New to forum and looking for advice on first cycle

[Omega77]

I'm 38 and I used to be 200lb (I'm 6'0"), played ball in HS and college and lifted regularly. For the last 10 years have competed as an endurance athlete (160lb) and now have been back into slow building for the last year (now 175lb). I'm aiming towards men's Physique Competition and I've taken time to lift, build a base and but I still run and cycle and would like to keep up with those activities, though obviously not as a competitor and not as much volume as in the past.

2 weeks ago I started taking:

• 1cc of 450 which is a blend of 250mg Test E and 200mg Deca every Sunday and Thursday
• 100mcg of ghrp-2 only 1x daily
• Anastrozole will begin on the 4th week. How much should I take?

The biggest thing I notice is that my resting HR went from 44 beats to 58 beats and when I run or cycle is about 14-15 beats higher on average than normal. How can I get this down?

Is this a good first cycle?
How long can I go on this cycle?
What's a good pct?

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Welcome to Meso...

I'm no M.D., just a guy that sticks pins in his ass...so I will let some of our older more knowledgeable field the heart rate question. I know from my personal experience my blood pressure is often elevated on cycle, however I don't if there is any proven good correlation between BP and resting heart rate. Others will be along shortly, @Oregongearhead may be able to shine some light on that.

Now...you are gonna catch some flack here b/c 2 weeks into a cycle is a bad time to decide if you have a good cycle layout, and a TERRIBLE time to start researching AI and PCT dosing protocols. With that being said, no I don't particular like your cycle and here is why. Deca is extremely suppressive and hard to bounce back from, and even harder at your age. I would think that if you plan on continuing to uses AAS and PED's you should consider HRT b/c cycling would likely end you up there quickly anyways....might as well avoid the negative symptoms and sides.

 

[Oregongearhead]

- thanks TEK - I keep Metoprolol (Beta-blocker) on hand for high BP . Works the best for me ....Goodluck

 

[Omega77]

Welcome to Meso...

I'm no M.D., just a guy that sticks pins in his ass...so I will let some of our older more knowledgeable field the heart rate question. I know from my personal experience my blood pressure is often elevated on cycle, however I don't if there is any proven good correlation between BP and resting heart rate. Others will be along shortly, @Oregongearhead may be able to shine some light on that.

Now...you are gonna catch some flack here b/c 2 weeks into a cycle is a bad time to decide if you have a good cycle layout, and a TERRIBLE time to start researching AI and PCT dosing protocols. With that being said, no I don't particular like your cycle and here is why. Deca is extremely suppressive and hard to bounce back from, and even harder at your age. I would think that if you plan on continuing to uses AAS and PED's you should consider HRT b/c cycling would likely end you up there quickly anyways....might as well avoid the negative symptoms and sides.

Thanks TEK. I figured I'd catch some flack but I came on here looking to get some advice from experienced users. The reason why I'm asking 2 weeks in is because I had received advice to use this cycle from someone I know who has been a bit experienced in this for the past few years but now I'm questioning his advice, and like many new users, should have done a lot more research to begin with. I thought I had all the info I needed from him and then as I start researching a bit more I realize I should have had a PCT ready and I should have asked more info on a proper cycle.

So if I decide to pull the plug on this do I need a PCT ready just a few weeks in?

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Thanks TEK. I figured I'd catch some flack but I came on here looking to get some advice from experienced users. The reason why I'm asking 2 weeks in is because I had received advice to use this cycle from someone I know who has been a bit experienced in this for the past few years but now I'm questioning his advice, and like many new users, should have done a lot more research to begin with. I thought I had all the info I needed from him and then as I start researching a bit more I realize I should have had a PCT ready and I should have asked more info on a proper cycle.

So if I decide to pull the plug on this do I need a PCT ready just a few weeks in?

You've only done 4 injections? Probably not, but it wouldn't hurt anything...and I'm not saying scrap your cycle. BUT....do some research on what guys call "blast/cruise", do some research on TRT/HRT, and do some research on SERMs, AIs, and PCT and weigh your options would be my advice.

