My first cycle

[Swim strong]

Hey guys

I'm extremely new to the forum , maybe been reading for about a month now and I'm down to making my first buy. I found a good source and I'm unsure if it's better for a first cycle ever to start with test e 500 or a 4 test blend. Which is also 500mg. I aware most ppl will say go read but this I honestly haven't found a comparison on. Any input would be much appreciated .
Thanks

 

[tdad]

The test 500 will cripple you if inject alone, unless you dilute it.

Do a test only cycle test e 300
500mg a week

E - I know the 500 will cripple you because it had me unable to move for a week

 

[Swim strong]

The test 500 will cripple you if inject alone, unless you dilute it.

Do a test only cycle test e 300
500mg a week

E - I know the 500 will cripple you because it had me unable to move for a week

Thanks for the reply. so there's a distinction between buying the 500 or 300 even if I just do a half mill(250) twice a week of the 500mg . I guess I'm just sort of confused I that matter to what is the difference. Do you get what I mean ? Lol because if I get the 300 and still do 500 a week two shot then loading up will be more confusing right ?

 

[tdad]

Thanks for the reply. so there's a distinction between buying the 500 or 300 even if I just do a half mill(250) twice a week of the 500mg . I guess I'm just sort of confused I that matter to what is the difference. Do you get what I mean ? Lol because if I get the 300 and still do 500 a week two shot then loading up will be more confusing right ?

No its just basic math.
The 500 is more concentrated so it will hurt (a lot) more.
Trust me, go with the 300 and do your math to get to 500 MG a week on that
So 250mg comes to .83 I believe

 

[Swim strong]

No its just basic math.
The 500 is more concentrated so it will hurt (a lot) more.
Trust me, go with the 300 and do your math to get to 500 MG a week on that
So 250mg comes to .83 I believe

Gotcha! Thank you for clearing that up for me. I guess the real confusion was the concentration difference I was unaware of . Thanks man. Also for a first cycle what do you suggest just out of curiosity for hcg, AI and pct? My plan is just to take the AI with no hcg then pct clomid. How does that sound for a first cycle ?

 

[Savagesteve]

I don't run hcg but I've read a lot on here run it @ 500IU a week for the majority of their cycle. Also most run nolva and clomid for pct but I'm sure some with more experience will chime in.

 

[tdad]

Gotcha! Thank you for clearing that up for me. I guess the real confusion was the concentration difference I was unaware of . Thanks man. Also for a first cycle what do you suggest just out of curiosity for hcg, AI and pct? My plan is just to take the AI with no hcg then pct clomid. How does that sound for a first cycle ?

I've never used hcg. If I could go back in time I probably would have.

As far as ai I was taking arimidex once every time I pinned
I forget the dosing but I got it from pharmacom and I can verify their ai is legit
I posted in the cycle log section all my blood work and my estrogen was almost too low on it lol so just monitor and dose accordingly

As far as pct just standard pct for a 16 week test cycle Nolvadex clomid

 

[Swim strong]

Well I appreciate the advise. Would you say the rest of their product are quality as well ?For future knowledge .

 

[tdad]

Well I appreciate the advise. Would you say the rest of their product are quality as well ?For future knowledge .

I've had good experience with them.
Like I said I posted blood work pre cycle and mid cycle somewhere in cycle log forum
I'm sure others have logged pharmacoms products as well
That should give you the information you need

 

[Savagesteve]

Well I appreciate the advise. Would you say the rest of their product are quality as well ?For future knowledge .

If you check out the lab testing section you will see that some have been dosed correctly and some not so much.

 

[tdad]

If you check out the lab testing section you will see that some have been dosed correctly and some not so much.

For the most part everything has been dosed properly by them
I saw one instance where their test 300 was dosed I believe it was 63 MG over label
So 363mg/ml
Which to me is fine, but if you're using it for trt, that could be an issue

 

[Steve84]

The test 500 will cripple you if inject alone, unless you dilute it.

Do a test only cycle test e 300
500mg a week

E - I know the 500 will cripple you because it had me unable to move for a week

I think you just are a pussy
I'm doing Pharmacom Test E-500 1 cc and Pharm Tri Tren 1.5 cc.
It is thick as fuck and does hurt a bit going in but nothing serious and in an hour all pain is gone...but I really haven't had a major problem yet.

