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[Optedex]

Hello Everyone. I'm a new member to MesoRX but I've dabbled in a lot of natty+ compounds before. I'm hoping to start my first real cycle coming up in the spring, I have a lot to learn from the wealth of knowledge here.

I've been lifting for about 5 years now, currently sitting at 5'10 168lbs, likely 13-15% body fat. I'm hoping to lean out a solid bit more, closer to 10%, before hopping on.

 

[Billbo98]

I’d recommend the opposite of you cutting but actually eating and trying to put on some muscle naturally. 5-10 you should aim to hit at least 180 as a natty before hopping on any gear.

 

[Optedex]

I’d recommend the opposite of you cutting but actually eating and trying to put on some muscle naturally. 5-10 you should aim to hit at least 180 as a natty before hopping on any gear.

Thanks for the consideration. I've thought about going into a surplus too but it's almost summer time and I'm too vain not to have that summer shred lol.

 

[Billbo98]

Thanks for the consideration. I've thought about going into a surplus too but it's almost summer time and I'm too vain not to have that summer shred lol.

Bro if your not “shredded” at the weight your at now no point in cutting more and looking like a starving child in a third world country at God knows what weight you need to be in order to be “shredded”. Chicks don’t dig the starving child look

 

[Optedex]

Bro if your not “shredded” at the weight your at now no point in cutting more and looking like a starving child in a third world country at God knows what weight you need to be in order to be “shredded”. Chicks don’t dig the starving child look

I am fairly shredded at this weight right now, I have some ab and shoulder veins, it's just that my quads and glutes hold onto the majority of my fat, hence the ~13% bf. My upper body could be mistaken for 10-11%. I'm not too worried about "looking" leaner right now, I just want the optimal hormonal conditions for when I do hop on, ie not too much fat for aromatization or dulled insulin sensitivity.

 

[Billbo98]

I am fairly shredded at this weight right now, I have some ab and shoulder veins, it's just that my quads and glutes hold onto the majority of my fat, hence the ~13% bf. My upper body could be mistaken for 10-11%. I'm not too worried about "looking" leaner right now, I just want the optimal hormonal conditions for when I do hop on, ie not too much fat for aromatization or dulled insulin sensitivity.

If you have ab veins currently your lean enough. Tf you wanna be contest prep ready? FFS.

 

[Optedex]

If you have ab veins currently your lean enough. Tf you wanna be contest prep ready? FFS.

Haha certainly not contest prep ready, just wanting to loose a little more fluff around the quads and glutes is all. The ab vascularity is definitely a genetic thing as well, I was still able to see them while at ~16-17%.

 

[Billbo98]

Whatever bro. Your lean enough for anabolics bur you should try to add some mass before using. Your small is what I’m getting at and you wanna push your potential as much as possible before shutting yourself down for life

 

[Optedex]

I would like to get a bigger as well, hence why I'm interested in hopping on. What have your experiences with PEDs been like to advise more natty lifting before entering into a well-researched cycle?

Whatever bro. Your lean enough for anabolics bur you should try to add some mass before using. Your small is what I’m getting at and you wanna push your potential as much as possible before shutting yourself down for life

 

[Billbo98]

I would like to get a bigger as well, hence why I'm interested in hopping on. What have your experiences with PEDs been like to advise more natty lifting before entering into a well-researched cycle?

I was 245lbs and strong before I hopped on gear. I weighed as much as you do now in the beginning of the 9th grade. You need to take a hard look at your training and food intake before you do any gear. You get bigger from food. Gear helps yes but food does the heavy lifting of building muscle and strength. Too many ignorant people on these forums think gear is how you get big. Look at all the retards running gear who look like they don’t even lift.

 

[Optedex]

I was 245lbs and strong before I hopped on gear. I weighed as much as you do now in the beginning of the 9th grade. You need to take a hard look at your training and food intake before you do any gear. You get bigger from food. Gear helps yes but food does the heavy lifting of building muscle and strength. Too many ignorant people on these forums think gear is how you get big. Look at all the retards running gear who look like they don’t even lift.

I don't think I could personally look good at 200+ lean 5'10 haha. I also weighed more than I do now in the 9th grade but I was 20%+ body fat. What are your stats like now post PEDs?