Newbie And I Need Help Without Flaming

[LuvMuhRoids]

Very good advice MaxRep/Mr Meanor. I concur both posts in advice to you tcso.

Again, this may not be what you want to hear but for now, I'd just stick to a good over the counter fat burner. That's really all you need and they're very effective. Some sort of stack consisting of: Ephedrine, Caffeine and Yohimbine hcl. (or nowadays, probably an ephedrine substitute)

Way before they ever started advertising here on this site, I was using "Tight", which is now advertised to the left. A word of caution, don't order it directly from the company San, as other internet, discount supplement companies have it much cheaper.

When the fat starts getting harder to come off, say after you've lost the first 50 pounds, then let's talk about clenbuterol and T3 and possibly some steroids. Look at it as a journey, it's not going to happen overnight so just start taking those first steps.

Good luck,
MaxRep

 

[jefft77]

Loose the weight first. I was 180lbs 5 years ago (all fat) and I'm only 5ft3. I decided to use winny to loose weight and cut up. I actually gained 10 lbs. Then decided to try to loose the weight first. I went down to 135 lbs in 2 years with the Atkins diet. I have been working out for 3 years and decided to just start my first cycle. I've been doing just straight Winny tabs (50mg ed) for a month now and I'm glad I lost the weight first cause the results from the winny show more now. Also be sure that you go to the gym and like it before juicing cause the worst thing to do is to jump into exercising and roids all at once and give them both up after a month.

 

[crewboss]

absolutely bro, listen to these guys. it will be tough at the beginning, but as soon as your new diet and workout have you getting some results, you won't want to stop. these guys are right, with the right diet paired with maybe a fat burner like ECA and some hard work, you'll shred the fat. the keto diet is a great option for you too, check grizz's post out in nutrution forum. and once you get down to a better weight, adding something like clen or T3 might be in the cards....you sound like you genuinely want to change things up - if so, listen to these guys and work hard. good luck.

 

[LuvMuhRoids]

jefft,

I hope you are not advicing to only use a winny cycle. In my opinion you dont know what you are doing and need to do some research. It is not suggestable by many to just do a winny only cycle or there of. Again, and I have said this before, test should be the base for every cycle. I just posted some useful information why. Go to my profile and look up all post by this user.

Loose the weight first. I was 180lbs 5 years ago (all fat) and I'm only 5ft3. I decided to use winny to loose weight and cut up. I actually gained 10 lbs. Then decided to try to loose the weight first. I went down to 135 lbs in 2 years with the Atkins diet. I have been working out for 3 years and decided to just start my first cycle. I've been doing just straight Winny tabs (50mg ed) for a month now and I'm glad I lost the weight first cause the results from the winny show more now. Also be sure that you go to the gym and like it before juicing cause the worst thing to do is to jump into exercising and roids all at once and give them both up after a month.

 

[USDlabs]

correct

These bros are correct.

avoid winny or any AAS for at least a year and train and diet right. Believe me, you'll thank yourself later that you did all the research and learned how to discipline yourself to train and diet the right way.

Here are a few things i'd like to add about winstrol:

1. Did your buddy tell you that some people get horrible joint pain using winstrol? i.e. it 'dries up' the joints? At your weight this might be a serious concern, as 285 lbs is already a lot of stress and strain on your joints. Am I right?

2. Winstrol only works out well for people that already have low bodyfat. It really is a waste unless you are already pretty lean.

3. remember, 90% of this is going to be your diet, rest, and training. The drugs won't do anything unless the foundation is there.

train hard, and never give up!

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