But being a first time cycle, you should start low Test E 300 is more than enough to get by. Only go to high concentration when you are trying to get a bang for amount of cc's going in.

 

[tdad]

I think you just are a pussy
I'm doing Pharmacom Test E-500 1 cc and Pharm Tri Tren 1.5 cc.
It is thick as fuck and does hurt a bit going in but nothing serious and in an hour all pain is gone...but I really haven't had a major problem yet.

But being a first time cycle, you should start low Test E 300 is more than enough to get by. Only go to high concentration when you are trying to get a bang for amount of cc's going in.

Did you not read what I posted?
"If you inject alone"

 

[Swim strong]

So you would you guys say doing the test e 300 for weeks 1-10 two shots of 250mg/week the 11-150mg, 12 -100mg per week , be a good plan? So 500 300 200

 

[JJ408G]

The 1st cycle is the best cycle. You should start at a low dose. My 1st was test c @ 200mg and eq @200 mg ran hcg and clomid at the end.that was 10 years ago.till this day I don't ran anything over 500 mg of any compound. thats what works for me tho

 

[guyzcool]

Gotcha! Thank you for clearing that up for me. I guess the real confusion was the concentration difference I was unaware of . Thanks man. Also for a first cycle what do you suggest just out of curiosity for hcg, AI and pct? My plan is just to take the AI with no hcg then pct clomid. How does that sound for a first cycle ?

You're gonna want Nolvadex and clomid. It's shown to be a lot more effective when you take both. And you get get UGL ai, and pct meds but why leave it to chance?
European Pharmaceuticals
@pharmacist runs it, he sells pharmaceutical grade stuff, he has hundreds for pages of positive feedback. Don't leave your recovery to chance with a UGL!

 

[Ryno1980]

Well I appreciate the advise. Would you say the rest of their product are quality as well ?For future knowledge .

If you have the cash run hcg during your cycle.... I didn't catch how old you are or if your married or whatever..... it matters..... running 250 iu every 4 days or 500 iu a week helps keep your boys full and hanging where they are supposed to be..... some peeps think it's pointless to confuse your signals .... but think of it this way....... would you want your kidneys to shut down for a few weeks or months and take a chance of them not functioning properly afterwards? That's probably a horrible example but my point is .... if u can keep your nuts functioning properly and keep that signal flowing from brain to balls why not..... it puts you one step ahead of the game when it's time for pct.....

 

[acoll83]

If you have the cash run hcg during your cycle.... I didn't catch how old you are or if your married or whatever..... it matters..... running 250 iu every 4 days or 500 iu a week helps keep your boys full and hanging where they are supposed to be..... some peeps think it's pointless to confuse your signals .... but think of it this way....... would you want your kidneys to shut down for a few weeks or months and take a chance of them not functioning properly afterwards? That's probably a horrible example but my point is .... if u can keep your nuts functioning properly and keep that signal flowing from brain to balls why not..... it puts you one step ahead of the game when it's time for pct.....

My balls just get in the way lol especially when doing heavy barbell shrugs.

 

[Savagesteve]

My balls just get in the way lol especially when doing heavy barbell shrugs.

Well said

 

[Swim strong]

If you have the cash run hcg during your cycle.... I didn't catch how old you are or if your married or whatever..... it matters..... running 250 iu every 4 days or 500 iu a week helps keep your boys full and hanging where they are supposed to be..... some peeps think it's pointless to confuse your signals .... but think of it this way....... would you want your kidneys to shut down for a few weeks or months and take a chance of them not functioning properly afterwards? That's probably a horrible example but my point is .... if u can keep your nuts functioning properly and keep that signal flowing from brain to balls why not..... it puts you one step ahead of the game when it's time for pct.....

Thanks for the reply. I'm 26 married with two kids . And it's hard to say whether I care if there's a little atrophy bc I got a vasectomy so no more kids for me haha. But overall I really would prefer the least side effects so I do take all yalls advice very seriouse. Thanks again