My shot at building the perfect beast..... not for newbies...

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I think I am only gonna do a couple more cycles...

I am at a plateau and its getting hard for me to gain more than 12lbs off a cycle.
Im at 5'11 255lbs 11% (just finished bulking and overeating)

So, here is an idea for my next cycle.
doesnt quite follow Mr. L. Rea's guidlines but Im still building my beast....

Anadrol - weeks 1-3 150mg ED (strenght gains, red blood cell count)
Dbol - weeks 3-6 50mg ED (weight gains, good pumps)
Test Prop - Weeks 1-15 100mg ED (test...)
Tren Acetate - weeks 3-15 75mg ED (strenght, density)
EQ - weeks 1-15 100mg ED (vascularity, appetite stim)
Oxandrolone - 50mg ED (CP production, solidify gains)
Halotestin? (maybe) - dont know on dose (hardness, workout intensity)

GH - weeks 1-3 2iu ED
weeks 4-7 3iu ED
weeks 8-20 4iu ED

there will be a 3 week clen/T3/ECA stack in there.

It will also be followed by DNP protocol 3 weeks after PCT at 600mg ED for 10days.

Also thinking about maybe doing IGF-1/Slin during PCT.

Nice huh?

Im thinking 2 more of these and im done, maybe after that just test/anavar cycles. but no more of any other substances.

WHat do you think?, how about the halo dosage.

I tolorate everything extremely well.
 
Halo is too toxic to bother with if you ask me.


sev1512 said:
I think I am only gonna do a couple more cycles...

I am at a plateau and its getting hard for me to gain more than 12lbs off a cycle.
Im at 5'11 255lbs 11% (just finished bulking and overeating)

So, here is an idea for my next cycle.
doesnt quite follow Mr. L. Rea's guidlines but Im still building my beast....

Anadrol - weeks 1-3 150mg ED (strenght gains, red blood cell count)
Dbol - weeks 3-6 50mg ED (weight gains, good pumps)
Test Prop - Weeks 1-15 100mg ED (test...)
Tren Acetate - weeks 3-15 75mg ED (strenght, density)
EQ - weeks 1-15 100mg ED (vascularity, appetite stim)
Oxandrolone - 50mg ED (CP production, solidify gains)
Halotestin? (maybe) - dont know on dose (hardness, workout intensity)

GH - weeks 1-3 2iu ED
weeks 4-7 3iu ED
weeks 8-20 4iu ED

there will be a 3 week clen/T3/ECA stack in there.

It will also be followed by DNP protocol 3 weeks after PCT at 600mg ED for 10days.

Also thinking about maybe doing IGF-1/Slin during PCT.

Nice huh?

Im thinking 2 more of these and im done, maybe after that just test/anavar cycles. but no more of any other substances.

WHat do you think?, how about the halo dosage.

I tolorate everything extremely well.
 
sev1512 said:
I think I am only gonna do a couple more cycles...

I am at a plateau and its getting hard for me to gain more than 12lbs off a cycle.
Im at 5'11 255lbs 11% (just finished bulking and overeating)

So, here is an idea for my next cycle.
doesnt quite follow Mr. L. Rea's guidlines but Im still building my beast....

Anadrol - weeks 1-3 150mg ED (strenght gains, red blood cell count)
Dbol - weeks 3-6 50mg ED (weight gains, good pumps)
Test Prop - Weeks 1-15 100mg ED (test...)
Tren Acetate - weeks 3-15 75mg ED (strenght, density)
EQ - weeks 1-15 100mg ED (vascularity, appetite stim)
Oxandrolone - 50mg ED (CP production, solidify gains)
Halotestin? (maybe) - dont know on dose (hardness, workout intensity)

GH - weeks 1-3 2iu ED
weeks 4-7 3iu ED
weeks 8-20 4iu ED

there will be a 3 week clen/T3/ECA stack in there.

It will also be followed by DNP protocol 3 weeks after PCT at 600mg ED for 10days.

Also thinking about maybe doing IGF-1/Slin during PCT.

Nice huh?

