Hard to argue with that. I'm a fan of powerlifting but I get upset about equipped lifting because I believe it is inhibiting the growth of the sport. It makes it hard for people to relate to it if they think that an 800-1000 pound bench is possible.
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Odog can do 500 at 200 lb bw...raw. I seent it
That's not a good bet to take up
That's not a good bet to take up
Sector51
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OK gotcha but save the debate for another thread just not in here. Fair enough?
I don't really care about my stay here as I said before I made an account specifically to correct you
. I'd be willing to take you up on that challenge tho even if you are stronger. You do look more jacked than me in your avi so I wouldn't be supprised. BTW I'm 27 so you can stop calling me kid. sorry OP about the clutter. we can continue over PM if you like OdieM
You don't think it is possible though? They said that about the 600 lb bench until it was broken... Then the 700 pound... The 800 will be broken eventually I think. Really I think the only reason equipment has become popular is because it is commonly used in training and grew a following in that end of the spectrum. Equipped or not, Scot Mendelsons record was badass, I forget the other guys name.
Go to the new member introduction section if you end up sticking around man. We don't always get along with one another here but it's cool as long as everyone stays respectful.
I think there will be a monster that comes along that can do it eventually but steroids and training methods aren't going to get much better if at all and I thing they were a big reason for the jump from the 60's on. I agree Mendelson is a monster, ive met him a couple times, he still has a record for both raw and equipped at the 308 wt class I believe. Thanks for the advice
evarthecaveman
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Back day
Pulldown machine
220 3x20 pr and wu.
Tbar rows 4 plates 3x20
Seated row 3x12
Monster set
Underhand pulldowns
Behind neck pulldowns
Front pulldowns
3 sets.
Stiff arm pull downs/high cable row superset 2 sets
Db shrugs/ plate shrugs/ leg raise 5 sets.
Stronger then a damn ox lately. Mod protein highish fat and HIGH carbs does wonders for me. Really makes ya wonder why people spout 2-3G of protein per lb lol.
Pulldown machine
220 3x20 pr and wu.
Tbar rows 4 plates 3x20
Seated row 3x12
Monster set
Underhand pulldowns
Behind neck pulldowns
Front pulldowns
3 sets.
Stiff arm pull downs/high cable row superset 2 sets
Db shrugs/ plate shrugs/ leg raise 5 sets.
Stronger then a damn ox lately. Mod protein highish fat and HIGH carbs does wonders for me. Really makes ya wonder why people spout 2-3G of protein per lb lol.
Because man, it's the latest protein and bcaas that make your muscles grow. Doesn't everyone know this
Grats on PR boss
It's just a frame of thought. The idea of maximizing on the only ingredient that builds muscle, protein. When you consider there isn't any conclusive studies or evidence that it does or doesn't help it really is a logical conclusion to have.
My experiences say 2g/lb bw is a bit of a waste. Based on my own observations. I prefer 1.5 mostly because I didn't notice a physique or performance/recovery difference between that and 2g. Other than 2g/lb bw backed me up till next yr
I think at some point about what we know in studies that have been performed and about our own experiments and common sense wed have to realize muscle building is a slow process for the majority of us. Some faster than others and then the small minority that make ifbb pro before there 20. They are the elite genetic freaks. And genetics in this sport are everything and then some.
My experiences say 2g/lb bw is a bit of a waste. Based on my own observations. I prefer 1.5 mostly because I didn't notice a physique or performance/recovery difference between that and 2g. Other than 2g/lb bw backed me up till next yr
I think at some point about what we know in studies that have been performed and about our own experiments and common sense wed have to realize muscle building is a slow process for the majority of us. Some faster than others and then the small minority that make ifbb pro before there 20. They are the elite genetic freaks. And genetics in this sport are everything and then some.
evarthecaveman
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Hit some pretty light chest today elbow feeling a little better after benching 415
Flat barbell
Bar-20
135-10
225-8
315 3x6
225-20
All reps were easy just letting the elbow get 100%
Incline hammer 3 plate ea side
3x12
Chest press/peck deck 3x superset
Incline crossovers/regular cross overs 3 set superset
Decline chest press 3 sets
Flat barbell
Bar-20
135-10
225-8
315 3x6
225-20
All reps were easy just letting the elbow get 100%
Incline hammer 3 plate ea side
3x12
Chest press/peck deck 3x superset
Incline crossovers/regular cross overs 3 set superset
Decline chest press 3 sets
evarthecaveman
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Bad fuckin ass shoulder day
Standing military
Bar-15
95-15
185-12
205-8
205-6, drop 185-3 drop 165-5
Seated Latterals
25 lbs-20,15
30-12
35-10 drop 30-6 drop 25-8
35-8 drop 30-4 drop 25-5
Seated one arm db press (very hard)
55 lbs-15, 12
65-10
80-8! Holy shit pump was good.
Reverse peck deck
60-20
70-15
90-12 double drop
90-10 double drop
5 sets of shrugs.
Standing military
Bar-15
95-15
185-12
205-8
205-6, drop 185-3 drop 165-5
Seated Latterals
25 lbs-20,15
30-12
35-10 drop 30-6 drop 25-8
35-8 drop 30-4 drop 25-5
Seated one arm db press (very hard)
55 lbs-15, 12
65-10
80-8! Holy shit pump was good.
