use a 25G 1 inch and I'm a fat ass

I prefer the 1.5 inch for glute pins, it's worked well for me.

 

[alphastrength50]

25g is awesome but a slin pin is even better. just backload it

 

[Burrr]

You could save a ton of cash just by dropping the tren and running a regular cycle.
That tren, besides being expensive, requires something for prolactin sides ( caber is expensive too), and is a sever shut down to the HPTA. You don't need the tren for awesome gains on your first real cycle, so why use it. Run the Test only, and see how well your HPTA rebounds.
Save that tren for cycle number 5, or 6...

 

[blazinshotguns]

25g is awesome but a slin pin is even better. just backload it

how do you use slin pins ? The tips don't come off

 

[Walker]

im new to pinning so have no idea really....i figured 23 gauge could draw from the vial and do the pinning? idk...you guys use dif pin tips for drawing and pinning?

 

[BIGMESC]

im new to pinning so have no idea really....i figured 23 gauge could draw from the vial and do the pinning? idk...you guys use dif pin tips for drawing and pinning?

Yep one pin to draw 23 is fine and one to inject I like 25g 1"
Just pop off the 23 and put on the 25.
That way you are not using a pin that has been dulled by being pushed through the stopper.

Or you can use a slin pin by pulling the plunger all the way out and using the 23 to fill it up from the back, then replacing the plunger just a little, tilt the barrel so the bubble rises to the pin end then push the rest of the way in.

 

[blazinshotguns]

Yep one pin to draw 23 is fine and one to inject I like 25g 1"
Just pop off the 23 and put on the 25.
That way you are not using a pin that has been dulled by being pushed through the stopper.

Or you can use a slin pin by pulling the plunger all the way out and using the 23 to fill it up from the back, then replacing the plunger just a little, tilt the barrel so the bubble rises to the pin end then push the rest of the way in.

A video would help a lot