My first Powerlifting Meet prep - questions/comments

BIGMESC

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Hey all, I have been quiet for awhile, its my jobs busy season but still have been checking in.

To the point,

I have signed up for my first meet in Aug. with the USPF, I chose them because they have meets within 100 miles of where I live and other reasons ;)

I may end up lifting in the RAW FED as well because they have meets in my town and they do drug test.

So I deceided to go natural into my first meet, because I want to have a basline total that is all me.
No PEDs since Feburary and started training solely for PL in about April-May, using a variation of starting strength, as my squat is my weakest lift.

Stats
Age at meet - 48yrs
Weight - 172lbs
Squat - 315x2
Bench - 265 following press commands, I have hit 275+ but with gym form
Dead - 385 no problem felt about 90%

Meet goal is 1000 lb total. Just looking for a solid total and not bomb out.
 
I was going to PM some fellas but thought I would post it up for everyone.
@Masters Power @Docd187123 @weighted chinup @powerlifter89 @ruckin
and everyone else comments please.

I have some first timer questions for you if you don't mind.
I have read the by-laws but am still unclear.

What they heck do you wear under the singlet? I am not shy but don't want to be "that" guy
modified wrestling or ?

Plan on wearing my chucks, knee sleeves and wrist wraps.

Read first time you should enter with you walk around weight, I did at <181lb

I am awhile out yet but setting up my lifts as follows:

lift - kg/lb attempt 1-2-3
Squat - 130/286 140/308 150/330
Bench - 115/254 120/265 125/275
Dead - 165/364 175/385 185/408

I will re evaluate as the date gets closer.

Really don't know much about when to pull back as I approach the meet?
How many days before? What should I be doing in those days and the last few weeks?
Should I check my maxes a month out, a few weeks, at all?

I will post up my work outs later for review. Its fairly simple trying not to overthink it.
 
Good for you for committing to the meet brother, that sounds exciting. As for the singlet thing, I have no idea, I've never competed in powerlifting. Maybe wear some snug compression shorts underneath?

It'll be easier to help you out once you post up your program you'll be doing like you said.
 
Bigmesc definitely try not to overthink it. Get some experience and have fun and don't worry too much about what numbers you hit. I like not trying to drop weight going into the meet.

Briefs or boxer briefs under the singlet will be fine.

I wouldn't worry much about pulling back going into your first meet. I wouldn't do any deadlifting the final week but if your normal bench day is on Monday and the meet is Saturday benching 5 days out from the meet won't hurt at all.

Depends on what program you are on as far as testing your maxes but it really isn't necessary. You may want to do a mock meet a month out wearing your meet equipment with a friend giving you the commands if you are worried about that aspect of competing but again I don't think it is necessary.

You want to back your openers off a little since it is your first meet. I believe Wendler recommends 1st attempt 85%, 2nd attempt 92.5% and final attempt 100%. I don't use those numbers now but I think it is a pretty solid plan for a first meet in that the openers will be light and you will hit them with ease giving you confidence on your other attempts. So on deads you would go something like 347, 378, 408 or as close as you can get to that in kilos.
 
Congrats on doing a meet. You'll have a blast and get addicted in short order.

MP has some solid advice as always. I'll give some alternate ideas but the idea is to do what you think helps the most.

As for what to wear under your singlet look at your Feds rule book. My fed allows shirts so long as they have no profanity and you're allowed to wear whatever for underwear so long as it's not gear like power briefs or squat suit etc. I chose to wear some under armour compression briefs which are basically boxer briefs but spandex and tight to hold my junk snug....and bc I wear it in the gym so I'm comfortable in them.

Different Feds have different rules. Mine allows knee sleeves but you must sign up for raw modern. Raw classic is just belt and wrist wraps no knee support. If you have the funds I'd suggest getting a good belt also ASAP. Wear it in quick and get used to training with it and learning how to breathe and hold your air in your belly not your chest. It will add pounds to your lifts from the first use for most ppl.

I agree not to cut weight for your first meet. I mean if all you need to drop is a few pounds of water then that's one thing. You could eliminate caffeine for a week prior so your tolerance goes down then the day of and before take some caffeine pills or coffee and maybe hawethorne berry also to drop a couple pounds of water. I also did some fasting and glycogen depletion since I had a 24hr weigh in and ample time to hydrate and carb load before the meet. Don't cut by going into a calorie deficit though.

If you're meet is in August it's too early to really have a good gauge of your attempts. By mid to late July you'll have a much more clear picture. Don't worry about your attempts much either. You should be able to be relaxed, calm, and not stressed over minor details. Concentrate on taking care of business on the platform. The last 4-8wks or more even before your meet you should be training under meet conditions. This means same shoes, same protective gear, maybe even in your singlet, work on commands, add pauses to your bench, etc. Specificity is going to be very important in those weeks.

