My Pulmonary Oil Micro-Embolism story

hacf123

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First off, I admit, I'm an idiot for this. I've taken TRT on and off, and I thought I'd try my first proper cycle. I landed on 400mg test cyp and 600mg boldenone weekly. I'm a smaller guy, 5'9" 160 lbs, but I thought the eq side of stronger appetite would help me out. It did for the first 4 weeks, and I had no issue having my wife push a total of 2cc of oil (I believe grapeseed carrier in the test, MCT oil in the eq).

Then on Thursday, January 8th, at the end of the injection, I immediately felt shortness of breath, the need to cough, and lay down, with 45 mins or so of impending doom. I went to sleep after some time and overnight it seemed my symptoms resolved. I read some posts on here that referenced this study: (Acute respiratory distress following intravenous injection of an oil-steroid solution) and read that I should have my wife aspirate and push very slowly to avoid those problems. Well, on Monday, January 11th, she did just that. About 3/4 of the way through, I told her to stop because I felt the cough and other symptoms coming on. There was quite a bit more blood than usual at the injection site. I again laid down and had 45 mins or so of the above. I finally fell asleep and hoped it would be just as for. This time, however, I woke up about an hour or two later with chills so bad that I had to put two layers of clothes on and two blankets on. My blood oxygen level was in the low 90s and my pulse was in the low 110s. It was absolutely exhausting to get up and do anything, and I had a really hard time breathing. I decided not to go to the ER and just monitor my blood oxygen.

The next morning was a little better, and I only had a minor fever. I was still exhausted and had a hard time breathing if I got up or changed position. After 48 hours, I felt a great deal better, and I thought I was well on my way to getting better. Unfortunately, it's 2 and a half weeks later and my symptoms are still intermittent (though much more minor) as well as what feels like acid reflux? I went to the ER a few nights ago because I woke up in the middle of the night with chills, shortness of breath, and exhaustion. They did a chest xray and CT scan with contrast. They didn't see anything except a nodule on my lung, which they're now testing for Valley Fever as I live in AZ, and they referred me to a cardiologist that can't get me in for two weeks. My PCP doesn't seem to believe or understand the possibility of a POME 2 weeks ago (although my D-Dimer was high), and I'm trying to figure out what to do next. Playing and wrestling with my kid stirs up my symptoms, working out is a no-go, and I have no real answers yet.

Any ideas on what might be going on? Another relevant study is here: Occurrence of Pulmonary Oil Microembolism After Testosterone Undecanoate Injection: A Postmarketing Safety Analysis - PubMed
 
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Shit man.

Same thing happened to me, I pulled back and aspirated some and injected 3.5 cc anyway (I was in a hurry). Immediately I could not stop coughing and sweating. Worse cough ever and could not stop. My wife doesn’t know I blast and thought damn, if I die she’s going to kill me! Lol

I took a hot shower and the steam helped but only thing that helped was my kids albuteral and inhaled steroid . For the next 2 weeks I had a cough but I stoped injecting IM, stopped my blast ad did my trt SQ. Eventually for me it went away. Now every time I aspirate and if I see blood I come out and change needle and go somewhere else
 
Thanks for that man, that gives me some more hope that it might resolve on its own. So far the cough I've had hasn't felt productive, just a deep dry cough. But just now I coughed and it felt like something cleared and came up, so maybe I'm on the right track! How long do you figure it took to go away?
 
Thanks for that man, that gives me some more hope that it might resolve on its own. So far the cough I've had hasn't felt productive, just a deep dry cough. But just now I coughed and it felt like something cleared and came up, so maybe I'm on the right track! How long do you figure it took to go away?
Sounds like inflammation at first which is turning into an infection, since it went from dry cough to coughing stuff up, what color is mucus? but thats just opinion.
 
Weird.

Maybe they are having extra problems from a thinner carrier oil (MCT).

I'm spitballing here tho.

I generally keep any comments to personal experience and I have none here.
 
Weird.

Maybe they are having extra problems from a thinner carrier oil (MCT).

I'm spitballing here tho.

I generally keep any comments to personal experience and I have none here.
Maybe onto something, it happened twice and both times it was grapeseed oil
 
No kidding. If you stick to medically indicated injection sites there's nothing for you to hit.