Im thinking 2 more of these and im done, maybe after that just test/anavar cycles. but no more of any other substances.

WHat do you think?, how about the halo dosage.

I tolorate everything extremely well.

What's up boss...hmmmm...I don't like that cycle, just me. Your looking for serious size heres my .02 Sev....Anadrol, your only cheating yourself running it for 3 weeks, dude it's the sickest f'in drug out there bar none, run the Drol 8 weeks @150mg a day...I did that and was fuckin strong as fuck and massive. Dbol..hate it, don't like it, never did..if you follow this cycle no need for another oral, too much on the liver. Prop..fuck prop, prop sucks..again my .02...if you want to run a Test ED which is your choice run Suspension at 100mg ED, you'll be much happier than Prop...if you don't want the "jabbing" ED which will become a nuisance after 4-5 weeks...run Cyp @ 600-800mg, some reason Cyp really packs a whallop compared to Enanthate and I don't care what people say about the esters being similar, Cyp packs more punch. Again if you want to stray away from ED injects go with Tren Enanthate at 500mg a week..plenty sufficient. EQ is great but every 4 days is fine my man, no need for the constant poking 600mg a week is fine. Var is a def. a good choice run 30-40mg ED...no need for Halo with Var bro, Var makes you just as hard and vascular without the temper and sides as Halo. Hope this helps my friend..again no knocking you Sev, just my .02

Shock
 
i agree, run the longer esters of tren and test (although i like enathate better than cyp). less injections, and your gains wont plateu after 6-8 weeks. also, compared to your drol doses, your test doses look low, why would you take 150mg ed of drol and take only 100mg of test?? i'd switch to test enath and run it at 1g per week, run the drol 8 weeks. you might want to think about throwing a small dose of suspension in towards the end of the cycle to keep the gains coming (after you drop the drol)

Shockrock3 said:
What's up boss...hmmmm...I don't like that cycle, just me. Your looking for serious size heres my .02 Sev....Anadrol, your only cheating yourself running it for 3 weeks, dude it's the sickest f'in drug out there bar none, run the Drol 8 weeks @150mg a day...I did that and was fuckin strong as fuck and massive. Dbol..hate it, don't like it, never did..if you follow this cycle no need for another oral, too much on the liver. Prop..fuck prop, prop sucks..again my .02...if you want to run a Test ED which is your choice run Suspension at 100mg ED, you'll be much happier than Prop...if you don't want the "jabbing" ED which will become a nuisance after 4-5 weeks...run Cyp @ 600-800mg, some reason Cyp really packs a whallop compared to Enanthate and I don't care what people say about the esters being similar, Cyp packs more punch. Again if you want to stray away from ED injects go with Tren Enanthate at 500mg a week..plenty sufficient. EQ is great but every 4 days is fine my man, no need for the constant poking 600mg a week is fine. Var is a def. a good choice run 30-40mg ED...no need for Halo with Var bro, Var makes you just as hard and vascular without the temper and sides as Halo. Hope this helps my friend..again no knocking you Sev, just my .02

Shock
 
SOUTHFLEX said:
nice cycle shockrock3, i'm writin that one down. SOUTHFLEX

i would forego the halo and ox. "too many orals made me yellow,"(a buff ralph wiggum). that seems like a bit much on the liver and the cost does not justify.
 
The idea of Rea's protocols is the synergy involved in phase cycling. You have none of that. It looks like a traditional cycle with everyone thing thrown in. You should give one of his protocols an honest shot. They took me to 225, 10% bodyfat in about 9 months (I'm 5'5).
 
DIEZEL666 said:
The idea of Rea's protocols is the synergy involved in phase cycling. You have none of that. It looks like a traditional cycle with everyone thing thrown in. You should give one of his protocols an honest shot. They took me to 225, 10% bodyfat in about 9 months (I'm 5'5).
Damn . . . you really need to work on that bodyfat. :D
 
thanks guys for the input.

SHOCK bro your the man...

Actually I was thinking about adding 3 25mg shots of test suspension (water based) ED along with my prop....

