Need help from feeling like crap!

ENDRO

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My doctor has requested to do blood work 14 days after my next injection with no injections in between. He would like to do cholesterol,red blood cell count, psa, thyroid, liver and testosterone levels. My question is 10 days into this the last time I did it I really start feeling tired, moody, lack of sex drive and pretty much like crap and it got worse over the 14 days is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening again that wont screw up my blood work that I listed?
 
Theresults at 14 days post injection will likely demonstrate serum androgen levels lower than before you started TRT (if your TRT has been appropriately dosed, and is not actually a steroid cycle). I do not feel it is of any value, really.

On the other hand, do not do anything without your doctor's consent. That will only further muddy the waters.
 
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SWALE said:
Theresults at 14 days post injection will likely demonstrate serum androgen levels lower than before you started TRT (if your TRT has been appropriately dosed, and is not actually a steroid cycle). I do not feel it is of any value, really.

On the other hand, do not do anything without your doctor's consent. That will only further muddy the waters.

Through the initial blood work and how I responded to the test it was decided 200 mg a week. Every year since then he has done blood work to check my liver,
cholesterol and the rest of the above, but this leaves me feeling like shit! Itried to talk to him about it once and his theory was we are just adding to what the body is producing and what we are adding is being filterd by the liver so we need to continue doing blood work once a year to make sure my liver isnt being damaged and my natural levels have not increased.
I tried to talk to him once and he got very short with me so I gave up!
 
I do not understand why he would want to test like that. And I do not think anyone who is otherwide healthy has ever suffered liver damage from TRT.

I recently had a discussion with an expert in treating AIDS patients, a former teacher of mine. He said he sees elevated LFT's in AIDS patients on TRT, though.

You inject weekly, right?
 
SWALE said:
I do not understand why he would want to test like that. And I do not think anyone who is otherwide healthy has ever suffered liver damage from TRT.

I recently had a discussion with an expert in treating AIDS patients, a former teacher of mine. He said he sees elevated LFT's in AIDS patients on TRT, though.

You inject weekly, right?
Yes I inject weekly and I have only had one sick day in the 2 1/2 years I have been on HRT.
well just a couple more days to go and let me tell you it is one thing to have your test levels lowered over several years and completly another thing to have them lowered over two weeks. I have been very tired and moody for the last couple of days and my workouts are really beginning to suck, it is hard to workout when you get so tired very easy.
He has been a really good doctor in the past and very open minded to alternative therapies but I know he is over his head when it comes to HRT.
I asked him once about HCG with my HRT and he said back, ( HCG is not proven to do anything so why would you want to use it instead of cyp or at all.)
 
SWALE said:
Why don't you take my report to him?

Is this a local GP or an Endocrinologist?

I'd advise not to speak to any GP about HRT, they GENERALLY have no idea on what's going on.

IF this is an Endocrinologist you speak of, I'd advise you to find another to suit your needs.
 
I notice a problem with the nomenclature here. "GP" stands for General Practitioner. This is a physician who is not Board Certified in any specialty, which includes Family Medicine and Internal Medicine--the Primary Care Physicians (PCP's) as they are called. I am one of the few GP left around, and I'd hazard a guess it has been a long, long time since anyone else started out a practice as a GP. "GP" and "PCP" are not interchangeable, although a GP is a PCP.

Also, it is indeed wise to ask your PCP about HRT. If nothing else, it helps to increase awareness, and hopefully, interest.
 
ENDRO said:
My doctor has requested to do blood work 14 days after my next injection with no injections in between. He would like to do cholesterol,red blood cell count, psa, thyroid, liver and testosterone levels. My question is 10 days into this the last time I did it I really start feeling tired, moody, lack of sex drive and pretty much like crap and it got worse over the 14 days is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening again that wont screw up my blood work that I listed?

I recieved my blood results in the mail yesterday and my liver values where up slightly the alaninetransferase was 40 and the alkaline was 51. I dont know if this would effect it but i had been having severe lower back pains and broke a tooth so I was popping tylanol and acetaminophen like 12 pills a day for about 4 months to kill the pain and i just stopped taking anything about three days ago because i got the problems taken care of.
hematocrit was elevated at 52
testosterone levels after 16 days with no shot came in at 421 ng/dl, which he hand wrote a not to decreas testosterone.
 
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