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new2juice

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Hey, I'm obviously new if you couldn't tell by my username lol ;)

I am 29 and I have been working out mostly consistently for about 5 - 6 months which I know is a short time. I have worked out before but I really don't count the times that I did as it was only for like a month or 2. I used to play basketball everyday so that's primarily why I didn't work out like I wanted to because my gym had a basketball court plus in the summer you couldn't keep me away from the park.

So I have transitioned from plating ball to working out out mainly because I want to look like a fitness model and because my body has been telling me for some time that it's time to stop playing ball.

Stats:

-age: 29
-weight: 208 lbs
-height: 5' 9"
-bf%: about 20% (sheesh)
-workout: about 3 - 4 times a week but plan to do 6 - 7 days a week on gear and sometimes twice a day
-diet: I have done ketp for about 2 weeks but stopped due to my body getting pretty acidic. I eat halfway clean but will only eat what I make on gear at least 90% of the time. When I cook its always clean.

This will be my first cycle which I know should be test only but I am planning to do Test P for a week before I add the Tren A. I want to do 500mg/ew of Test P (2 pins @ 250mg) and 50mg of Tren A/ed. Of course I am open to suggestions and am here to learn.

Apologies for the long wind :)
 
Hey buddy welcome to the board.

I would first accomplish consistency before doing anything, without it everything else is immediately put into waste.

Goodluck
 
Thanks for the welcome! I definitely understand where your coming from but as you know it is highly tempting. I would like to add that I went vegetarian for about a year about 2 years ago and I was a meat lover at the time so you can imagine the dedication it took. In regards to the gym, it is definitely a part of my life for a very long time.
 
What are you doing in the gym specifically? Give us an idea of where your at on your major lifts and what your program looks like... Obviously you know that you could make much more progress naturally. If you get your numbers up on your major lifts you can add some decent mass without gear at this point, but I'm sure that's not what you want to hear.
 
Hey, I'm obviously new if you couldn't tell by my username lol ;)

I am 29 and I have been working out mostly consistently for about 5 - 6 months which I know is a short time. I have worked out before but I really don't count the times that I did as it was only for like a month or 2. I used to play basketball everyday so that's primarily why I didn't work out like I wanted to because my gym had a basketball court plus in the summer you couldn't keep me away from the park.

So I have transitioned from plating ball to working out out mainly because I want to look like a fitness model and because my body has been telling me for some time that it's time to stop playing ball.

Stats:

-age: 29
-weight: 208 lbs
-height: 5' 9"
-bf%: about 20% (sheesh)
-workout: about 3 - 4 times a week but plan to do 6 - 7 days a week on gear and sometimes twice a day
-diet: I have done ketp for about 2 weeks but stopped due to my body getting pretty acidic. I eat halfway clean but will only eat what I make on gear at least 90% of the time. When I cook its always clean.

This will be my first cycle which I know should be test only but I am planning to do Test P for a week before I add the Tren A. I want to do 500mg/ew of Test P (2 pins @ 250mg) and 50mg of Tren A/ed. Of course I am open to suggestions and am here to learn.

Apologies for the long wind :)


^^^^ This looks like a Test E or C dose... Prop is supposed to be run ED or EOD not twice weekly. If you do decide to do this I would run Test E instead of Prop and leave the Tren out this time ... Just Test is a good cycle I don't care what anyone says, I still run Test only cycles sometimes if I'm low on money... But you need to post up your routine for us first and foremost..
 
Hey, thanks for chiming in!

lol actually I'm aware of that and I expected to hear it. My major lifts can definitely improve but so far I do:

deadlift:

2 x 135 - 8 reps
1 x 185 - 8 reps
1 x 225 - 8 reps
1 x 275 - 8 reps
2 x 315 - 2 - 4 reps

Squat:

2 x 135 - 8 reps
1 x 185 - 8 reps
2 x 225 - 8 reps
1 x 275 - 3 - 4 reps

bench:

2 x 135 - 8 reps
2 x 185 - 8 reps
1 x 225 - 3 - 5 reps

My bench probably would be more but I don't do it to much after I tore my pecs lol. I learned not to drop the weight and catch it the hard way. I can do 270 on the hammer strength bench machine thing. Not sure what it's called exactly.

Dips:

1 x body weight - 8 - 10 reps
2 x 45 8 reps
I also do a bunch of bodyweight dips throughout the time I'm in the gym. I do between 50 and 70 reps just doing 8 or 10 here and there as I rest or am just walking past somewhere to dip.

Those are the majors. I also do a bunch of other compound and isolation workouts like: standing overhead shoulder press, barbell curls, cable butterflies, leg extensions, leg curls (I think that's what they're called), machine rows, bent over rows, etc.

Every gym day I also do about 15 - 20 minutes of hiit cardio. I do 6 rounds of 1 minute on 6.5 or 7 and 30 seconds on 3 on the treadmill. I also run pushing the weighted sled (I dont know what its called) on the track with 2 45 lb plates. I could do more but I injured a tendon in my foor playing bball so I take it light.

Looking forward to your wisdom. :)
 
Well I'm glad to hear your doing the basic compound moves at this point.. Squatting, deadlifting and benching with low reps and heavy are going to do the most for you at this point in time. I always like to see what guys are doing when they have only been lifting for a few months.. Lots of times I see routines with all isolation moves, no squatting, working arms and chest everyday ETC.... You definitely have room for improvement but your on the right track and not bad at all for only 6 months.. Are you sticking to an actual routine and focusing on progression or are you doing more of a split routine?
 
