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Nolva and Ai only - get leaner and higher T??

rxzed said:
Yes. You will crash your E2 and feel miserable. Long term SERM use has potential serious health consequences as well. Not to sound condescending, but you should do a lot more research before using any PEDs.
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So when SERM are used in a PCT, are they mostly to make the process not feel as bad, but they don't actually help it along? I was under the impression that something like nolva is helping to permanently bring your test production back, at least faster. And you are correct, more learning is required for sure
 
stevegrantrogers said:
So when SERM are used in a PCT, are they mostly to make the process not feel as bad, but they don't actually help it along? I was under the impression that something like nolva is helping to permanently bring your test production back, at least faster. And you are correct, more learning is required for sure
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SERMs inhibit the estrogen negative feed back loop that prevents your body from producing gonadotropins and thus testosterone production.

Essentially, when you have enough estrogen from exogenous hormones, your body doesn't need to produce any. PCT isn't needed to restore natural production, bar prolonged use.
 
OP, the various threads you’ve started lead me to believe PED’s aren’t right for you, at least right now.

How old are you?
 
You need to learn WAY MORE and stay away from PEDs. For sure.

You wanted to run AI and a serm
Way before even thinking of testosterone. Wild.
Not a dig.
But yeah man. Learn more. Read more. Watch more.
 
Yeah man, take it all in stride. You'll get blasted for things like this because the truth is nobody here wants to see you damage yourself permanently by attempting crazy shit, or jumping into this world clearly uneducated. If your intent on using PED's one day and have the physical foundation from years in the gym as a natural you'll eventually get there. You just need to put in the work, both in the gym and with studying up on everything else.
 
CraneKraken said:
Yeah man, take it all in stride. You'll get blasted for things like this because the truth is nobody here wants to see you damage yourself permanently by attempting crazy shit, or jumping into this world clearly uneducated. If your intent on using PED's one day and have the physical foundation from years in the gym as a natural you'll eventually get there. You just need to put in the work, both in the gym and with studying up on everything else.
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Yeah I get it man. It comes with the territory of asking questions online, people don't tend to pull their punches lol. It's better than them not responding
 
stevegrantrogers said:
I mean I have thought of test lol. I was just reading here and saw this discussion:

Small gains with a "Only AI cycle"?
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OP said he was either doing a research paper and or doing AI to look better and lean out. Didn’t read everything. But seems he was crashing his e2 to flush water out and look leaner…

My advice. Start with TRT if you want to use PEDs. Minimal use for AI there if dosed right and everything else in check.
You’ll see gains from just small exogenous test use. Trust me. Low dose for longevity has given me the best results. But I’m currently on very low dose from health issues.
 
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