MythotiK's Fall Cycle!!!!!!!!

MythotiK

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Ok, I would like MESO's help on this :) :) :)

As you may know I now run short 8 week cycles per Millard (thank you for the suggestion and knowledge)...

I am planning on running:

Weeks 1-8 - Test Prop @ 400mg/Weekly
Weeks 1-6 - Tbol @ 40mg/ED
Weeks 1-6 - Anavar @ 40mg/ED

Torem as needed for sensitive nips (not gyno prone), yes Torem works for this...
Nolva @ 10-14 days after last pin (Depending on bloods)

Since I now run short cycles, is 400 a week enough of Test Prop?

Yes, I am running Tbol and Var together :)

-Myth-
 
Looks nice, can you just bridge your short cycle to another with a cruise dose of 200mgs test E at the end and run it into another 8 week blast? Upping your prop to 500mg and var to at least 50mg for the bridged cycle.
 
Right on I don't have that luxury, my normal test levels are like 190. Are you pretty immune to the estrogen effects? I noticed no adex or aromasin.
 
I've been pretty lucky, my E2 levels stay fairly low, and have never been the victim of gyno...My nips get slightly sensitive at about week 6, hit them with torem for about 3-4 days and they cool off :)
 
Myth, do you use Torem for PCT as well? What dosage you run when your nips flare up? Also, is it pharma Torem or RC?

No HCG?
 
I've been pretty lucky, my E2 levels stay fairly low, and have never been the victim of gyno...My nips get slightly sensitive at about week 6, hit them with torem for about 3-4 days and they cool off :)

I've never gotten gyno either. Ill have to look into torem and these short cycles.
 
Badass that you have such great stable levels so easily and low estrogen sides. Before after pics i mean

Lol, I'm tired, sorry...Not much of a pic guy, but I just may do it did for this one...
 
May I ask what the logic is behind the shorter cycle you were recommended. I'm not too experienced so I always thought 8 weeks was when your prime was in a cycle before gains slow. Do you plan to cycle again sooner?
 
Yes, 8 weeks on - 10 weeks off, and so on...

The main reason is to limit the negative health impact that steroids DO have on users.
For those of you that don't get lab work done while on steroids I would have you know that steroid use causes a very bad shift in the lipid profile. HDL(good cholesterol) which acts like a sticky sweeping broom to sweep up bad LDL (bad cholesterol) and prevent plaque build up on atery walls, goes EXTREMELY LOW in, dare I say, ALL MEN. Not only this but LDL levels usually climb and this is combo is not good.
Short cycles still cause a crappy lipid shift but not to the same degree as the long cycle. Also less time "On" means less time for potential aterial plaque build up.
After my last long cycle of 14 weeks I had some blood work done and my doc HAD A COW as my hdl to total cholesterol ratio was extremely poor.

There isn't a damn thing you can do to significantly avoid this....you can take niacin , flax oil , do cardio and have a pefect diet low in saturated fat and you will STILL get a very shitty lipid profile.

So a very bad lipid profile with high ldl and rock bottom hdl is a SIGNIFICANT risk factor for aterial plaque build up and heart disease. As a side....anyone that thinks "Arny" only got his aortic valve done doesn't have a clue. I know for a fact that he had a coronary bypass as I have seen the memos from the members of the heart team that did his operation.

True there are other risk factors for heart disease but this is a big one and well documented as well.

HEW!!! Next ...short cycles limit other side effects like hair loss, acne, high Blood pressure and resulting kidney stress, testicular shrinkage and poor HPTA rebound.

Also short cycles are a heck of a lot easier on the old liver especially if 17aa orals are used....got to love d-bol he he he !

WHAT SHORT CYCLES ARE NOT

Short cycles will not result in bigger gains. Short cycles will not allow one to be competive in todays national level competitions. Short cycles will not give you 30 pounds of bulk at one time.

WHAT SHORT CYCLES CAN DO

Short cycles can give you decent gains that are FAR better than what you could attain to as a natural. Gains of 10 pounds are not infrequently kept form a short cycle with the novice or those that are not at least very close to their natural maximum weight.

Short cycles will allow a much quicker HPTA recovery than a long cycle and this allows one to kepp a higher percentage of ones gains. In fact full testosterone rebound often happens in but a week. Gains often continue in the weeks after the short cycle is over simply because ones natural test production often jumps a little higher than normal becuase the pituitary really hammers out the LH and the testes have not shunk.
My natural test production is quite good for a man of 38 at 550. I tested my test level a week after I stopped a 14 day cycle and it had rebonded to 650 from the immediate pre cycle 550. On day 15 it was down to 54!

How many of you have experienced gains AFTER coming off a 8 weeker...not a one I would say.

Lets face it, if you gain 25 -30 pouns of bulk in a long cycle you sure the hell aren't going to be able to hang onto more than 15 of those pounds over the next 6 months unless you were WAY WAY under your potential to begin with.

BEFORE DOING SHORT CYCLES.....

learn how to train and gain WITHOUT steroids. This is critical! IF one knows how to train without gear then adding a small amount of gear over a short period of time can result in great gains.
Trouble is almost nobody knows how to gain without steroids so they do the large doses over long periods of time to compensate for their chronic over training and poor training, sleeping habits.
 
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