New to PEDs, looking for some advice

[ZyzzReincarnate]

None. Probably due to the small doses used.


I do think that test suppression will occur with Dbol.


Was also thinking about simply raising the Var for first and see how things turn out.

Dbol will definately suppress you to a signifigant extent. So can anavar.

 

[H91]

No. Testosterone is highly suppressive. What I was trying to say is that Dbol is very suppressive as well so if you are going to use something that is very suppressive your first choice should be testosterone. Testosterone is very effective and has less health effects and side effects than a synthetic such as Dbol. I would suggest just Var or testosterone and Var.

Another thing to consider would be GH. Do you know your igf1 level? Older guys, myself included, often find even two IU nightly to be a huge difference. I get much better recoveryand many other benefits from it. If your goal is fat loss and recovery GH is a much better choice than Var. GH has no risk of suppression and helps fat loss more significantly than lower dose Var.

Understood.
I have not checked igf1, but guessing bring 5ft5 the levels might not be very high. XD

Never thought about gh, but will definitely look into it.

 

[UncleBuns]

Dbol will definately suppress you to a signifigant extent. So can anavar.

There are real human studies on suppression from Var. It is much less suppressive than d-ball. Of course it depends on the dose and the length of time as well as each individual. But in general, d-ball is very suppressive and VAR is mild to moderately suppressive.

 

[UncleBuns]

Understood.
I have not checked igf1, but guessing bring 5ft5 the levels might not be very high. XD

Never thought about gh, but will definitely look into it.

Your height has mostly to do with your genetics and not so much to do with your testosterone or igf-1. Even if you have sky High testosterone and igf-1 during puberty, your genetics will limit your height.

 

[ZyzzReincarnate]

There are real human studies on suppression from Var. It is much less suppressive than d-ball. Of course it depends on the dose and the length of time as well as each individual. But in general, d-ball is very suppressive and VAR is mild to moderately suppressive.

Yeah, I agree with you. Still suppressive though, espeacially for someone 55 year old.

 

[H91]

Good day everyone,

So.... you guys have been making me think a lot.
I have started the Var as preworkout and it gives a nice kick for the gym sessions...but that seems about it.
What's been said in this thread have been making me thinking that I should stop fiddling around if my goals are real.

Starting on a test cycle seems the logical path.
However, there are a few things that's in my way that I would like to clear out.

The gains that can be expected from a test cycle seem to depend a lot on the initial test levels. Someone with low test would experience more gains than someone who already has a high test level.
Knowing that I have a test level around 900, can I still expect like 20% strength gain after a few months?
Also read that in order to keep the Lydig cells working and not have my nuts turn to raisins, I should also be using HGH, but this seems to be a high risk option for someone having diabetes.

All comments and guidance welcomed


Some results from my latest bloodwork below:
Sodium*.............................................. 137mmol/L

Potassium* .......................................... 4,3mmol/L

Créatinine* .......................................... 13,4 mg/L

Cholesterol* ........................................ 2,25 g/L

Triglycerides* ....................................... 1,25 g/L

Cholesterol HDL* .................................. 0,48 g/L

Cholestérol non-HDL ............... 1,77 g/L

CRP ..................... 0,4 mg/L

S.G.O.T/ASAT* ............... 48 UI/L

S.G.P.T/ALAT* ................ 42 UI/L

GGT ...... 18 UI/L

Alcaline Phosphatases ......................... 86 UI/L

Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG) .... 59,46 nmol/L

Oestradiol*........................................... 35 pg/mL

L.H.*................................................... 4,8 UI/L

F.S.H.*................................................. 3,8 UI/L

Testosterone ........................................ 874,97 ng/dL

T.S.H............................. 1,17 mUI/L

Free Testosterone 9,6 pg/mL
33,3 pmol/L


Bioavailable Testosterone 1,87 ng/mL
6,49 nmol/L