Need insight oral or injectable ?

[Eup]

Sup peeps,
I'm over 50 now and I only run HRT but I was going to throw in a short 8-12 week cycle.
Need help deciding?
I'm currently in 175 - 200mg test for the last 3 years I'm happy where I am . I wanted to either add more test to my cycle to do a small cycle like 300-500mg test e. Or I was thinking of just adding an oral specifically anavar les toxic I know and passes through twice but any input?
I'm attempting a mild short cycle..
Or really is it negligible and they probably about the same I'm thinking ? I want easy rebound.

Thanks.

 

[Evom1]

With hrt, there's no rebound. You just go back to hrt and you're normal. It's not like coming off cycle and doing pct

Id just bump up the test. But 25-50mg anavar per day for 4-6 weeks would be ok with like 200mg test and see how you do

 

[DECLAN]

Have you look into primobolan? Slow, steady gains that barely affects the health markers.

Lots of older folks talk about avoiding orals since at that age range their lipids are easily affected compared to younger folks.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Eup]

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With hrt, there's no rebound. You just go back to hrt and you're normal. It's not like coming off cycle and doing pct

Id just bump up the test. But 25-50mg anavar per day for 4-6 weeks would be ok with like 200mg test and see how you do

was thinking the same running Var 50-100 I think health markers would be good and highly anabolic need a boost in libido. I have been trying for 3 years to get libido back to old self but you know it's hard with old age. I ran primo for years I have mixed feelings on that I felt like the dosages had to be fairly high for me to get any gains or cutting at all. Test e is like a ringer it can do it all a little bit of size and strength, and I'm not prone to gyno or need ai's, but it's more androgenic so water are more obvious. Really it's all about health I know all you kids love running 1-2 grams a week for years but trust me a lot of guys I know pretty much are dead after 50 (mostly heart conditions) with non stop use like that.

 

[Evom1]

No need to go passed 50mg of var. I don't even go passed that in contest prep

Especially if health is a concern

 

[effswithtren]

No need to go passed 50mg of var. I don't even go passed that in contest prep

Especially if health is a concern

Yeah, more tends to do more, but it seems like there’s a pretty sharp drop off around 50mg for anavar. If I wanted more effect I’d add in winstrol instead of dosing the Var higher.

 

[Deadp007]

Anavar at 100mg would probably hammer your liver. You'd get nice strength increases though.
I did 68mg day & it was too rough on my liver.

 

[Eup]

Anavar at 100mg would probably hammer your liver. You'd get nice strength increases though.
I did 68mg day & it was too rough on my liver.

What would be a good dose of var that won't beat your liver up?

 

[Whopperflopper]

Keep it simple, you already have the test, go with your original thoughts. Up to 500 a week will give you that boost.

 

[Deadp007]

What would be a good dose of var that won't beat your liver up?

I'd listen to @Evom1 &/or @Whopperflopper

 

[narta]

Sup peeps,
I'm over 50 now and I only run HRT but I was going to throw in a short 8-12 week cycle.
Need help deciding?
I'm currently in 175 - 200mg test for the last 3 years I'm happy where I am . I wanted to either add more test to my cycle to do a small cycle like 300-500mg test e. Or I was thinking of just adding an oral specifically anavar les toxic I know and passes through twice but any input?
I'm attempting a mild short cycle..
Or really is it negligible and they probably about the same I'm thinking ? I want easy rebound.

Thanks.

Up the test slowly. Titrate up or down after 2 weeks until you can feel good with no added side effects or minimal at most.

 

[Rido]

I would post most blood work including test/e2

Post your stats
Height, weight, bodyfat
Lifting experience

 

[DECLAN]

Up the test slowly. Titrate up or down after 2 weeks until you can feel good with no added side effects or minimal at most.

This was taught by most old school bodybuilders, up the dose to break through plateaus at the same time.

 

[narta]

This was taught by most old school bodybuilders, up the dose to break through plateaus at the same time.

Yes but my method is titrating up untill you find the upper dosage that you can comfortable use for one single base compound (manly test) and THEN hit other pathways.

If I knew that decades ago, today I would need maybe half the dosages to cycle properly. Not that I am a heavy user but in my age less is more

 

[Eup]

I think Narta got the best method and yes that was my original plan but the 'em contemplated orals, but like someone pointed out I don't want to kill my liver and kidneys with orals if not necessary.

What's a good dosing schedule thinking about an extra 100mg a week till I get at least to 500mg?
It's funny I'm a pro a running high dosages for years but when running low doses I can barely feel it so I have to decide how high to go and how long to run it?

What you guys think 8 weeks - 12 weeks or longer ?
Dosage cap ? 500mg 750-800mg ? Or higher ?

I was thinking somewhere between 500-750mg.
The thing is when you're old like me you have to get it dialed in not too much to limited sides and health, not worried about gyno. I just want to make sure I can titrate down gently and then effectively.

I also forgot to mention doing 2-3 iu GH a day about 5 days a week (unlimited supply of pharma and generics) for about 10 years. Dosages over 3iu I get some swelling. What do you think is a good point of diminishing returns in ratio to gear amount usage? Do you think I should up GH ? I was thinking by maybe up it a little bit ?

Thanks peeps

 

[narta]

I think Narta got the best method and yes that was my original plan but the 'em contemplated orals, but like someone pointed out I don't want to kill my liver and kidneys with orals if not necessary.

What's a good dosing schedule thinking about an extra 100mg a week till I get at least to 500mg?
It's funny I'm a pro a running high dosages for years but when running low doses I can barely feel it so I have to decide how high to go and how long to run it?

What you guys think 8 weeks - 12 weeks or longer ?
Dosage cap ? 500mg 750-800mg ? Or higher ?

I was thinking somewhere between 500-750mg.
The thing is when you're old like me you have to get it dialed in not too much to limited sides and health, not worried about gyno. I just want to make sure I can titrate down gently and then effectively.

I also forgot to mention doing 2-3 iu GH a day about 5 days a week (unlimited supply of pharma and generics) for about 10 years. Dosages over 3iu I get some swelling. What do you think is a good point of diminishing returns in ratio to gear amount usage? Do you think I should up GH ? I was thinking by maybe up it a little bit ?

Thanks peeps

Titrate every 3 weeks. Start at 300mg, wait for any adverse effects and push up. When side effects start to kick in, step back 50mg, wait a week, asses and adjust from there till you find that sweet spot that is going to give you max dosage with no or little sides. Drop down to trt for like 3 months or your bloods to come in range and hit again.

You may need to run 2 or 3 cycles before you find that sweet spot. But then you have the base and can play from there. Add another compound, DHT derivative or 19-nor if you can handle it. Find the dosage you are happy and with the least possible sides for the combination and then if you want hit the other pathway.

It's a process.