no gains

[yohyoh]

Hey guys, so I'm in my 7th week of my cycle. I'm doing 250mg of text C a week. I know that's not very much but I wanted to play it safe for my first cycle. I've noticed no gains maybe a lil but of vascularty. I've had no sides except for a lil bit of back acne. I have a few more weeks(3) then will take a 8 to 10 week break. What shshould I run next? I'm thinking 500mg a week test c. I'm 5'7" 180# been training 5 years and diet is on point.

 

[Boilermech]

What brand of test C are you taking? What is your calorie intake?

 

[yohyoh]

Test c is by "Andro gen labs" my calories are 4k a day...350 400g protein

 

[Boilermech]

Did you have any bloodwork done before you started your cycle to have a baseline? If so you could have bloods done again to see if your test or estrogen levels have come up. AAS are not miracle drugs so your test C could be good your just running a small dose and those could be the gains your going to get. You stated you still have 3 weeks left so you should see some more gains over that time. What kind of PCT are you planning? Also as a rule of thumb I always wait the total length of the cycle including the PCT before starting another cycle. And for the next cycle I would go with test C 500mgs a week. Maybe jump start with dbol at 40mgs ed for the first 4weeks. Just my opinion.

 

[yohyoh]

I had no blood work done which I know I should have but figuered it was such a low dose is be good. My pct is Nolva 30/20/10 so after I'm done with this cycle I should wait 13 weeks? Ya that's probably going tobe my next cycle, thanks for the advice.

 

[Boilermech]

10week cycle, 2weeks between cycle and pct, 4weeks pct. That's 15weeks total. I was going to suggest Nolvadex 40/40/20/20. Shouldn't need anything else at that dose of test but I would run it for 4weeks. Then have blood work done to make sure test levels are back. Better safe then sorry. Privatemdlabs is extremely easy to use.

It's still early. I'm sure you'll get a lot more recommendations before the days up

 

[yohyoh]

Okay awesome, I have plenty of Nolva so I'll run you're what you said. Thanks for the advice.

 

[Dr JIM]

You will benefit little by running Novadex with such a low end TT cycle and the fact you've seen NO GAINS after close to TWO MONTHS tells me the gear is BUNK!

Find another lab OR test your TT level 24-36 hours after your next injection.

Although the TT level should approximate 2500ng/dl, (at the dose your using) I don't believe your results will come close mate!

Regs
Jim

 

[cyclone268]

Using the 10x approximation rule, a ~2500 TT level is far above the normal 300-1000 range and should yield good gains, so your gear is almost certainly underdosed considering you aren't seeing much of anything.

your best bet (in my opinion) is to safely finish this "cycle" and find some better gear for your next run. we've all been there mate, bunk gear sucks, my first cycle ended pretty much the same way due to the same reason. just don't be an idiot like me and extend the cycle in hopes of seeing some sort of gains!

read, read, read and come back swinging for a proper second cycle

 

[yohyoh]

Thanks Doc, I have just started to notice that I'm having ed issues now out of no where! For the past week my dick will just go limp during sex. The first 6 weeks I was having raging boners now there just embarrassing! Could this be from the test? I kinda expected this after my cycle but not during.

 

[yohyoh]

Thanks, I am planning my next cycle now, probably 500mg ew and 40mg dbol ed for 10 weeks, I'm just trying to find a good sourse for next time. I'm thinking of using naps or Titian.

 

[yohyoh]

Sorry for misspelling I'm on my phone.

 

[Boilermech]

Thanks, I am planning my next cycle now, probably 500mg ew and 40mg dbol ed for 10 weeks, I'm just trying to find a good sourse for next time. I'm thinking of using naps or Titian.

I would just run the Dbol for the first 4weeks on your next cycle, by then your test will take over. There are some good sources here so you shouldn't have a problem brother.

 

[yohyoh]

Thanks, good idea I'll do 40mg dbol for 4 weeks..I got awhile until I start my next cycle so I'm going to keep shopping around.

 

[Abuckeye]

Like the others have said bloodwork is your best friend!!!
I had the same issues as far as the ED around 7 weeks into my cycle. I stepped up my dose of exemestane and it helped a little. Then I ordered some caber (cabergoline) and I'm 2 weeks into it and it's helped an astronomical amount.
Good luck with everything!!!
Have a great fucking day guys!!!!

 

[yohyoh]

Thanks for the advice, how much caber are you running?

 

[Abuckeye]

I know everyone is different on how they react with drugs so I would start very low to see how it affects your body. I started out taking a quarter of a ml and now I take a half of a ml every 4 days. It's dosed at .50mg per ml.
There are some other good side effects that I've noticed as well.
#1 Popping various erections throughout the day for no reason at all (some might say this a bad side effect but I like to think its a bonus)
#2 After unloading during intercourse (fucking) it's rather easy to stay alert (sporting wood) only a few minutes after.
#3 Improved hand eye coordination. I operate heavy equipment (cranes, track-hoes, back-hoes, the wife, extenda boom fork trucks etc.) and I've noticed an improvement just in those actions of operations. In the gym I've noticed a marginal improvement over control of free weights.
#4 I sleep better throughout the night. Caber makes some people tired after taking it so I take it before bed.

The bad side effects
#1 The first two days I noticed my blood pressure had dropped. It was enough to wake me up after falling asleep!!! I also had shortness of breath The first two days.
If you take blood pressure medicine you definitely need to monitor your blood pressure if your still planning on taking it.
# 2 There's some information you need to research on your own about long term effects associated with higher doses that may have a negative impact on valvular heart disease. Some studies suggest that there are long term sides and some studies suggest that there isn't.
Anyways I wish you luck in your endeavors and as always have a great fucking day guys!!!!

 

[yohyoh]

Wow thanks for all the info! I'm going to look into it more before my next cycle.

 

[Abuckeye]

Anytime !!!!

 

[sc0rcher]

Thanks for the advice, how much caber are you running?

do what the doc advised bro.. blood test is your best advice.. u only take asin or adex if yr e2 is elevated, and caber if yr prolactin is too high..