My proof of concept for vaccume filtering

[ThinkTrenbolone]

this allows you to take one 60ml syringe. One 100ml vial. One ptfe 0.22micron filter 30mm and filter through vaccume.

This allows you to utilize the standard syringe filter setup however it automates it and helps you stop having to crank down on a caulking gun. Use hairdryer to heat up the syringe randomly when the oil cools down. However this is simply just a general vacume filteration system with out needing to buy one and still keeps the system sterlized as long as you replace the syringe. Needles and filter.

Once finished. You can then transfer your oil to small 10ml vials as you please. Still keeping the entire system sterlized.

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

@Spaceman Spiff

 

[narta]

That's excessive. Use a proper bottletop with glass gl45 receiver or a inline filter with a peristaltic pump.

I personally don't see the need for anything more than the standard caulking gun/syringe filter/pre sterilized vial for personal use.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

@Spaceman Spiff

For personal use? This is a bit much.

No offense, but I can't help you for anything past the caulking gun method

 

[bighunanballs]

without top pressure on the syringe with vacuum assist you will prob be slower than a caulking gun (even if you can seal the 60ml syringe and add a few lbs of pressure in the headspace itll still be slow). if you use an elec vac pump instead of the hand pump you can at least walk away and leave it for the day then come back later.

do a test run with mct and see how it does.

youll prob find out this has been tried a million times by bros in the past to speed this shit up and it always ends in caulking gun or go to bottle top filter

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

without top pressure on the syringe with vacuum assist you will prob be slower than a caulking gun (even if you can seal the 60ml syringe and add a few lbs of pressure in the headspace itll still be slow). if you use an elec vac pump instead of the hand pump you can at least walk away and leave it for the day then come back later.

do a test run with mct and see how it does.

youll prob find out this has been tried a million times by bros in the past to speed this shit up and it always ends in caulking gun or go to bottle top filter

Was considering adding an electric caulk gun in the mix or a electric pump. We shall see.

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

without top pressure on the syringe with vacuum assist you will prob be slower than a caulking gun (even if you can seal the 60ml syringe and add a few lbs of pressure in the headspace itll still be slow). if you use an elec vac pump instead of the hand pump you can at least walk away and leave it for the day then come back later.

do a test run with mct and see how it does.

youll prob find out this has been tried a million times by bros in the past to speed this shit up and it always ends in caulking gun or go to bottle top filter

I do believe heating the oil help this alot. As for the slowness the main purpose was to automate it and not have to baby it.

 

[FaceOff65]

Was considering adding an electric caulk gun in the mix or a electric pump. We shall see.

That's excessive. Use a proper bottletop with glass gl45 receiver or a inline filter with a peristaltic pump.

I personally don't see the need for anything more than the standard caulking gun/syringe filter/pre sterilized vial for personal use.

100% agree!

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

100% agree!

It's not about being excessive it's about experimenting

 

[bighunanballs]

There was a guy on Reddit years ago that made a small stand to hold the feedstock syringe. It had a little platform on top of the plunger you could just load with weights instead of the caulking gun method this would also allow you to "set it and forget it" no need to pump the caulking gun ever so often

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

There was a guy on Reddit years ago that made a small stand to hold the feedstock syringe. It had a little platform on top of the plunger you could just load with weights instead of the caulking gun method this would also allow you to "set it and forget it" no need to pump the caulking gun ever so often

It didn't break the filter? Feed stock Syringe?

 

[bighunanballs]

You'd have to play with the weight. These filters all specify a max differential pressure. The guy on Reddit just built a little jig holder from wood with a platform on top to hold any kind of weighted object maybe 4"x4"

Maximum Differential Pressure, bar (psid) Forward: 5.5 bar (80 psid) @ 25 °C; 1.7 bar (25 psid) @ 80 °C; 0.35 bar (5 psid) @ 135 °C. Reverse: 3.5 bar (50 psid) @ 25 °C

Feedstock is the oil (stock) getting fed (feed) into the process stream (the filter)

Here's a similar I could find on Reddit but its only vac pump and the holder isn't setup to adding weight to the plunger. Seems like a bunch of crap when a bottle top is just easier and faster

https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/s/2EA9NCPtup

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

You'd have to play with the weight. These filters all specify a max differential pressure. The guy on Reddit just built a little jig holder from wood with a platform on top to hold any kind of weighted object maybe 4"x4"

Maximum Differential Pressure, bar (psid) Forward: 5.5 bar (80 psid) @ 25 °C; 1.7 bar (25 psid) @ 80 °C; 0.35 bar (5 psid) @ 135 °C. Reverse: 3.5 bar (50 psid) @ 25 °C

Feedstock is the oil (stock) getting fed (feed) into the process stream (the filter)

Smart. More simple than what i did for sure lol. I probably should have done that. Did he use a vent at least?