I like prop, works good on me. I get the flu with all other tests...
I like fast acting gear in general.

Ok so no halo, it was more to quench my curiosity.

I havent used Anadrol before that was my reasoning for keeping the duration low.
I like dbol alot, mainly for the pumps I get from it.
what about if I make it 5 weeks at drol followed by 3 of dbol?
how that sound....

I have no prob with ED injects, its more a price thing as far as the test suspsension or prop goes, prop is dirt cheap...

Thanks again guys...
 
Love that logic shock, you and I think very much alike. I also agree, for whatever reason test cypionate will always be my favorite it just seems to work best for me. Anadrol @ 150mg ED for 8 weeks? might have to try that i am sure that is quite a ride!
 
sev1512 said:
thanks guys for the input.

SHOCK bro your the man...

Actually I was thinking about adding 3 25mg shots of test suspension (water based) ED along with my prop....

I like prop, works good on me. I get the flu with all other tests...
I like fast acting gear in general.

Ok so no halo, it was more to quench my curiosity.

I havent used Anadrol before that was my reasoning for keeping the duration low.
I like dbol alot, mainly for the pumps I get from it.
what about if I make it 5 weeks at drol followed by 3 of dbol?
how that sound....

I have no prob with ED injects, its more a price thing as far as the test suspsension or prop goes, prop is dirt cheap...

Thanks again guys...

OMG my man you've never tried Drol...you are in for a SERIOUS treat, they make Dbols feel like...well....nothing. Pumps..you have no idea my man..literally feels like your muscles will burst from your skin, I'm not shitting you. The increase in red blood cell count @ 150mg ED is insane. Like I said, it's my .02 you can't compare D's to Drols, there is such a difference.
I gotta find a way to talk you out of Prop, lol...if $$$ is a factor then yes Prop is cheaper bro but I swear you'd love Suspension sooo much better.
Please reconsider the Drol idea I have, you'll make me much happier :D Talk to you soon boss

Shock
 
morepain said:
Love that logic shock, you and I think very much alike. I also agree, for whatever reason test cypionate will always be my favorite it just seems to work best for me. Anadrol @ 150mg ED for 8 weeks? might have to try that i am sure that is quite a ride!

Honestly you don't feel like you want to come off after using Drol that long..you literally feel like Superman...your lifts i.e. Incline, Squat, etc. will go up DRAMATICALLY even for an experienced user.
Yeah there are alot more of us out there morepain that love Cyp more than Enanthate, I swear there is such a big difference. NEVER will I use Test Enanthate in a cycle again..never....next one will be with the Spanish Testex, nice human grade Cyp.

Shock
 
i like both cycles actually...i do agree, cyp is better than enan...my opinion....hits me better...as far as drol goes...i don't like drol...all i have ever gotten was bunk green giants...the anadrolics....i hate them...what sort of drol do you recommend...150mg/8 weeks...? i like it...i have been off cycle for 7 weeks coming up...now that i see these cycles...i am jumping on today! ;)
 
Toughbody said:
i like both cycles actually...i do agree, cyp is better than enan...my opinion....hits me better...as far as drol goes...i don't like drol...all i have ever gotten was bunk green giants...the anadrolics....i hate them...what sort of drol do you recommend...150mg/8 weeks...? i like it...i have been off cycle for 7 weeks coming up...now that i see these cycles...i am jumping on today! ;)

I would NEVER trust Androlics, that's just me personally...they are too damn sketchy, can't trust you'd get real ones.

Now...there is 1 man I know of that can get you the REAL Hemogenin's from Brazil....#1 Drol, just like Zambon is heads and tails above all other Winny. I'm sure you know the guy...doesn't post on this board. If you don't know..just PM me...he's Int'l though. Grab yourself 200 for an 8 eight week cycle...you'll thank me ;)
If you don't want those...I personally loved the Denkall 75mg's. Very powerful and very REAL...crazy strength gains.
I'll get flamed for this cuz this guy turned scammer but The Mechanic had LEGIT Argentina Syntex Drol last winter..I researched it, talked to other knowledible guys and yeah these were real Syntex. I only got 100...that stuff made your skin feel like it was ripping off your muscles. Pumps I couldn't describe...not like anything else. Anyway...they are not around anymore :mad: :mad:

Shock
 
im on day 7n of the drol an im gonna run it in every cycle from now on. i absoultley swear by this now. it is amazing and youll never understand what i mean till you try it. day 7? an im this in love with it, i think i might have a problem :)
 
Shock my man... I have decided to wait 2 more weeks to start up this cycle...
so two more pay checks...