Without knowing your exact training and recovery it's hard to gauge when to pull back but if you're doing something closely resembling starting strength then your last lifting session before a Saturday meet should be around Saturday or Sunday. A heavy bench for single or double and maybe some squats too. Deadlifts I'd stop at least 1.5wks before. The week before the meet work on foam rolling and mobility drills and staying loose and fresh.

Also read your Feds rule book about what's expected for each lift. It's not fun getting red lighted for a technical issue even though you got the lift up. Ask me how I know :(

The key is getting your total on the books your first meet. That is priority number 1. My friend told me this:

"I have left lots of pounds on the table, and I have bombed out. Guess which sucks worse.........

Your first attempt should be something you can easily hit for a double or triple anyday of the week. Somewhere around 85% or so. Your second attempt would be around 92-95% and something you can also do for a hard but not grinding single. Last attempt go for a moderate PR.

Here's what my friend has to say about that

Lift selection can be difficult. I do it differently than most. I take a strategic approach to the opener that many disagree with, but here are my thoughts on the methods.

One method:
First: 200 (easy)
Second: 300 (moderate)
Third: 400 (grinder)

Average loading: 300lbs
Max load: 400lbs

Other method (person of equal strength)
First: 350 (moderate)
Second: 375 (difficult)
Third: 400 (grinder)

Average loading: 375lbs
Max loading: 400lbs

This is an obviously exaggerated example of lift selection, but look at the work done per attempt. The first lifter gets on the board easily. And even though both guys are 400lb lifters, the first lifter has achieved a successful lift with much more energy conserved for the PR attempts. The second guy has been working his ass off on high percentage sub-PR attempts that may compromise his PR attack.

Spacing all of your lifts within striking distance of your PR isn't always the best plan.

Rule #1--get on the board.

A grinder on your first attempt is a bad sign. Kind of leaves you nowhere to go.
 
Todays WO A of A,B,C

86 degrees in my gym so it was a sweaty one, and I passed on cardio usually 15min at end.

Squat

Mass Reps Tempo Rest
110lb. 5
110lb. 5
155lb. 5
195lb. 3
240lb. 2
285lb. 5 30X1 180s
285lb. 5 30X1 180s
285lb. 5 30X1 180s
285lb. 5 30X1 180s

Military Press
Mass Reps Tempo Rest
50lb. 5
50lb. 5
70lb. 5
90lb. 3
110lb. 2

135lb. 5 3110 180s
135lb. 5 3110 180s
135lb. 5 3110 180s
130lb. 5 3110 180s

Chin Ups
Mass Reps Tempo Rest
0lb. 10
45lb. 5 3110 180s
45lb. 5 3110 180s
45lb. 5 3110 180s
45lb. 4 3110 180s

Dips
Mass Reps Tempo Rest
0lb. 10
25lb. 10 40X0 60s
25lb. 10 40X0 60s
25lb. 10 40X0 60s

Leg Curl
Mass Reps Tempo Rest
45lb. 10
70lb. 10 40X0 60s
70lb. 10 40X0 60s
70lb. 7 40X0 60s

Reverse Hypers
Mass Reps Tempo Rest
10lb. 10
10lb. 10 40X0 60s
25lb. 10 40X0 60s
35lb. 10 40X0 60s

Body Tracking
BW 172.5 lb.
BF 14.0%
Date 2015-06-27
 
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Just let your training flow naturally, brother. No need to get yourself tied up in knots, just kill it :)

You'd learn a lot from your first time and there's people who've been through the grind as well.
 
Mondays WO did not feel good about it, had to grind through it, bench was a struggle even with these weights. Which is unusual as historically I seldom have bench issues. Just chalking it up to an off day.
Sleep is poor (5hrs) at most this week and heat is up (85 in gym)

Squat
Mass Reps Tempo Rest
115lb. 5
115lb. 5
155lb. 5
200lb. 3
245lb. 2
290lb. 5 3110 180s
300lb. 2 3110 180s
310lb. 1 3110 180s
270lb. 5 3110 180s

Bench
Mass Reps Tempo Rest
135lb. 5
155lb. 3
190lb. 2
225lb. 5 3110 180s
235lb. 2 3110 180s
225lb. 2 3110 180s
200lb. 6 3110 180s

Deadlift
Mass Reps Tempo Rest
135lb. 5
135lb. 5
180lb. 5
230lb. 3
280lb. 2
340lb. 5 3110 180s

Front Squat
Mass Reps Tempo Rest
135lb. 10 40X0 60s
135lb. 10 40X0 60s

Incline DB Press
Mass Reps Tempo Rest
60lb. 10 40X0 60s
60lb. 10 40X0 60s

Weighted hanging leg raises
Mass Reps Tempo Rest
10lb. 10 40X0 60s
10lb. 10 40X0 60s


Date 2015-06-29
 
@BIGMESC , why are you timing your your big lifts at 3min?

IMO, you should go when you're ready, if the focus is getting stronger in the big three. This is more about strength, than conditioning. If 3 min works for you, so be it, but if you feel you need more time, take it.

