My Second Steroid Cycle

[maged]

I'd suggest you run that Aromasin with your HCG blast, that is, during your 3-4 waiting period before beginning your Nolvadex SERM run and after your last AAS injection. You shouldn't need it after that. I agree you could also run your HCG during cycle as well, but you might pass on a safer cycle like this. The boys will come back back post-cycle just fine.

You probably don't need an AI (like Aromasin, though Arimidex is more common) during your cycle with that reasonable-size dosage & time, but I'd suggest keeping some on hand in case of gyno symptoms. Nolvadex should be on hand as a good second choice.

Otherwise you've got a pretty good plan. You've also kept up pretty good patience in the face of the usual initiation-greeting to newbies on this site.

Solo

thnx for ur advice i appreciate it

 

[big_tom]

thank u for this advice i will be taking that into consideration,
i am taking advices btw but only who advice in a mannered way not like the guy that calls a bitch...
as for hcg i searched for it and i found it done in the pct normaly with the aromasin and nolva, whats ur opnion?

Use the HCG like I suggested up until two weeks after last shot. That is when your test will be clear of the system. Test E and C esters are around 14 days. Train Hard and eat right!

 

[maged]

Use the HCG like I suggested up until two weeks after last shot. That is when your test will be clear of the system. Test E and C esters are around 14 days. Train Hard and eat right!

u mean i run the hcg the second half of the cycle and untill 2 weeks after the last hit of test?

 

[solo47]

u mean i run the hcg the second half of the cycle and untill 2 weeks after the last hit of test?

That's what big_tom meant, yes. But 500 iu 3x a week is a lot. I love the idea, mind you, but most think it's too high.

What he means by PCT, is the beginning of your SERM (Clomid or Nolva) use, so, yes, run the HCG for two weeks after your last injection but before you begin to run your SERMS.

With that much HCG (plus the Test), I think you should also run Adex during your cycle, too (about 0.5 mg EOD).

Solo

 

[maged]

That's what big_tom meant, yes. But 500 iu 3x a week is a lot. I love the idea, mind you, but most think it's too high.

What he means by PCT, is the beginning of your SERM (Clomid or Nolva) use, so, yes, run the HCG for two weeks after your last injection but before you begin to run your SERMS.

With that much HCG (plus the Test), I think you should also run Adex during your cycle, too (about 0.5 mg EOD).

Solo

i will keep the hcg till i sense my balls starting to shrink, about the arimidex i am keeping it on hands just for gyno sysmptoms, cuz i know my self i am not that sensitive, my first cycle was deca and test and i didnt even used the arimidex, i didnt need to
and for the hcg when i feel its time to take it i will take it in a dose of 500iu every 5 days and untill 2 weeks after my last hit

 

[liftermo]

looks solid bro, keep it up and look forward to getting huge.

 

[Bill Roberts]

i will keep the hcg till i sense my balls starting to shrink, about the arimidex i am keeping it on hands just for gyno sysmptoms, cuz i know my self i am not that sensitive, my first cycle was deca and test and i didnt even used the arimidex, i didnt need to
and for the hcg when i feel its time to take it i will take it in a dose of 500iu every 5 days and untill 2 weeks after my last hit

Why do you want to plan things where you will intentionally allow your balls to shrink?

It can't be because HCG is so expensive that preventing the problem in the first place is too costly.

Besides this, let's say that the point you have decided your balls have shrunk is right near the end of the cycle. Now there's not enough time left.

And as for 500 IU per 5 days, if allowing the testes to shrink in the first place, recovery of size is probably going to be very slow at that usage rate. (It could well be a sufficient rate to avoid shrinkage in the first place, though.)

 

[maged]

Why do you want to plan things where you will intentionally allow your balls to shrink?

It can't be because HCG is so expensive that preventing the problem in the first place is too costly.

Besides this, let's say that the point you have decided your balls have shrunk is right near the end of the cycle. Now there's not enough time left.

And as for 500 IU per 5 days, if allowing the testes to shrink in the first place, recovery of size is probably going to be very slow at that usage rate. (It could well be a sufficient rate to avoid shrinkage in the first place, though.)

then can u give me ur plan about using the hcg during this cycle?

 

[maged]

i have change my mind and just started the second cycle yesterday (friday)
i will go for
-testosterone cypionate
-equipoise
-masterone

i will shift the primobolan for then next cycle if i did a 3rd one...dunno yet

 

[maged]

All you've done is ignore the advice given to you, so ignoring me when I talk to you like you're a bitch is no different.
If your cycle is so awesome and you won't listen to anybody, then why are you on this site?
You tell etul that you're not an idiot, but yesterday on a 9 month old thread you thought somebody who was explaining how an anti-e blocks E was talking about test enanthate. Great job genius.
Ignore me like a dog, that's fine. But when you come on this site during pct and you're crying like I donkey-punched your giant cunt because hcg is keeping you from recovering properly, I will have zero sympathy.

if my cycle is awesome..advice? lol!!!
nah baby boy i am posting the cycles i do so as dumbass shitty people like u can learn from it

 

[MindlessWork]

if my cycle is awesome..advice? lol!!!
nah baby boy i am posting the cycles i do so as dumbass shitty people like u can learn from it

You are sounding like a braggart...which can be insulting to some people. Lots of great advice was given to you here and don't bite "the hand that feeds you". The vets are great people here and if you are polite and not come off as snooty then people will be glad to help you.

 

[big_tom]

I would listen to what we are trying to tell you. Bill posted up the truth. Don't wait until your balls shrink, trust me, it will only take longer to recover. You would be safe on running 250iu 3 x per week during the second half of your cycle and up until 2 weeks after last Test inject. Worked for me. I use 500iu 3 x per week now but prior cycles have ran it at the 250iu mark and it was sufficient enough.

We are only trying to help you and I don't want to end up saying, "I told you so". Been there done that and many cycles without any HCG to speak of, so I am speaking from experience not from just re-iterating what someone posted on a board.

 

[MindlessWork]

I would listen to what we are trying to tell you. Bill posted up the truth. Don't wait until your balls shrink, trust me, it will only take longer to recover. You would be safe on running 250iu 3 x per week during the second half of your cycle and up until 2 weeks after last Test inject. Worked for me. I use 500iu 3 x per week now but prior cycles have ran it at the 250iu mark and it was sufficient enough.

We are only trying to help you and I don't want to end up saying, "I told you so". Been there done that and many cycles without any HCG to speak of, so I am speaking from experience not from just re-iterating what someone posted on a board.

Absolutely!

I am not a vet and rather a newbie to this, and just reading to absorb the knowledge you guys have to offer. Being a smartass is not a good way to win friends and respect.

 

[maged]

Absolutely!

I am not a vet and rather a newbie to this, and just reading to absorb the knowledge you guys have to offer. Being a smartass is not a good way to win friends and respect.

hey btw i lestens to advices, just go check the post of someanddone he insulted i dunno why, so i told him to be polite or else i will ignore him, except that i listened to all who adviced me

 

[maged]

So you think 175 mgs per week of mast is enough to be an effective estrogen blocker? Not likely.
And next time you post a fucking cycle, why don't you actually include everything you will be running so when people give pertinent advice you don't have to act like a bitch.
And do some fucking research on hcg. YOU DON'T TAKE IT DURING PCT!

Fuck.

check this, then check my answer to him
see how i replied in a gantle way

try to talk in a polite way else dont talk!!!
ignored like a dog...

 

[solo47]

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Now here's a helpful post, right on topic too!

Solo