Reverse peck deck
60-20
70-15
90-12 double drop
90-10 double drop
5 sets of shrugs.
penche
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That shoulder day looks badass man. I'm sure you can do 225lb seated military for 6~8 reps. Heads turn at that moment.
Lovin this man's strength, no homo
Lovin this man's strength, no homo
evarthecaveman
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Ya man around the 245 range on seated for 6. Thank you bro I love movin big weights when my joints let me!!
evarthecaveman
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Back day was a success.
Wide grip pull-ups
15-12-10-8
Tbar rows
3 plates-15
4-12
5-8 drop 4-6 drop 3-6
Stiff arm pulldowns
Superset close grip pulldowns
3 sets, 12-10-8 double drop
Low pulley row
150-12
160-10
180-8 drop 140-6 drop 100-6
Weighted hyper extentions 45 lb plate 3x15
Dumbell row 100 3x12
Wide grip pull-ups
15-12-10-8
Tbar rows
3 plates-15
4-12
5-8 drop 4-6 drop 3-6
Stiff arm pulldowns
Superset close grip pulldowns
3 sets, 12-10-8 double drop
Low pulley row
150-12
160-10
180-8 drop 140-6 drop 100-6
Weighted hyper extentions 45 lb plate 3x15
Dumbell row 100 3x12
evarthecaveman
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Chest day
Incline barbell
95-15 wu
135-15 wu
225-15
245-12 drop to 225-failure
245-8 drop to 225-failure drop 185 failure
Flat barbell
225-12
275-8
275-8 drop to 225-failure
Incline db press
100 3x10
Flat fly
40-12
40-10 drop 35-8
40-8 drop 35- failure drop 25 failure
Cable cross over press (feels better then a cross over)
80 3x15
Incline barbell
95-15 wu
135-15 wu
225-15
245-12 drop to 225-failure
245-8 drop to 225-failure drop 185 failure
Flat barbell
225-12
275-8
275-8 drop to 225-failure
Incline db press
100 3x10
Flat fly
40-12
40-10 drop 35-8
40-8 drop 35- failure drop 25 failure
Cable cross over press (feels better then a cross over)
80 3x15
evarthecaveman
New Member
Leg day
Leg ext
90-20 wu
160-20
190-15
190-15 drop 160-8
180-12 drop 150-8
Squats
315-12
365-10 rest pause 3 more reps
365-8 rest pause 3 more reps
Lg press 8 plates-12, 12 rest pause 10 rest pause
Hack squats 3 plates 2x10
Sldl 135-15
225-12
315-8 rest pause
Lying leg curl
160 3x12
Standing leg curl
40 2x20
calf raises 10 sets
@Atticus hey bud. Instead of just throwing insults how about help educate. It's what the forum is for. I'm 20 on my first cycle sitting at the heaviest weight I've been, yea your right I'm holding some water but the hole point of the board is to help and educate, so please be my guest
Leg ext
90-20 wu
160-20
190-15
190-15 drop 160-8
180-12 drop 150-8
Squats
315-12
365-10 rest pause 3 more reps
365-8 rest pause 3 more reps
Lg press 8 plates-12, 12 rest pause 10 rest pause
Hack squats 3 plates 2x10
Sldl 135-15
225-12
315-8 rest pause
Lying leg curl
160 3x12
Standing leg curl
40 2x20
calf raises 10 sets
@Atticus hey bud. Instead of just throwing insults how about help educate. It's what the forum is for. I'm 20 on my first cycle sitting at the heaviest weight I've been, yea your right I'm holding some water but the hole point of the board is to help and educate, so please be my guest
OdieM
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I can't really speak for Atticus but since he's a friend I will try. He wasn't insulting you. He was simply saying your freaking 20 dude. I was you so I know whats going on in that head of yours. I actually ran a cycle younger then you are now. I was such a dumb ass but no one could tell me anything. You know what it got me? Low T before I was ever out of my 20s. I also was in fear that i couldn't have kids. I should of had a dozen of those little bastards by now. I know it fucked me up there as well. Luckily I would only cycle like once every 2 years so my body recovered some what but still did a lot of damage. Anyway I can see where he's coming from with his opinion. He's the most by the book square guy I've ever met, hence why i said that if I abuse aas while he's training me he will drop me. Ive been where you are and I'm only speaking from experience man. You looked fucking great before aas and you should of waited but like I said I was once you and no one could tell me anything either.
evarthecaveman
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I wasn't trying to be a smart ass or cry baby Odie I was being honest. You speak highly of him and I think he could be a great asset to this board but to kinda mock and just say something like that isn't what this board is here for. I'm more then open to his diet advice and training advice. There's a whole lot of people here that are running more then me and who don't look like Greek gods. I am holding water but my goal isn't to step on stage tomorrow I'm just enjoyin life and lifting. Running a cycle wasn't that great of an idea my total t didn't even to up to much. My natural t is high enough I just wanted to see what the buzz is about and I still want to beat my state record
Hey dude, I'm sorry I haven't been checking in as much as before. I will catch up, but in the meantime , I will just tell you your new pup is a fucking stud. Huskies are crazy smart, yet silly dogs! I started training my girls Aussie the past few weeks. It is so fun working with a dog with brains.
evarthecaveman
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Hahaha I love my pup. Been spending a ton of time with her. She's a blast. If I wasn't getting married this pup could help me pull so much tail. It's the perfect wing dog.
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