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Yah you have to be careful benching and doing dips as well.. You can really hurt yourself and damage not only your chest but shoulders and rotator cuffs as well. Don't go too fast and try to do more weight than you can handle.. With dips don't bounce, make sure you go all the way down at the bottom of the rep. I like to dip slowly and I never cheat on reps. I hope after your injury your being much more cautious with your form on not only bench but all your exercises..
 
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I actually read up in the steroid profiles a few minutes after I posted that and saw I was wrong but thanks for the correction!

I do the basic compound lifts but I don't really follow any routine other than what I put together. I actually don't know how it came together. I guess it's just workouts that I like. :)

My schedule looks like this:

Monday - chest and tries

Bench/Machine Bench

2 x 135 - 8 reps / 1 x 90 - 8 reps
2 x 185 - 8 reps / 1 x 140 - 8 reps
1 x 225 - 3 - 5 reps / 1 x 180 - 8 reps
/ 1 x 230 - 8 reps
/1 x 270 - 3 - 5 reps (If I'm feeling good then I'll do a second set)

Cable Butterflies

3 x 60 - 8 reps

Dips:

1 x body weight - 8 - 10 reps
2 x 45 8 reps
I also do a bunch of bodyweight dips throughout the time I'm in the gym. I do between 50 and 70 reps just doing 8 or 10 here and there as I rest or am just walking past somewhere to dip.

I do a lot of dips every workout day. The reason is because I wanted bigger arms and I read about the triceps being 2/3 of the arm so dips became my weapon of choice.

I dont know the name of this workout but it's when you put the cables at the bottom and then pull your arms in front of you until your hands meet.

3 x 50 - 8 reps

Cable Tricep Push Downs

3 x 70 - 8 - 10 reps

Sometimes I use the rope and do 50 lbs instead.

I'm going to throw in skull crushers. I used to do them but stopped.

Hiit cardio - 15 - 20 minutes

Wed - back and bis

Cable Pull Downs - Wide Grip

1 x 130 - 8 reps
1 x 160 - 8 reps
1 x 180 - 8 reps

Seated Machine Rows

1 x 90 - 8 reps
1 x 140 - 8 reps
2 x 180 - 8 reps

Seated Machine Butterflies? The ones for the back.

3 x 80 or 70 lbs. Depends on the day

Standing Row Bar - I don't really like these so I don't do them much

1 x 45 - 8 reps
1 x 70 - 8 reps

Standing Bicep Curls / Hammer Curls

1 x 35 - 8 reps / 2 x 30 - 8 reps
1 x 30 - 8 reps / 1 x 25 - 8 reps
1 or 2 x 25 - 8 reps

Sometimes I do 50 or 60 lbs with the curl bar standing or on the seated or standing preacher benches.

Hiit cardio - 15 - 20 minutes

Thurs - Legs

Squat:

2 x 135 - 8 reps
1 x 185 - 8 reps
2 x 225 - 8 reps
1 x 275 - 3 - 4 reps

Either leg extensions or the leg press machine. I don't know the exact weight because there are a few leg press machines and sometimes I am forced to use the one with numbers instead of weight. I max that one out but the other one I do around 230 - 300 depending on how I feel. The one where you lat down and put on plates I do 2 x 360 - 8 - 15 reps.

Today we did what my friend wanted to do so it was:
1 x 180 - 15 reps
1 x 230 - 13 reps
1 x 270 - 11 reps
1 x 320 - 8 reps
1 x 360 - 8 reps
1 x 450 - 8 reps
1 x 540 - 5 reps (they did 8 and one friend did 1 x 630 for 5 reps)

Seated Calf Raise Machine / Standing Calf Raise Machine

3 x 50 - 8 - 15 reps / 3 x 150 - 15 fast reps and 10 slow 1 second hold reps

Hiit cardio - 15 - 20 minutes

The days do switch up though as sometimes I can't make it to the gym or one of my buds can't go that day and wants me to wait til the next day.

I just start all over once I'm done with all three so friday or sat would start chest again. It's more of a 2 week spit I guess.

Man did that take long to type lol
 
Yah you have to be careful benching and doing dips as well.. You can really hurt yourself and damage not only your chest but shoulders and rotator cuffs as well. Don't go too fast and try to do more weight than you can handle.. With dips don't bounce, make sure you go all the way down at the bottom of the rep. I like to dip slowly and I never cheat on reps. I hope after your injury your being much more cautious with your form on not only bench but all your exercises..

Yes I am except dips. I will tighten them up now. I don't bounce but I could go a little slower. I only go to 90 degrees because I heard the full range can do shoulder damage. When I do it accidentally I feel it in my pec near the armpit where I tore it.

Thanks for the tips!
 
Yes I am except dips. I will tighten them up now. I don't bounce but I could go a little slower. I only go to 90 degrees because I heard the full range can do shoulder damage. When I do it accidentally I feel it in my pec near the armpit where I tore it.

Thanks for the tips!


If it's uncomfortable for you then don't break 90 but your not getting the full stretch . You cannot damage your shoulder from completing a full ROM on dips, I have been doing them for years and that is far from the truth... But I will talk to you tomorrow bro I'm crashing out.. I got lots more for you so stay tuned....
 
I think you should change your routine... You are only hitting body parts once a week.. You need to be hitting your body parts more frequently. Have you looked into full body routines such as a 5x5? Push/pull routines are great as well, with both you hit body parts more than once a week which isn't the most effective training method..
 
My replies got deleted :mad:

To sum it up I said that the 540 was on the leg press. The one where you are on your back pushing up.

I also said thanks for any info you provide me on 5x5. I took a look around and saw some different variations on it. I am going to start but wanted to hear what your recommendations are first. Thanks
 
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