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Hi Everyone,

37/M here. Grew up a fatty, and finally am getting my shit together and I stumbled across this forum in search of ways to bring my body to where it SHOULD have been had I not grown up a fatty. I have lots to learn.

"Eat less, move more" - yup. Problem is that when you're fat and you successfully lose weight doing that - eventually you hit a wall where you keep the same diet but stop losing weight or even start gaining weight. I found I wasn't able to keep up - cutting calories, switching macros to proteins, and having to spend more and more time in the gym, running, etc before it was all too much. I was waking at 5am, I'd run for a few hours, go to work at 7:30 (shower there), get home at 6, hit the gym. I began waking up earlier. I began staying at the gym longer. I switched trainers. I just ran out of time each day.

Here's what's wrong with me: Due to a congenital heart problem, I was sheltered from all sports as a kid. My parents wouldn't let me go to the gym, and it was frustrating to be 18-19 at my cardiologist and the new guy (who I still go to) was like "you can do whatever you want, just stop if you feel true exhaustion" (and luckily I know that limit).

So as a kid, under this doughy exterior, I have twigs for bones. Thin bark for muscles. Since I grew up not doing much of anything, I made very little use of my testosterone as a pubescent kid, and every earnest attempt at hitting the gym (daily, for a year some time ago), even with guidance, resulted in no real gains to write home about. No amount of nutrition, changing up how I do my reps - ANYTHING made me do much more than grow a tiny bit of muscle and lose weight.

So - I need help from other sources. I learned that with proper TRT and exercise, I can break past the locked in "memory" my muscles always are stuck at. I can grow lean mass. Doughy kids that turn into doughy adults NEVER turn it around without things like TRT. I'm here to do that or else I'm destined for an early grave. Now that I'm not too heavy to hurt myself stepping up my exercise, I'm ready to work, and in order for that work to pay off, I'm ready to supplement.
 
Hi Everyone,

37/M here. Grew up a fatty, and finally am getting my shit together and I stumbled across this forum in search of ways to bring my body to where it SHOULD have been had I not grown up a fatty. I have lots to learn.

"Eat less, move more" - yup. Problem is that when you're fat and you successfully lose weight doing that - eventually you hit a wall where you keep the same diet but stop losing weight or even start gaining weight. I found I wasn't able to keep up - cutting calories, switching macros to proteins, and having to spend more and more time in the gym, running, etc before it was all too much. I was waking at 5am, I'd run for a few hours, go to work at 7:30 (shower there), get home at 6, hit the gym. I began waking up earlier. I began staying at the gym longer. I switched trainers. I just ran out of time each day.

Here's what's wrong with me: Due to a congenital heart problem, I was sheltered from all sports as a kid. My parents wouldn't let me go to the gym, and it was frustrating to be 18-19 at my cardiologist and the new guy (who I still go to) was like "you can do whatever you want, just stop if you feel true exhaustion" (and luckily I know that limit).

So as a kid, under this doughy exterior, I have twigs for bones. Thin bark for muscles. Since I grew up not doing much of anything, I made very little use of my testosterone as a pubescent kid, and every earnest attempt at hitting the gym (daily, for a year some time ago), even with guidance, resulted in no real gains to write home about. No amount of nutrition, changing up how I do my reps - ANYTHING made me do much more than grow a tiny bit of muscle and lose weight.

So - I need help from other sources. I learned that with proper TRT and exercise, I can break past the locked in "memory" my muscles always are stuck at. I can grow lean mass. Doughy kids that turn into doughy adults NEVER turn it around without things like TRT. I'm here to do that or else I'm destined for an early grave. Now that I'm not too heavy to hurt myself stepping up my exercise, I'm ready to work, and in order for that work to pay off, I'm ready to supplement.
No one here does source handouts. You should really read and decide for yourself, instead of taking anyone's words. They could be recommending a scammer and you wouldn't know.

Recommend you look thru threads in the Steroid underground section, spend hours reading the last page going forward. You should find someone you yourself feel comfortable with. Welcome to meso.
 
No one here does source handouts. You should really read and decide for yourself, instead of taking anyone's words. They could be recommending a scammer and you wouldn't know.

Recommend you look thru threads in the Steroid underground section, spend hours reading the last page going forward. You should find someone you yourself feel comfortable with. Welcome to meso.
I've been creeping in Steroid Underground for a few months doing exactly what you say - look for reactions, recommendations, scammers, etc. Thanks!
 
Due to a congenital heart problem
If I understand you correctly, improving your health is prime motivator for you per your stated desire to "avoid an early grave".

But I'm not clear if your cardiologist prescribes and monitors your "proper TRT"?

Or has your cardiologist not signed off on TRT? Is TRT something that you've yet to do? Are looking to self-medicate?

Adverse cardiovascular consequences are one of the most common risks associated with non-medical AAS use in healthy adults.

"Congenital heart problem" sounds like a major contraindication for non-medical AAS use.

Whatever your decision, I think your cardiologist should be informed to monitor your health.
 
He told me to get my
If I understand you correctly, improving your health is prime motivator for you per your stated desire to "avoid an early grave".

But I'm not clear if your cardiologist prescribes and monitors your "proper TRT"?

Or has your cardiologist not signed off on TRT? Is TRT something that you've yet to do? Are looking to self-medicate?

Adverse cardiovascular consequences are one of the most common risks associated with non-medical AAS use in healthy adults.

"Congenital heart problem" sounds like a major contraindication for non-medical AAS use.

Whatever your decision, I think your cardiologist should be informed to monitor your health.

I genuinely appreciate the concerns.

My heart issues are not related to atherosclerosis or the typical coronary/stroke/blood pressure issues that arise with TRT. They are, however, exacerbated by obesity (e.g. having my heart work HARD 24/7 rather than light 20 hours and moderate/high over the other 4 hours).

Now - I've been able to keep my cholesterol levels in check (somehow) and my EKGs show no signs of any sort of coronary plaque buildup (no surefire sign, but better than the doctor saying my EKG suggests buildup). My biggest concern at my age is is being among the dozen or so friends/family who've dropped dead of heart attacks before 45. So far, I'm lucky that my risk is low, but I figure those tables can turn.

It won't stay that way forever. I need to work hard now, and I need to make sure that future hard work keeps me healthy. Everything I do is an investment into my future.

I have a pig valve, and in order to keep from needing another replacement (it's not inevitable, but high likelihood in general), I need to strengthen my heart through aerobic exercise, and lose (and keep off) weight. In order to keep off the weight, I need to build a higher volume of lean muscle than I've ever had in my life or it'll just be another yo-yo.

My cardiologist is okay with me consulting with a endocrinologist about TRT because my condition isn't the type that's exacerbated by any type of androgen therapy. He only told me to not get carried away unless my first tests show bottom-basement-levels. That's fine - I'm okay with consulting with a clinic, finding what's right for me and going from there.

I'm here to see all my options as well as to see what other therapies would help me achieve what I want when I'm back in the gym. I want to see what works for others, and if I do start a cycle with a clinic, I want access to every bit of information possible, every PCT option available, and every bit of advice from people who know better than me.

I've also been doing peptide therapy for a little while now, and I really want to be able to interact with suppliers to be able to buy in bulk while managing the risk of getting bunk product.
 

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