No nuts,No sex drive hcg/clomid wont work!

[Deacon]

your situation is a poster child for why you dont run such a goddamn long cycle and then dont run test either.

I wish you luck bro it may take a while - I have heard of guys going a year or more before they returned to normal.
And in your case I might even get off of everything - clean out - and dont get back on until things are running right again.

 

[Manuel_Hung]

Often it does. However it depends on the degree of shutdown and how the individual responds. Sometimes the system gets so shut down that the body never produces any natural Test. Then HRT is the only option. Below is a link to the package insert for Profasi HCG in English, and shows some methods of administration for hypogonadism.

http://www.allthingsmale.com/Package%20Insert/HCG.pdf

Nice to have the insert! Thanks! I think its rare for a guy to be completely shut down forever it does happen but the guys are usually on for years......HRT comes into play in the long run because the guy had "naturally" low test any way....I like to use the HCG during the cycle and maybe bump up frequency of injections right at the end.....the comment made about doing HCG off cycle is correct....u will produce test when using HCG and if ur clean ie. post cycle u are still hampering ur HPT and will not "recover"

 

[MANWHORE]

There is a point here where you seek the help of a real MD who is a specialist in AAS users. Swale and All Things Male is a good place to start, or a teaching hospital or clinic where you can often find super specialists. And for god sake don't self treat anymore and don't touch the AAS until you take care of your current condition.

"5 months ago I even tried to run 1000mgs week of test400 to kick my sex drive back to normal but it didnt do anything besides make me bigger."

And if you had begin to restart your HPTA the above protocol almost certainly shut you back down completely. I have said this before and got flamed. But it takes longer than most realize to recover natural test production. Months and months and sometimes years to be fully back to normal. Even with HCG and Clomid, which are only partially effective at restoring HPTA functions. I know guys balk at this but they are in my experience the ones who base there recovery on observation and not blood tests. Please keep us up dated on how this pans out bro. It is a harsh reminder of what can happen, we can learn from this. Good luck bro.

Yes,i too believe it takes much longer than most think. I read about a guy with the same problems your having and it took 18 months of therepy before his normal testosterone came back.

 

[MANWHORE]

Good luck bro. Just know that clomid is a relatively safe drug for long-term use. 8-10 days is not enough, especially for your situation. I've got bros in their mid-twenties who needed clomid for 2-3 months before they felt normal again. I'm a geezer at 31, it will probably take me forever to recover from my current cycle, LOL. Also, you might want to check out that article floating around showing nolvadex to be superior at upregulating the HPTA than clomid, interesting read. Good luck.

Yeah maybe Nolva would be better,because i don't believe it will desensitize the Hypo like Clomid will. I think it's better to take larger doses of Clomid a few times during the months instead of running it none stop.

 

[Power Rabbit]

hcg at mega doses kills lydig cells...you might have done permanent damage

 

[conan]

man, i was on for 3-4 years straight and my levels took 6 months to go back to normal after HCG and clomid for 3 months