Need some advice please

[Hueghe]

I just got the results back from my 7 week blood work. It looks like my Alt and Ast levels are still rising a bit (4 weeks in my Alt was 42 ref 0-40, Ast 48 ref 0-44) my Alt level is now 59 0-40 ref, and Ast is 79 0-44 ref..this is 7 weeks in.

Also Luteinizing Hormone and FSH serum were flagged low: LH <.02 range 1.7-8.6
FSH <.02 ref 1.5-12.4. My estradiol is also elevated even though i'm seeing no symptoms. Estradiol: 71.7 range 7.6-42.6.
Any input would be appreciated, thanks guys.

 

[Gunrunner]

I just got the results back from my 7 week blood work. It looks like my Alt and Ast levels are still rising a bit (4 weeks in my Alt was 42 ref 0-40, Ast 48 ref 0-44) my Alt level is now 59 0-40 ref, and Ast is 79 0-44 ref..this is 7 weeks in.

Also Luteinizing Hormone and FSH serum were flagged low: LH <.02 range 1.7-8.6
FSH <.02 ref 1.5-12.4. My estradiol is also elevated even though i'm seeing no symptoms. Estradiol: 71.7 range 7.6-42.6.
Any input would be appreciated, thanks guys.

What are you on now? What is TT level?

 

[Hueghe]

I'm on 500 mg/week of test c. My total test level 3 weeks ago was 1300 (starting point was 210). For my last blood work results, the results were inconclusive for the total test levels.

 

[Gunrunner]

I just got the results back from my 7 week blood work. It looks like my Alt and Ast levels are still rising a bit (4 weeks in my Alt was 42 ref 0-40, Ast 48 ref 0-44) my Alt level is now 59 0-40 ref, and Ast is 79 0-44 ref..this is 7 weeks in.

Also Luteinizing Hormone and FSH serum were flagged low: LH <.02 range 1.7-8.6
FSH <.02 ref 1.5-12.4. My estradiol is also elevated even though i'm seeing no symptoms. Estradiol: 71.7 range 7.6-42.6.
Any input would be appreciated, thanks guys.

Ok, so your ALT, AST are elevated. I'm going to assume you have no labs before the cycle to show they were in range. Mine were also elevated and I had to greatly reduce alcohol consumption down to 1-2 drinks a week; no alcohol would be better for you, start drinking a lot of water (not soda or cool-aid) I added N-Acetyl Cysteine 600mg - 60 Capsules - Supplements, and choline/inositol tabs. I use oral gear but very sparingly. This brough my levles down to within range. Some will say it was removing the alochol that did it and I won't argue, i'm just telling you everything I did.

Your LH and FSH are where they are because you are shut down from the gear. This is to be expected and should return to normal after PCT.

You Estradiol is a little high and could cause bloat and gyno. I'm not a doctor but if it were me personally I would start with .25mg of dex EOD and 5mg Nolva EOD. Keep an eye out for gyno and high E2 symptoms and increase dex and tamo if symptoms get worse. Have plenty of Nolva and Dex on hand.

 

[Hueghe]

Actually i did get pre cycle labs, and my Alt level was in the 20's which is within normal range. I have not been drinking alcohol at all this whole cycle. I was going to start taking the .25 mg of dex eod a couple of weeks ago due to your advice, but i decided to hold off on that since i haven't noticed any symptoms of gyno or bloating at all.

At this point I'm considering stopping my cycle early, i don't want to damage my liver. I'll give the N-acetyl cystein capsules a try, i'm currently taking about 300 mg of milk thistle a day (started about a week ago). I appreciate your input man.

 

[Gunrunner]

How many weeks left in your cycle? You levels are only slightly out of range so I would take that into consideration. For my last cycle my ALT (SGPT) went up to 54 and returned to 26 after PCT was completed and that was when I was still drinking. Stoping drinking did help lower my total cholesterol. If no other issues I would stay on cycle, but you have to do what you feel is best for you.

Your Estradiol level is telling you that you have to start the Dex or some AI. The blood test don't lie (usually). Don't wait until you're a bloated guy with boobs to start the dex. Do it now! I would also start the Tamo now.

 

[Gunrunner]

Here is a good thread to read to keep this in perspective and gather some more info. This is one of our bros and his ALT was very high.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/134344893

 

[pittbox]

Yeah I don't think 42 and 48 are really much to worry about.
Alt and ast are always something you want to keep an eye on though.

 

[Hueghe]

Yea, it looks like i may be overreacting a bit. I was just a bit alarmed at seeing those levels continue to rise. I'm going on week 8, so I'm going to finish my 12 weeks cycle at this point. The only reason that i have held off on taking the liquid dex is because I'm worried about putting even more strain on my liver. How hard is dex on the liver?

 

[BR1217]

Its wise to be concerned with these numbers but don't freak out. I almost lost my mind when I got my test results back with the elevated levels. Dr Scally really help to put things in perspective and I am very thankful for him. This board is very fortunate to have him as a go to medical doc. My advice would be to do exactly what Dr Scally had me do, do not take this lightly. I also agree with Gunrunner regarding the water intake. I forgot to mention that my daily water intake since the test has been 120+ ounces a day. No dark soda, tea, etc. The only other liquid I intake is milk and juice. My urine is clear as water now, not so much a couple months ago. Anyway, be encouraged that your liver is an amazing organ with the ability to heal quickly if you will do a few basic things. Take care of yourself and you will be fine.

 

[skywalk]

I just got the results back from my 7 week blood work. It looks like my Alt and Ast levels are still rising a bit (4 weeks in my Alt was 42 ref 0-40, Ast 48 ref 0-44) my Alt level is now 59 0-40 ref, and Ast is 79 0-44 ref..this is 7 weeks in.

Also Luteinizing Hormone and FSH serum were flagged low: LH <.02 range 1.7-8.6
FSH <.02 ref 1.5-12.4. My estradiol is also elevated even though i'm seeing no symptoms. Estradiol: 71.7 range 7.6-42.6.
Any input would be appreciated, thanks guys.

sorry bro but what the hell did you expect? you're on week 7 of 500mg test per week. if you had measured your Cholesterol values, you'd see that they would have been affected from the very first pin, and if you do any kind of bloodwork, those are the numbers you'd expect to see.

your E2 is a bit high so I recommend increasing your AI dose. you mentioned you have adex, so please use it.

your LH/FSH will not normalize till after your PCT so don't bother with those for now.

your liver values are a tad high but nothing to worry about. are you on any orals?
expect them to stay elevated throughout your cycle. finish PCT, wait a month, then redo all your blood tests.

 

[Hueghe]

Honestly man i thought that injectable test bypassed the liver for the most part. So when my Alt/Ast levels started rising, it kind of alerted me since I'm not taking any orals. This is my first cycle so I'm still a bit nervous/anxious about it. Thanks bro's for all the replies, I'm going to just start my adex asap to get those estrogen levels down.

Okay first dose of the liquid dex done.. .25 mg, from here I'll go eod for that. mmm bubble gum..lol