 

[bighunanballs]

Smart. More simple than what i did for sure lol. I probably should have done that. Did he use a vent at least?

I edited the post and added link

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

So if I'm reading this right


Maximum Differential Pressure, bar (psid) Forward: 5.5 bar (80 psid) @ 25 °C; 1.7 bar (25 psid) @ 80 °C; 0.35 bar (5 psid) @ 135 °C. Reverse: 3.5 bar (50 psid) @ 25 °C


Assuming this is just an avg for a syringe filter. The hotter then oil. The less I pressure will be needed therfore I'd need even less vaccume ?

 

[bighunanballs]

So if I'm reading this right


Maximum Differential Pressure, bar (psid) Forward: 5.5 bar (80 psid) @ 25 °C; 1.7 bar (25 psid) @ 80 °C; 0.35 bar (5 psid) @ 135 °C. Reverse: 3.5 bar (50 psid) @ 25 °C


Assuming this is just an avg for a syringe filter. The hotter then oil. The less I pressure will be needed therfore I'd need even less vaccume ?

The hotter the oil the more elasticity the membrane has and can rupture. Also if you use top pressure and vacuum you have to combine the total vacuum + top pressure the filter sees for the "differential pressure". If you are just pressing the syringe against the filter that hydraulic force simply against atmosphere is your differential pressure but add a vacuum to the other side of that filter membrane and you have to combine the two for your total differential pressure

 

[ThinkTrenbolone]

The hotter the oil the more elasticity the membrane has and can rupture. Also if you use top pressure and vacuum you have to combine the total vacuum + top pressure the filter sees for the "differential pressure". If you are just pressing the syringe against the filter that hydraulic force simply against atmosphere is your differential pressure but add a vacuum to the other side of that filter membrane and you have to combine the two for your total differential pressure

Got it thanks

 

[HB_22]

View attachment 292759View attachment 292760View attachment 292761this allows you to take one 60ml syringe. One 100ml vial. One ptfe 0.22micron filter 30mm and filter through vaccume.

This allows you to utilize the standard syringe filter setup however it automates it and helps you stop having to crank down on a caulking gun. Use hairdryer to heat up the syringe randomly when the oil cools down. However this is simply just a general vacume filteration system with out needing to buy one and still keeps the system sterlized as long as you replace the syringe. Needles and filter.

Once finished. You can then transfer your oil to small 10ml vials as you please. Still keeping the entire system sterlized.

Im going to build the exact same setup this weekend. 60ml with syringe and syringe filter and it's all fully automatic with a vacuum pump. I am so tired of pushing or using a caulkin gun, I want to set it up, put it on the vacuum, leave it there for an hour and just come back and it's all done.

 

[narta]

Im going to build the exact same setup this weekend. 60ml with syringe and syringe filter and it's all fully automatic with a vacuum pump. I am so tired of pushing or using a caulkin gun, I want to set it up, put it on the vacuum, leave it there for an hour and just come back and it's all done.

Use a bottletop filter, gl45 glassware and silicone septas.

 

[max187]

Use a bottletop filter, gl45 glassware and silicone septas.

Hi Narta can you explain this setup a bit more? i looked up silicone seplas and am not sure of their purpose,
Do you perhaps have pictures of your own setup?
Your castor oil experiments and anecdotal reports have inspired me to try brewing my own stuff especially test D in castor.

I am looking at using bottle top filters into gl45 glassware but am trying to find an easy and sterile way to get the oil from the gl45 bottle and into smaller bottles without the time consuming syringe filter method.
Especially considering the oil will already be filtered.
I plan on buying pre sterilised vials and was thinking of drawing the oil with a long syringe from the gl45 bottle and injecting the oil into the smaller 10/20/30 ml vials for storage.

I found a way to get injection ports screw ons for the gl45 but they are a tad expensive and finding such a long needle that will reach the bottom of a 1000ml gl45 bottle is not easy.
Do you think something like this would work to draw the finished oil from the gl45 and then dispense it with a syringe into smaller bottles?
Thanks for the inspiration.