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NopeI'd ask the supplier if it were me. Getting yellow raws when they're supposed to be white would sketch me out.
Curious if @janoshik has seen this before - supposedly Test E raws are yellow, melting point is correct in the 30s, but brews deep orange like tren
FYI test-e raws turn to brown liquid when old and or kept at high room temp for too long and will have some very nasty PIP too!
The came from hupharma and the color was a bit yellow but a 30 degrees it was a melting point so it can’t be tren raw
you’re right the raw was like a gel/syrupDid the test-e raw arrive as a powder or as a gel/syrup?
You see. I was suprised too when I reveived the raw, I though it was deca at the beginningWent back and realized I misspoke. Looks like @Jet Labs solvedbthe mystery, thanks mate. So basically they offloaded old and poor quality product on our boy. Jerks.
Went back and realized I misspoke. Looks like @Jet Labs solvedbthe mystery, thanks mate. So basically they offloaded old and poor quality product on our boy. Jerks.
You see. I was suprised too when I reveived the raw, I though it was deca at the beginning
But i have tried the raw from hupharma and for me it wasn’t good
Bad quality, price is high, and thé delivery time too long 2-3 months
It will be useless if i have to waited 2/3months again.Most likely was sent good raws, but then they sat in a hot cargo container for weeks on end and got cooked, either way I'd be asking for a refund or reship.
Anytime you filter ANYTHING you will get particle shedding. Your best bet is to filter straight up oil first, pour it off as waste, then filter the gear. You have less shedding that way. I've also ran Micro flow imaging experiments on filter types and if you can find cellulose acetate you will have the least shedding. Note: this experiment was done with PBS and not solvents or oil. Also it's worth noting that when solvents are used you will have large amounts of PEG leech off the membrane. Again, cellulose acetate was superior in mass spec analysis of samples. PES was the closest best performer to the cellulose acetate followed by pvdf and nylon. With this knowledge you can reduce both PEG and particle shedding in your brew and that should reduce PIP.You can only use ptfe or nylon filters. I see a lot of sources selling pes and pvdf both are not useable with BB. I posted a chart not long ago that verifies this. Your body isnt meant to metabolize filter membrane
Anytime you filter ANYTHING you will get particle shedding. Your best bet is to filter straight up oil first, pour it off as waste, then filter the gear. You have less shedding that way. I've also ran Micro flow imaging experiments on filter types and if you can find cellulose acetate you will have the least shedding. Note: this experiment was done with PBS and not solvents or oil. Also it's worth noting that when solvents are used you will have large amounts of PEG leech off the membrane. Again, cellulose acetate was superior in mass spec analysis of samples. PES was the closest best performer to the cellulose acetate followed by pvdf and nylon. With this knowledge you can reduce both PEG and particle shedding in your brew and that should reduce PIP.
Solvents are what we use. A test without solvents wont give is the information we need to make decisions about filter membrane choice.Anytime you filter ANYTHING you will get particle shedding. Your best bet is to filter straight up oil first, pour it off as waste, then filter the gear. You have less shedding that way. I've also ran Micro flow imaging experiments on filter types and if you can find cellulose acetate you will have the least shedding. Note: this experiment was done with PBS and not solvents or oil. Also it's worth noting that when solvents are used you will have large amounts of PEG leech off the membrane. Again, cellulose acetate was superior in mass spec analysis of samples. PES was the closest best performer to the cellulose acetate followed by pvdf and nylon. With this knowledge you can reduce both PEG and particle shedding in your brew and that should reduce PIP.
I understand that. I'm pulling from a memory of an experiment i did not intended for this specific application, but for a different analytical technique. Cellulose acetate is made specifically for hydrophobic and solvent based applications according to its spec., so I figured it would be relevant. I don't claim to know shit, just relaying real world application I've seen. Also I did see the PEG leeching effect of solvents on pes and pvdf on mass spec, but haven't had a sample to test from other membrane types yet.Pi
Solvents are what we use. A test without solvents wont give is the information we need to make decisions about filter membrane choice.
Could you further elaborate? I'm just curious for my own needs. I'm going to start homebrewing soon and have access to all forms, so any Intel from experienced persons would be helpful. I was looking into oils, possibly a blend of GSO and cottonseed 50/50, then CA membrane of 0.1um, everything autoclaved prior to brew and aliqoutted in a hood. I'm not sure if that's too small of a pore for this application., and I wasn't for certain on the membrane other than my testing from a different experiment I was running. CA is made for hydrophobic solvent base solutions according to its description/spec. Either way a pour off after hydrating the membrane with a solvent/oil mix prior to filtering AAS will be sure to help. With both shedding and leeching.Cellulose acetate and PES are complete garbage for brewing AAS!
I understand that. I'm pulling from a memory of an experiment i did not intended for this specific application, but for a different analytical technique. Cellulose acetate is made specifically for hydrophobic and solvent based applications according to its spec., so I figured it would be relevant. I don't claim to know shit, just relaying real world application I've seen. Also I did see the PEG leeching effect of solvents on pes and pvdf on mass spec, but haven't had a sample to test from other membrane types yet.
Could you further elaborate? I'm just curious for my own needs. I'm going to start homebrewing soon and have access to all forms, so any Intel from experienced persons would be helpful. I was looking into oils, possibly a blend of GSO and cottonseed 50/50, then CA membrane of 0.1um, everything autoclaved prior to brew and aliqoutted in a hood. I'm not sure if that's too small of a pore for this application., and I wasn't for certain on the membrane other than my testing from a different experiment I was running. CA is made for hydrophobic solvent base solutions according to its description/spec. Either way a pour off after hydrating the membrane with a solvent/oil mix prior to filtering AAS will be sure to help. With both shedding and leeching.
People are complaining of pip, I'm relaying what it could be. Particles and PEG are one possibility. I'm an analytical chemist that works with a process engineering team that validates processes for injectable biopharma, so I use the instrumentation to make your process better. I already said I don't claim to know shit. You should also know polypropylene isn't stable with polar organics. If left long enough it will leave the plastic looking cloudy indicating reaction. Every single filter used has shedding in the beginning that's why I recommend the pour off. That's well known basic shit in industry. I usually filter shit into the plastic base because its garbage. Then pull off the filter unit and attach it to a glass base..2 nylon membranes with polypropylene housing and your statements about leaching and shedding are complete nonsense! You are over complicating a VERY simple process that's been done like a BAZILLION times and not trying to be rude, but If you think you know better than those who have much more experience than you then go right ahead and brew however you see fit. Best of luck to you![]()
No it's not.About the PIP, painful but that completely normal with tren acetate
I homebrew it at 100mg/ml with 2%ba its hard the pipNo it's not.
you’re right the raw was like a gel/syrup
Not really brown but yellow gel and the raw has only 6 month, never open the package, no contact with the light…
The raw from QSC hold way better
