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Need advice on first stack. Test 400, Tri-tren, and Deca.

PaulW29 said:
Not poison. Just underdosed my man.
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Ok cool. We'll it looks like I need to find better gear. Any suggestions? But a buddy of mine has been taking it. Just wanted some clarity if it's poison. Thanks for your honesty and help. I really appreciate everyone's openness and honesty.
 
Yeah I'm telling you from experience lol
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PaulW29 said:
Dude couldn't tell you on other products. I can only tell you my bloods can back at 2.5x my dose. Their deca and bolden one seem to be good.
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I can't say thanks enough bro. Obviously I'm a rookie and you're help is greatly appreciated. I want to do this correctly.
 
TheHamburglar said:
Just to expand on why the other guys are telling you to run test only is not just because it helps get your feet wet learning how your body will respond, but because you've just begun getting your feet wet researching, tren and deca are both progesterones, stacking them will come with some serious sides not to mention both compounds on there own can carry pretty serious sides, deca may caus some bloat, major shutdown, and the illustrious deca dick; and tren can be a whole other motherfucker sitting by itself in its own league if you're prone to the sides, some aren't, and some will experience irritability, insomnia, profuse sweating ( I wake up drenched when on tren), along with a slew of gyno issues. Most will recommend a few cycles before even trying tren and for you to jump in stacking to serious compounds may cause more harm than good.

Trust and believe us when we tell you, run test alone for your first time, than maybe test with a dbol kick start, than add some deca to the next one and learn how you respond to each, I know that reading some of these insane cycle breakdowns seems appetizing but also remember for those of us who use incredulous amounts of gear or run some more intricate cycles is because of 2 things, our experience on how we react and how to assess issues if they arise, and second because many of us are lifers and shutdown is now the norm for us so our lack of concern with suppression is evident in our cycle.

You're doing the right thing though, research and ask questions BEFORE the cycle, to often a thread is started because of all the issues mid cycle.
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Thanks for taking the time to explain. Much appreciated
 
I know Millard is trying to do a good thing , I just don't trust any ONE web site, ONE person, or ONE perfect lab work . It's just sketchy to me that they can't get the cheapest stuff out there (test) right, but they get primo ( very expensive) slightly overdosed. It just doesn't add up.
 
PaulW29 said:
I still don't know if I believe in the randomness of that . If Paxton can't get their fucking testosterone correct , how do they have perfectly dosed primo?!!?
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Nothing is full proof but it's a start. I can not answer your question as too why. But Millards program tests what they receive. So yes the nxt batch could differ. Continued testing will show in time which labs stay on par with a good average. No ?
 
RodgerThat said:
600mg test e/w pinned 2x a week. Keep everything else for your next cycle you don't need it yet. First cycle is to get your feet wet with test and see how you respond not to put multiple compounds in and have unknown reasons for which sides you're getting.
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I agree learn how to control estrogen and how you react with test.maybe even start with 250 300 mg I'm telling you people east gear eat good drink alot of water 300 mg is good or 400 I hardly ever go above 400 but with other aas.I'm in the 800 to 1000. it shouldn't be a mg.contest IRS what works with less sides but still gain.
that's what takes a little bit to learn.but try you a dose nor every one else's dose
 
PaulW29 said:
Test deca. Wait on that tren man. Educate yourself on tren, the side effects, and be prepared mentally before you take that plunge. Tren is some serious stuff . Also educate yourself on the other 19-nor deca, as deca can have some sides like deca dick, before you take that on your second cycle . Test, deca, and dbol would be a good second cycle. 12 weeks on test/Deca, with the first 4-6 weeks including dbol at
Maybe 50mg a day.
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caveman72 said:
I agree learn how to control estrogen and how you react with test.maybe even start with 250 300 mg I'm telling you people east gear eat good drink alot of water 300 mg is good or 400 I hardly ever go above 400 but with other aas.I'm in the 800 to 1000. it shouldn't be a mg.contest IRS what works with less sides but still gain.
that's what takes a little bit to learn.but try you a dose nor every one else's dose
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Cool. I'll ease into it. This is a marathon, not a sprint.
 
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