Im gonna hustle my ass off this week, and try to keep as much cash from my trip as possible.

What I want to do is water based test suspension. because I want to spot inject multi times a day. I personally feel that gear with an ester doesnt effect localized growth... but with water based test, its only in your blood for like 16 hours so damn I doubt all of it can go systematic that quickly.

I gotta spot inject, becasue my arms are way too big gotta try anything to catch up the rest of me. I dont wanna look like "The ramblin Freak" there I forget his name now....

As far as anadrol goes, im gonna go with QV oxivet 75mg tabs, I love QV gear and i know they are good so.... why risk it going elsewhere...

Oh and shock, was it gehrkes from brazil whos got real Hemogenims? hes about the only person ive seen with those, but I dont really like him.

gonna run tren and EQ the whole time.

PCT im thinking about keeping the GH at 4iu but adding slin, and IGF-1... I dont know yet.

Like I said I dont wanna cycle anymore, because I always want to add more and more to each one.... so im gonna do 2 extreme cycles and its over....

shock thanks very much for the help... funny how you completely talked me into drols only and test susp... lol
I guess im easily swayed....
 
sev1512 said:
Shock my man... I have decided to wait 2 more weeks to start up this cycle...
so two more pay checks...

Im gonna hustle my ass off this week, and try to keep as much cash from my trip as possible.

What I want to do is water based test suspension. because I want to spot inject multi times a day. I personally feel that gear with an ester doesnt effect localized growth... but with water based test, its only in your blood for like 16 hours so damn I doubt all of it can go systematic that quickly.

I gotta spot inject, becasue my arms are way too big gotta try anything to catch up the rest of me. I dont wanna look like "The ramblin Freak" there I forget his name now....

As far as anadrol goes, im gonna go with QV oxivet 75mg tabs, I love QV gear and i know they are good so.... why risk it going elsewhere...

Oh and shock, was it gehrkes from brazil whos got real Hemogenims? hes about the only person ive seen with those, but I dont really like him.

gonna run tren and EQ the whole time.

PCT im thinking about keeping the GH at 4iu but adding slin, and IGF-1... I dont know yet.

Like I said I dont wanna cycle anymore, because I always want to add more and more to each one.... so im gonna do 2 extreme cycles and its over....

shock thanks very much for the help... funny how you completely talked me into drols only and test susp... lol
I guess im easily swayed....


Nah I'm a shitty salesman, lol. You'll thank me about the Drols :p Just be careful if your gonna spot inject Suspension straight. As you know Suspension forms an implant in the muscle and I'm telling you...it's uncomfortable. Not like sore uncomfortable but painful uncomfortable. Shoot in your bi's first..then PM me, lol....that was mistake #1 for me...I was at the Bruins/Canadiens playoff game a few years ago @ the Fleet Center and it looked like I was doing curls, lol...couldn't straighten out my arms for 1 1/2weeks. Ask rambo about spot injecting Suspension in your pec...again your choice, try it a few times..if you can tolerate it then god bless you...I tried it in bi's & tri's and not happening. After the abscess I shot it a bunch of times in my delt...hmm..still a nice achy lump, looks like a small egg when I work out.
Nope not geherkes boss...I know you like QV BUT if this is your first time doing Drol and can get your hands on the BEST i.e. Hemos.....I'd go the extra mile. PM me for the name of the guy, he is well respected Int'l bro from another board.

Shock
 
so for 8 weeks at 150Mg/ed, i would needa round 150 tabs....i cannot wait to do this one...here i go to grow again!
TB
 
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