My TRT Experience: HCG Boosted Libido, Planning a Low-Dose Bulk (Need Advice

Hi guys,
I finally figured out my TRT values , or better said, I’ll know them exactly this Tuesday when I get my labs back.

202,5 mg of test cyp (3 x MWF subq) put my total T at 1200, so I assume that 170–150 mg is my high TRT range (right now I’m at 172.5 and will be getting bloodwork on Tuesday).

That said, I also wanted to share that I stopped HCG for three months. I was running 250 mg of test (over 1500 total T) with E2 always around 30–40. My libido was okay but nothing special, i could day just a little low… what really makes the difference for me is HCG. 3 weeks ago i dropped my test dose from 202,5Mg to 172,5 mg and added just 250 IU 3x per week, my libido skyrocketed (while lowering the test dose). I don’t know if any of you guys noticed the same thing, but I clearly felt an improvement in erection quality, desire, etc. I’m sure it was the HCG because I monitored myself closely both with bloodwork and how I felt.


Now, another topic: I’d like to start a bulk on very moderate of TESTOSTERONE . I’ll keep my TRT with test cyp at 172 mg (3 subq shots per week) and I’d like to add some propionate. That way, if any problem shows up, the surplus test clears from my body quickly. I’d like to work up to 40 mg/day, starting at 15 mg, then increasing to 30, then to 40 with 3 weeks between dose changes. Do you guys think that makes sense, or would it be better to just start directly at 40 mg of prop?


Second question: I’ll probably need an AI and I’d like to use exemestane. Can you advise me on how to set up bloodwork to calibrate it? Obviously, I don’t want to take it as a precaution before it’s necessary. Do you think checking estradiol every 3 weeks is sensible, or should I test more often? (It’s a cheap test anyway if I just analyze that value.) Also, what dosage and timing would you suggest for starting exemestane?

Thanks a lot to anyone who will help me, and a special thanks goes to those who have helped me up to now, allowing me to do things properly and with a clear purpose.
 
but I clearly felt an improvement in erection quality, desire, etc.

I like shooting fat loads. HCG is the best.

I’ll keep my TRT with test cyp at 172 mg (3 subq shots per week) and I’d like to add some propionate. That way, if any problem shows up, the surplus test clears from my body quickly. I’d like to work up to 40 mg/day, starting at 15 mg, then increasing to 30, then to 40 with 3 weeks between dose changes. Do you guys think that makes sense, or would it be better to just start directly at 40 mg of prop?

First, forget every three weeks. That's not long enough for steady serum levels. You'll be a moving target. 4-6 weeks is the standard.

A lot of guys say beginners shouldn't start with prop. I honestly don't know why so I'll let the more experienced guys address this but your dosages look fine. You are better off starting low and titrating up to see where you feel best.

You didn't really list your goals so idk if you're body building or just want to feel better or what. Kinda hard to give further advice.

Second question: I’ll probably need an AI and I’d like to use exemestane. Can you advise me on how to set up bloodwork to calibrate it? Obviously, I don’t want to take it as a precaution before it’s necessary. Do you think checking estradiol every 3 weeks is sensible, or should I test more often? (It’s a cheap test anyway if I just analyze that value.) Also, what dosage and timing would you suggest for starting exemestane?

Well, first thing you need to do is run your starting dose of test only. You'll do a steady dose for about 4 weeks if using cyp then get a hormone panel to look at Total Testosterone, Free Testosterone, Estradiol LC/MS Sensitive, SHBG. You might as well pull a CBC, BMP, Lipid Panel. There's going to be values in there that you want to compare to your baseline (you have baselines, right?)

You only need to check your E2 when you change something. So if you are increasing your dose, you need to wait 4 weeks for serum levels to stabilize to the new dose then pull new bloodwork.

You don't want to use an AI before you know you need to. If you start to get sides don't panic. Gyno doesn't grow over night, you have time to assess and address. A lot of guys panic and crash their E2 and that doesn't feel good.

You say you'll probably need an AI. How do you know this?
 
Thanks a lot for the time you dedicated!


So generally I monitor myself very closely, especially in these last three months where I fine-tuned my TRT dose. I actually started the other way around, from 250 mg down to 172.5, which is the one I currently follow, and I think it’s the right dose to keep my total testosterone under 1000, while my E2 has never gone above 41 with zero sides.
I’ve also monitored blood lipids, DHT, SHBG, and all the other values.
Let’s say my question was more in the perspective of: if I were to find myself with high estrogen, like 75+, how should I handle that with an AI, which one to choose and at what dosages, etc.


My goal is a bulk with a sustainable dose of products, without overdoing it.
So, do you think it’s better to increase the dose every 4 weeks instead of 3? Even if I’m only going up with propionate?

And I have to say, HCG gives me extreme libido… but I can’t quite understand the scientific explanation for it.”
 
The strongest AI will crash your libido because it will crash your e2 too..
and what do you mean with “sexual immorality”

I can say that not for all e2 increase libido..
HCG also increases neurosteroids, total testosterone, and estrogens…
I doubt that all this increase in libido is due to estrogens.
It’s really difficult to determine this, since everyone responds in their own way.


If you took the strongest Aromatase inhibitor your libido would be gone. Estrogen increases libido. Libido might cause sexual immorality, what’s worse?
 
The strongest AI will crash your libido because it will crash your e2 too..
and what do you mean with “sexual immorality”

I can say that not for all e2 increase libido..
HCG also increases neurosteroids, total testosterone, and estrogens…
I doubt that all this increase in libido is due to estrogens.
It’s really difficult to determine this, since everyone responds in their own way.
Well, who can argue with that?
 
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