MythotiK's Fall Cycle!!!!!!!!

Yes, 8 weeks on - 10 weeks off, and so on...

The main reason is to limit the negative health impact that steroids DO have on users.
For those of you that don't get lab work done while on steroids I would have you know that steroid use causes a very bad shift in the lipid profile. HDL(good cholesterol) which acts like a sticky sweeping broom to sweep up bad LDL (bad cholesterol) and prevent plaque build up on atery walls, goes EXTREMELY LOW in, dare I say, ALL MEN. Not only this but LDL levels usually climb and this is combo is not good.
Short cycles still cause a crappy lipid shift but not to the same degree as the long cycle. Also less time "On" means less time for potential aterial plaque build up.
After my last long cycle of 14 weeks I had some blood work done and my doc HAD A COW as my hdl to total cholesterol ratio was extremely poor.

There isn't a damn thing you can do to significantly avoid this....you can take niacin , flax oil , do cardio and have a pefect diet low in saturated fat and you will STILL get a very shitty lipid profile.

So a very bad lipid profile with high ldl and rock bottom hdl is a SIGNIFICANT risk factor for aterial plaque build up and heart disease. As a side....anyone that thinks "Arny" only got his aortic valve done doesn't have a clue. I know for a fact that he had a coronary bypass as I have seen the memos from the members of the heart team that did his operation.

True there are other risk factors for heart disease but this is a big one and well documented as well.

HEW!!! Next ...short cycles limit other side effects like hair loss, acne, high Blood pressure and resulting kidney stress, testicular shrinkage and poor HPTA rebound.

Also short cycles are a heck of a lot easier on the old liver especially if 17aa orals are used....got to love d-bol he he he !

WHAT SHORT CYCLES ARE NOT

Short cycles will not result in bigger gains. Short cycles will not allow one to be competive in todays national level competitions. Short cycles will not give you 30 pounds of bulk at one time.

WHAT SHORT CYCLES CAN DO

Short cycles can give you decent gains that are FAR better than what you could attain to as a natural. Gains of 10 pounds are not infrequently kept form a short cycle with the novice or those that are not at least very close to their natural maximum weight.

Short cycles will allow a much quicker HPTA recovery than a long cycle and this allows one to kepp a higher percentage of ones gains. In fact full testosterone rebound often happens in but a week. Gains often continue in the weeks after the short cycle is over simply because ones natural test production often jumps a little higher than normal becuase the pituitary really hammers out the LH and the testes have not shunk.
My natural test production is quite good for a man of 38 at 550. I tested my test level a week after I stopped a 14 day cycle and it had rebonded to 650 from the immediate pre cycle 550. On day 15 it was down to 54!

How many of you have experienced gains AFTER coming off a 8 weeker...not a one I would say.

Lets face it, if you gain 25 -30 pouns of bulk in a long cycle you sure the hell aren't going to be able to hang onto more than 15 of those pounds over the next 6 months unless you were WAY WAY under your potential to begin with.

BEFORE DOING SHORT CYCLES.....

learn how to train and gain WITHOUT steroids. This is critical! IF one knows how to train without gear then adding a small amount of gear over a short period of time can result in great gains.
Trouble is almost nobody knows how to gain without steroids so they do the large doses over long periods of time to compensate for their chronic over training and poor training, sleeping habits.
Old schooler's like myself have always ran cycles this way unless it was during a competition cycle. Then it would be ten to twelve weeks.

Not many people "cruised" back in the day (or admitted it). Cycle was the key word.

"There isn't a damn thing you can do to significantly avoid this....you can take niacin , flax oil , do cardio and have a pefect diet low in saturated fat and you will STILL get a very shitty lipid profile."
Myth, do you not take any on cycle therapy supplements (fish oil, NAC....)?

Looks like a classic run there. I love it. Have a good run.
 
Amazing info man. Thanks for that lengthy reply, well said. On that note alone I will incorporate this info into my own plans. I was told aromasin helps keep your lipid levels better than adex, and raises free test. I can completely agree a lot of people run to gear to do the work for them, they are wrong, and also the ones who lose everything post cycle.
Jimmy,
where did you get the clown?
 
Haha just came across it online looked creepy so I took it.
That's funny. I use that during hockey season when my team plays another. I use the animated GIF version:
clown11.gif
 
This looks like an excellent cycle. But as someone noted earlier, Tbol, Var, & TP will make you a raging sex maniac. I've run just 400mg/wk TP with 30mg Tbol and I could've painted the house. Tbol is awesome!!! Sub'd
 
***Updated***

Weeks 1-8: Test Prop @ 100mg/EOD

Weeks 1-6: Tbol @ 40mg/ED

Weeks 1-6: Anavar @ 40mg/ED

Weeks 2-8: Anastrozole @ .5mg/EOD

PCT: 10-14 days after last pin (bloods to verify)

Nolvadex @ 20mg/ED for 3-4 weeks

-Myth-
 
I see no need to run more than one, you just need to adjust the dosage based on your cycle, just my opinion though...I wouldn't run nolv anything higher then 40mg/ED, taper down to 20mg/ED the last few weeks...I do not use clomid as it makes me feel like crap...I use Torem as a pct as well...
 
I am not gyno prone either cycle looks solid as hell, and I would love a half and half cap of what you suggested. Share the wealth lol good luck brother.
 
Good luck on your cycle MythotiK! What are your goals and are they still the same as the days before you started?
 
10lbs lean muscle, and drop about 10lbs of fat, I suck at sticking to a diet, we shall see


-Myth-
 
If you were going to run torem for your pct, what dosage/duration would you go with? And could that be used in conjunction with say nolva or clomid?
 
My cycle will start Tuesday am, pics of compounds soon...


-Myth-
 
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