Also, what type of program are you running? When I look at the squat workouts you posted and see that you did 285 4x5 and then the next post you did 290x5, 300x2, 310x1, I'm a little confused as to what your progression structure is. In fact, all the weights and corresponding rep ranges for the big three seem inconsistent and unplanned.

If you wouldn't mind, please post your training program and schedule.
 
I'm not sure what your programming is like but why are you doing sets of 5 with weights so close to your sets if 2 weights? You're taking away your energy by doing that. With squats for example if 310 is your working weight then warm up soemthing like this:

Bar x 2 x 10
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 1
275 x 1
315 x whatever your working sets and reps are

Then if you want back off the weight and do some back off sets.

Also don't worry about tempo if you want to do powerlifting. Worry more about a smooth, quick but controlled eccentric followed by an explosive concentric.
 
@BIGMESC , why are you timing your your big lifts at 3min?

IMO, you should go when you're ready, if the focus is getting stronger in the big three. This is more about strength, than conditioning. If 3 min works for you, so be it, but if you feel you need more time, take it.

Also, what type of program are you running? When I look at the squat workouts you posted and see that you did 285 4x5 and then the next post you did 290x5, 300x2, 310x1, I'm a little confused as to what your progression structure is. In fact, all the weights and corresponding rep ranges for the big three seem inconsistent and unplanned.

If you wouldn't mind, please post your training program and schedule.

You beat me you fucker :p
 
What program are you running Bigmesc? I know Poliquin programs tempo training but I'm not that familiar with it or the concept behind it, particularly this close to meet.
 
I'm not sure what your programming is like but why are you doing sets of 5 with weights so close to your sets if 2 weights? You're taking away your energy by doing that. With squats for example if 310 is your working weight then warm up soemthing like this:

Bar x 2 x 10
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 1
275 x 1
315 x whatever your working sets and reps are

Then if you want back off the weight and do some back off sets.

Also don't worry about tempo if you want to do powerlifting. Worry more about a smooth, quick but controlled eccentric followed by an explosive concentric.


Now Im all riled up reading this--Im doing squats today , I think I'll throw in some PL-style squats . I need a strength fix !
 
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I got a friend in the gym who will be doing his next meet next year after turning 50. He wants to compete in the masters class. He hasn't competed since his early 20s. It's definitely possible and highly motivational.
Old dogs certainly can learn new tricks and hats errr belts off to your gym buddy for making that move.
 
@BIGMESC , why are you timing your your big lifts at 3min?

IMO, you should go when you're ready, if the focus is getting stronger in the big three. This is more about strength, than conditioning. If 3 min works for you, so be it, but if you feel you need more time, take it.

Also, what type of program are you running? When I look at the squat workouts you posted and see that you did 285 4x5 and then the next post you did 290x5, 300x2, 310x1, I'm a little confused as to what your progression structure is. In fact, all the weights and corresponding rep ranges for the big three seem inconsistent and unplanned.

If you wouldn't mind, please post your training program and schedule.
I was not following my program should of been 290 4x5 but just wanted to do a strength check that day

I'm not sure what your programming is like but why are you doing sets of 5 with weights so close to your sets if 2 weights? You're taking away your energy by doing that. With squats for example if 310 is your working weight then warm up soemthing like this:

Bar x 2 x 10
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 1
275 x 1
315 x whatever your working sets and reps are

Then if you want back off the weight and do some back off sets.

Also don't worry about tempo if you want to do powerlifting. Worry more about a smooth, quick but controlled eccentric followed by an explosive concentric.

Thanks for the responses, the short answer is cause I don't know any better.

I live in the sticks and now work out alone for the most part.
So I just picked a training program from a phone app and went with it.
Starting strength V2 on the Multiyear weight training iphone app

Looks like this -- with standard 5-10lb progression every Workout

Workout A Workout B Workout C

Squat-------------- Squat--------------Squat
Bench/alt---------Press/alt---------Bench/alt with press each WO
weight pull ups---Deads------------weighted chin ups

Secondaries
Dips----------------Front squat---------BB lunges
Leg curls-----------Incline DB----------Flys
Reverse hyper-----hang leg raise------weighted inclined crunch


I do not follow the timing on the big three really close if I need another min I take it.
The app sets the warm up weights and structure so I have been following them till I figure out what works for me.
 
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The app is steering you wrong. I wouldn't continue to use it. Rather I'd get the book Starting Strength and give it a read. You'll see the differences ie it has none of those secondary lifts really and your main lifts will all be done 3x5. When deads get heavy they'll go to 1x5. If you get 3x5 for a lift Monday, you increase the weight for the next session.

If your working weight for squat is 3x5 @ 315 for example, a warmup would be something like this:

Bar x 2 x 10
135 x 5
185 x 3
225 x 2
275 x 1
315 x 3 x 5 (working sets)

The point is to warmup but not let your warmups affect your working sets as those are the sets that will drive your progress not the warmups n
 

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