Why should anyone even bother to follow your "advice" when you were telling the guy what to do long before you even knew any information about him?
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need help with 6pack
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Mark Kerr
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Well Adam, lets analyze what you said, shall we? Then we will see if we are a "flock of sheep" or intelligent, reasonable individuals who happen to find flaws in your routine...
First of all, this guy would have to be a world-class athlete to do 2 hours of high-intensity cardio. If you have said a brisk walk, that would have been more reasonable (yet still difficult). To give you an idea, I do 20-30 minutes of high-intensity cardio (intervals) 2-3 times per week and I am in great shape.
2 hours of high-intensity cardio while eating only 2500 calories (which is odd that you came to this number without knowing his stats, you must be clairvoyant).
You recommended ECA PLUS 2 hours of high-intensity cardio 6 days per week without knowing his stats? What is he were 350lbs with a heart condition? Guess what smartass, you just killed a man! Not to mention he could have been 13 years old and 135lbs, and you just recommended steroids. Another wonderful piece of advice.
It is biologically impossible to lose 3-5 lbs of fat per week without losing muscle, not to mention having your lifts go up simultaneously. Maybe with 2g of Test/wk and 200mg of Tren ED, but this is by no means "light roid cycle."
Please, tell me how you take 1AD, do 2 hours of high-intensity cardio 6 days per week, lose 3-5lbs of PURE FAT every week and STILL have your lifts increase. Guess what, if you can do that, then you will be the most successful trainer in history. Every Pro Athlete will want your consultation immediately.
BTW-you are misinformed, irresponsible and a complete liar. How about you stop posting bullshit and let the adults speak? Here at Meso, we are open to intelligent discussion, but when you started being a smartass, you lost everyone's respect. Now go back to elitefitness.
First of all, this guy would have to be a world-class athlete to do 2 hours of high-intensity cardio. If you have said a brisk walk, that would have been more reasonable (yet still difficult). To give you an idea, I do 20-30 minutes of high-intensity cardio (intervals) 2-3 times per week and I am in great shape.
2 hours of high-intensity cardio while eating only 2500 calories (which is odd that you came to this number without knowing his stats, you must be clairvoyant).
You recommended ECA PLUS 2 hours of high-intensity cardio 6 days per week without knowing his stats? What is he were 350lbs with a heart condition? Guess what smartass, you just killed a man! Not to mention he could have been 13 years old and 135lbs, and you just recommended steroids. Another wonderful piece of advice.
It is biologically impossible to lose 3-5 lbs of fat per week without losing muscle, not to mention having your lifts go up simultaneously. Maybe with 2g of Test/wk and 200mg of Tren ED, but this is by no means "light roid cycle."
Please, tell me how you take 1AD, do 2 hours of high-intensity cardio 6 days per week, lose 3-5lbs of PURE FAT every week and STILL have your lifts increase. Guess what, if you can do that, then you will be the most successful trainer in history. Every Pro Athlete will want your consultation immediately.
BTW-you are misinformed, irresponsible and a complete liar. How about you stop posting bullshit and let the adults speak? Here at Meso, we are open to intelligent discussion, but when you started being a smartass, you lost everyone's respect. Now go back to elitefitness.
occam
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Okay Adam I'll respond...........I've done what you suggested at various points in my training history.......I'll not mention my weight or bf% then or now since you don't need that information to evaluate me. 
I have done in excess of two hours of a.m. cardio.........event specific training if you will, and done a 4 day p.m. strength training split all the while. Not in an attempt first and foremost to look good with my shirt off, though my caloric intact was restricted, and I was necessarily weight conscious.
The (oft) stated goal is to maintain muscle while revealing ones six pack (though that should be accomplished if our friend is truly at 10%) truthfully
there are simply more effective ways and means than those you have suggested.
If you can lose 3-5 lbs a week while setting pr's.........let me guess, your 320lbs @ 6% bf with a 740lb bench?
I just went to look over your posts and see the gentleman Kerr has adequately shellacked your 9 post non " sensei cal "ass, so I'll pull back. Adamthestud......nice name.....location........wow, at least your consistent kid.........geez, tell you what I'll give you some "roids" if you post your proof positive pic in the next 24 hours....I'm serious, I'm coming off anyway....put up or shut up.
Quedog123- the other men on this thread know more than I so I differ to them regarding your original question. Good luck to you.
