Whats up new guy here. Been working out for about 8yrs and finally decided to run my first cycle. My current weights at 230 with around 20%body fat at 5'11 my cycle will an 8week cycle and consist of dbol at 25mg daily for 6weeks and test e at 250/wk for the last 2weeks ill be taking nova along with the dbol just to makensure i dont get any gyno. What do you guys think any input is highly appreciated. Added a current picture .. I really wannna blow the fukkk up and keep it as safe as possible and kinda on a budget wanna try and keep it at around 350USD$ a cycle
MESO-Rx
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Welcome, so you're going to run dbol for 6 weeks and no test until you drop the dbol!?
Terrible idea, I would suggest running a test only cycle at 500mgs a week..
Terrible idea, I would suggest running a test only cycle at 500mgs a week..
BigGuy1888
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I agree with Xragexx, Test E for your first cycle @ 500mg/wk for 12 weeks. Shoot 250mg every Monday and Thursday to keep your days straight. I'd add adex .5mg eod for estrogen control. Be sure to have your PCT in place also - don't want to lose everything you gain.
Welcome to Mesorx brother. Bad cycle though. 500-600mg test e or cyp every week. Lose the dbol. Your levels will be much more stable. Your gains will be amazing.
Using Nolva througout your cycle isn't a bad idea with the bf you are carring. e2 may be a problem, and using a serm you are much safer than trying to dial in an AI.
Using Nolva througout your cycle isn't a bad idea with the bf you are carring. e2 may be a problem, and using a serm you are much safer than trying to dial in an AI.
I was reading threw forms the others day on here and there were talking about people first cycles n what they recommended and some guy posted a link and recommended for all newbies to takeba loon at it. 3 Beginner Steroid Cycles That Will Pack on Muscle Fast! so i did n on the site they have 3 diffrent bigger cycle n i saw this one which was an 8week cyce with the test e n dbol and the source were i got the test n dbol was having a blackfriday sale so i was quickbtobtake advantage and just order what the 8week cycle needed. I wissh i wpuld of made tgis post early to gear this. Sp im working with 100 10mg dbol tabs and 20ml of 250mg test e wich if im correct will only be enough for a 10week cycle.. Is there any way i could use the dbol in this cycle or should i just store it n use it for a future cycle. As for pct the site recommend Clomid 50mg daily for 20days 14days after the lest shot.. Whats the best first cycle you guys think i could just with 20ml of test e 250mg and 100 10mg dbol tabs (if able to use for this cycle) and what do ypu guys think about thr pct..im new to this so i wanna learn everything
I would recommend holding on to the dbol for a future cycle and just simply running test e @500mgs a week. If you have 20ml you should have plenty for that but it never hurts to have an extra 10ml on hand in case you were to drop a vial and it break
Awsome thats what im going to do i plan on eating a fuk load and keeping it as clean as possible and train insain!!!! What kind of gainzz could i expect form a 12week 500mg/wk cycle
oldmusclemike
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Welcome to the board !
Anytime you introduce exogenous hormones to your body it will shut down. Be it little or be it much you will shut down and have the need to induce Testosterone for your system so it has what it needs.
You need a better education on what you are about to embark on. The fact that you want to use Nolva for your AI protocol or plug in "in case of Gyno" is all wrong.
An 8 week cycle IMOP is too short. Your Test will not really start to kick in at week 5. You will begin some side effects and an increase in appetite n energy but the real synthesis and synergism would not get going for several weeks.
With Test and Dbol you need to run an AI like Adex not Nolva. Gyno is only but one unwanted side effect from high Estradiol (E2). There is a host of more as well as the sides from Low E2. You need to understand the enzyme of Aromatase.
Study up on Estrogen , Prolactin and Progesterone which will all change with the use of most compounds. How to control these things and hence what your blood work will tell you.
Regroup and learn more and change your cycle protocol , cause this aint no good. Really no reason to use Dbol first cycle. AND never run Dbol or any other compounds without Testosterone. You will shut down and need to supplement your Testosterone...
AAS use # 101.
Anytime you introduce exogenous hormones to your body it will shut down. Be it little or be it much you will shut down and have the need to induce Testosterone for your system so it has what it needs.
You need a better education on what you are about to embark on. The fact that you want to use Nolva for your AI protocol or plug in "in case of Gyno" is all wrong.
An 8 week cycle IMOP is too short. Your Test will not really start to kick in at week 5. You will begin some side effects and an increase in appetite n energy but the real synthesis and synergism would not get going for several weeks.
With Test and Dbol you need to run an AI like Adex not Nolva. Gyno is only but one unwanted side effect from high Estradiol (E2). There is a host of more as well as the sides from Low E2. You need to understand the enzyme of Aromatase.
Study up on Estrogen , Prolactin and Progesterone which will all change with the use of most compounds. How to control these things and hence what your blood work will tell you.
Regroup and learn more and change your cycle protocol , cause this aint no good. Really no reason to use Dbol first cycle. AND never run Dbol or any other compounds without Testosterone. You will shut down and need to supplement your Testosterone...
AAS use # 101.
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This is the kind of reply i was really hoping to get. Thanks im new and ive been non stop reading decided just going to go with a 10week 500mg a week of just test e im deff reading a ton and probably wont start the cycle for another 3weeks to give me time and absorb everything i can from you guys i dont wanna fuk my self up just tryna make some gainzzzWelcome to the board !
You need a better education on what you are about to embark on. The fact that you want to use Nolva for your AI protocol or plug in "in case of Gyno" is all wrong.
An 8 week cycle IMOP is too short. Your Test will not really start to kick in at week 5. You will begin some side effects and an increase in appetite n energy but the real synthesis and synergism would not get going for several weeks.
With Test and Dbol you need to run an AI like Adex not Nolva. Gyno is only but one unwanted side effect from high Estradiol (E2). There is a host of more as well as the sides from Low E2. You need to understand the enzyme of Aromatase.
Study up on Estrogen , Prolactin and Progesterone which will all change with the use of most compounds. How to control these things and hence what your blood work will tell you.
Regroup and learn more and change your cycle protocol , cause this aint no good. Really no reason to use Dbol first cycle. AND never run Dbol or any other compounds without Testosterone. You will shut down and need to supplement your Testosterone...
AAS use # 101.
oldmusclemike
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I hope you stick with what you say. Test at 500mgs wk for a min of 10 wks is a great cycle. Do it right, the protocol, diet, training and sleep and work your ass off. The Test is only helping you reach farther your potential, of "what you are doing". It's the increased metabolism and synthesis process of chaining protein to muscle at a faster and more efficient rate. So it isn't a magic pill and it's not the Test, Deca, Dbol, Tren that doses it... yep it's still up to you. Don't get hung up on the "Cycle"
Get all your gear for cycle and PCT before you start this. Oh, AND money for Blood work. Uncontrolled Estrogen can ruin a cycle so what about BW?
Get all your gear for cycle and PCT before you start this. Oh, AND money for Blood work. Uncontrolled Estrogen can ruin a cycle so what about BW?
I most likly will be loggin the whole cycle for any input you guys may have.. As for pct what would you recommended... Deff goning to be saving up for blood work.. With the blood work how often would you recommend get blood work done
Pre, mid, and post
oldmusclemike
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As far as PCT I cannot advise. See my profile and so years ago there was no such thing or internet to help. Now I'm old and have much to deal with sooooo I don't do PCT. You need it.
You should get pre-bloods for a base line, now, then at 5 weeks but that would be standard without considerations of a problem.
You should get pre-bloods for a base line, now, then at 5 weeks but that would be standard without considerations of a problem.