They don't even teach students to aspirate injections in medical / nursing school anymore.
That’s because they are injecting Celestone most the time and max they are doing is 1cc, not 3.5 of oil like we do
 
Upper out quadrant of gluteal muscle, been doing this shit for 22 years and sometimes shit happens. I use a 1.5 inch needle so maybe I went deep, I usually hub the needle.
Vein seeking spear.....1” is plenty, 3/4” should be fine, unless you’re a fat ass(literally/figuratively). So, you’re using a 5ML syringe AND a 1.5” harpoon? What gauge needle?
 
Yeah in my case I think because I don't have too much muscle or too much fat and am pushing a lot of oil for my frame, maybe it's going too deep. I haven't pinned once since this happened over 3 weeks ago.

The gunk I coughed up seemed to change the game in my chest quite a bit. It was like I cleared something out and my chest felt lighter and it's been easier to breathe at the low end of exhalation. It also feels a little more like an infection in there and similar to when I had pneumonia 10 years ago, but more minor. I also got a fever up to 100.4 for a few days, woke up in the middle of the night drenched in sweat but freezing, and have had much more persistent, sometimes productive cough ever since I coughed up that gunk. Test results for valley fever came back negative so that's great but also disconcerting regarding the lung nodule.

The really sucky thing is that nobody outside of an ER will see me in person because those are covid symptoms. Even the ER doc said he didn't think it was covid, didn't even test for it (but still billed me as a covid code lol) and so I'm stuck dealing in telemedicine visits with a PA who doesn't know anything about hormones (let alone AAS) and doesn't believe half of what I'm saying and thinks it might just be anxiety. I barely had any anxiety this entire time, but any I had seemed to be a response to the difficulty breathing. Ever since I coughed up that gunk, my anxiety has been nearly zero since then. I'm calling Defy Medical, who I've TRT'd with in the past, in the hopes they may be more knowledgeable about this kind of thing, even if it's out of pocket.
 
I inject glutes, VG, quads, lats, chest, delts, and have never experienced anything like the scary story in the OP. The only cough ever is from tren and even that is very rare for me.
 
Imagine making a giant post whining about getting some gear in a vein and feeling that tight chested feeling and coughing. Some guys just call that Tuesday.

Welcome to AAS use, newbs. There will be more.

BTW, Modern medical technique / nurse training has also essentially abandoned aspiration. But whatever makes you feel more comfortable.
 
I inject glutes, VG, quads, lats, chest, delts, and have never experienced anything like the scary story in the OP. The only cough ever is from tren and even that is very rare for me.
Only time I got cough(and nausea/lightheadedness)was from shitty gear with too much solvent. Was sustanon, I believe.
 
Imagine making a giant post whining about getting some gear in a vein and feeling that tight chested feeling and coughing. Some guys just call that Tuesday.

Welcome to AAS use, newbs. There will be more.

BTW, Modern medical technique / nurse training has also essentially abandoned aspiration. But whatever makes you feel more comfortable.
Where you been @G.I. Bro ?
 
Where you been @G.I. Bro ?
Around, lurking. I just don't post as much. Busy with career, young kids, etc. Used to post a lot on PM. Then I got banned for talking some truth about gh scene and TP. rajjin banned me for it bc it wasn't good for me business over at that corrupt as forum. He's the main gh sponsor mod and buddy of TP. And TP at that time was a major paying sponsor. Ever since then, I've just felt less inclined to "help" or contribute in formal posts on and forum to that extent.

Meso is where the banned folks come to to die. It's like an elephant graveyard. I like it here, no mafia control.
 
Imagine making a giant post whining about getting some gear in a vein and feeling that tight chested feeling and coughing. Some guys just call that Tuesday.

Welcome to AAS use, newbs. There will be more.

BTW, Modern medical technique / nurse training has also essentially abandoned aspiration. But whatever makes you feel more comfortable.

Yeah well if it was just that for an hour like it was the injection prior I wouldn't worry about it. Which is why I pinned again a few days later. But I don't think this now 3.5 weeks of fatigue, fever, chills, chest pain, shortness of breath, and rash is anywhere near normal. I've already found one guy on here who had something similar to mine for weeks.

Update: Fever's up to 102 at night. Got tested for Covid and Flu last night and both were negative.
 
Yeah well if it was just that for an hour like it was the injection prior I wouldn't worry about it. Which is why I pinned again a few days later. But I don't think this now 3.5 weeks of fatigue, fever, chills, chest pain, shortness of breath, and rash is anywhere near normal. I've already found one guy on here who had something similar to mine for weeks.

Update: Fever's up to 102 at night. Got tested for Covid and Flu last night and both were negative.
Sounds like your cycle caused your balls to drop. Embrace it bro!!!
 
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