Oh, and word to the wise, ALWAYS have everything you need on hand before you ever take your first pin b/c life happens fast. That should be your golden rule

 

[Boilermech]

Welcome to Meso brother. A little late in the game to start asking about an AI and PCT. I feel like I just answered this question the other day. Oh well I'll help you out a little.
PCT
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
To explain: week 1 Nolvadex 40mg/ed Clomid 100mg/ed. Same goes for week 2. Then for the following weeks the doses are cut in half. If you start to get blurred vision on 100mg of Clomid cut it back to 50mg. It effects some differently then others.
The time to start pct after a long ester cycle like enanthate would be at least 2 weeks after last pin. You could even go 3 weeks after last pin before you start pct.
You need to stop the Deca a couple weeks before you stop the Testosterone at least.
Adex at .5mg/ed isn't a bad place to start but that is something you will have to experiment with and see where your e2 is when you get your bloodwork and then make appropriate adjustments. Also take the adex up to the day you start your pct.
When I'm running Deca I take it for at least 12 weeks. Personally for your first cycle I would drop the Deca and just run the Test for 10 to 12 weeks. That away you know how your body is going to react to the testosterone. Good luck.
BM
PS. TEK is a solid brother here and gives good advice so I would take it and do some research.

 

[Boilermech]

Dang just realized the test and Deca is a mix. So I guess you can't drop the Deca without dropping everything. My bad [emoji4]

 

[Omega77]

You've only done 4 injections? Probably not, but it wouldn't hurt anything...and I'm not saying scrap your cycle. BUT....do some research on what guys call "blast/cruise", do some research on TRT/HRT, and do some research on SERMs, AIs, and PCT and weigh your options would be my advice.

Oh, and word to the wise, ALWAYS have everything you need on hand before you ever take your first pin b/c life happens fast. That should be your golden rule

Thanks for the advice. I don't think I'll do a "blast/cruise" but I'll look into TRT/HRT. I think I'm just going to pull the plug on this since I feel underprepared and revisit another time if I choose.

I've done my 5th pin and not quite 2 full weeks of GHRP-2. If I do a PCT now with Clomid/Novladex (as suggested by Boilermech) will the PCT be shortened because I'm barely 2 weeks in? What about Anastrozole?

Thanks again!

 

[Omega77]

Than

Welcome to Meso brother. A little late in the game to start asking about an AI and PCT. I feel like I just answered this question the other day. Oh well I'll help you out a little.
PCT
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
To explain: week 1 Nolvadex 40mg/ed Clomid 100mg/ed. Same goes for week 2. Then for the following weeks the doses are cut in half. If you start to get blurred vision on 100mg of Clomid cut it back to 50mg. It effects some differently then others.
The time to start pct after a long ester cycle like enanthate would be at least 2 weeks after last pin. You could even go 3 weeks after last pin before you start pct.
You need to stop the Deca a couple weeks before you stop the Testosterone at least.
Adex at .5mg/ed isn't a bad place to start but that is something you will have to experiment with and see where your e2 is when you get your bloodwork and then make appropriate adjustments. Also take the adex up to the day you start your pct.
When I'm running Deca I take it for at least 12 weeks. Personally for your first cycle I would drop the Deca and just run the Test for 10 to 12 weeks. That away you know how your body is going to react to the testosterone. Good luck.
BM
PS. TEK is a solid brother here and gives good advice so I would take it and do some research.

Thanks for the PCT help. I'm going to pull the plug on this only 5 pins in and just 1.5 weeks into GHRP-2 since I feel underprepared and I'm nervous about how harsh Deca is.

I'll look into TRT/HRT first. If i choose to return to this I'll just run a cycle of Test first.

Thanks!

 

[Omega77]

Another thought....what if I drop the Test E/Deca and just run GHRP-2 with some CJC 1295 w/o DAC?

 

[Big Mike]

Welcome brother! I see the fellas already squared you away with some great feedback, that's how we roll!


Big Mike