I have done in excess of two hours of a.m. cardio.........event specific training if you will, and done a 4 day p.m. strength training split all the while. Not in an attempt first and foremost to look good with my shirt off, though my caloric intact was restricted, and I was necessarily weight conscious.
The (oft) stated goal is to maintain muscle while revealing ones six pack (though that should be accomplished if our friend is truly at 10%) truthfully
there are simply more effective ways and means than those you have suggested.
If you can lose 3-5 lbs a week while setting pr's.........let me guess, your 320lbs @ 6% bf with a 740lb bench?
I just went to look over your posts and see the gentleman Kerr has adequately shellacked your 9 post non " sensei cal "ass, so I'll pull back. Adamthestud......nice name.....location........wow, at least your consistent kid.........geez, tell you what I'll give you some "roids" if you post your proof positive pic in the next 24 hours....I'm serious, I'm coming off anyway....put up or shut up.
Quedog123- the other men on this thread know more than I so I differ to them regarding your original question. Good luck to you.
I agree with you mark on this one but I still belive that strentgh can be increased whiles weight is dropped. I find that when I amdietying my diet is a hell of lot cleaner and I seem to gain in all my lifts. I think strentgh more tdoewn to your training program not what you eat. But i must agree doing 2-3 hours of HITT will cerinatly hit the body recovery. Light cardio improver stentgh but 2 hours must only make you weaker. Even Marathoner runners don'tdo two hours a day for christ sake and look at the lack of thier muscle mass
Mark Kerr
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oarkinsm said:
Oh, yeah, in some cases one can increase strength while losing fat. I have done it myself on several occassions.
What I was saying is that this guy (Adam) wouldnt be able to increase strength while doing 2 hours of high-intensity cardio 6 days a week, while eating 2500 cal. Not unless he was taking an OBSCENE amount of AAS.
AdamTheStud
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You recommended ECA PLUS 2 hours of high-intensity cardio 6 days per week without knowing his stats? What is he were 350lbs with a heart condition? Guess what smartass, you just killed a man! Not to mention he could have been 13 years old and 135lbs, and you just recommended steroids. Another wonderful piece of advice.
If he was 350lbs. with a heart condition I don't think he would have been asking for advice about getting a six pack LOL
If he was 350lbs. with a heart condition I don't think he would have been asking for advice about getting a six pack LOL
quedog123
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occam said:Okay Adam I'll respond...........I've done what you suggested at various points in my training history.......I'll not mention my weight or bf% then or now since you don't need that information to evaluate me.
I have done in excess of two hours of a.m. cardio.........event specific training if you will, and done a 4 day p.m. strength training split all the while. Not in an attempt first and foremost to look good with my shirt off, though my caloric intact was restricted, and I was necessarily weight conscious.
The (oft) stated goal is to maintain muscle while revealing ones six pack (though that should be accomplished if our friend is truly at 10%) truthfully
there are simply more effective ways and means than those you have suggested.
If you can lose 3-5 lbs a week while setting pr's.........let me guess, your 320lbs @ 6% bf with a 740lb bench?
I just went to look over your posts and see the gentleman Kerr has adequately shellacked your 9 post non " sensei cal "ass, so I'll pull back. Adamthestud......nice name.....location........wow, at least your consistent kid.........geez, tell you what I'll give you some "roids" if you post your proof positive pic in the next 24 hours....I'm serious, I'm coming off anyway....put up or shut up.
Quedog123- the other men on this thread know more than I so I differ to them regarding your original question. Good luck to you.
thanx occam, if you are saying that if i have 10% i should proly already have a six pack? i said in my post i am not exactly sure of my body fat i think i am around 12%-13% with what you said given my abs are only on shot aways from being totally visibel just need a lil bit of fat to melt away and just work on some definition so if at 10% i would have abs then i would say honestly i must be around 12-13
quedog123
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AdamTheStud said:
you never no dude especially online some people are weird like that
Hogg
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AdamTheStud said:
Ummm, have you ever considered the number of fatasses that come to these boards looking to become skinny? The number is at least equal to the number of skinny guys that come to these boards looking to get big.
As far as bodyfat, 4-5% is contest ready, 7-8% is good enough to model underwear, at 10, abs are visible with perhaps only slight lack of clarity over the lowers, at 12-13, the uppers are there but there is a marked ring around the lowers, and at 15, you're smooth. That is bodyfat in a nutshell.
