Norma Test E-GRanabolic-20150704 Start of protocol

Colt44

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Ok so I am sure there were some around when the whole GRanabolic debacle went down. I received amps from them of "Norma" Test E. Several labmax tests later they appeared as if no hormone was present. In response to plenty of negative feedback and comments that Norma no longer produced the amps in question, GR sent 5 amps in the original packaging, with inserts and hologram boxes. In the mean time: Being that labmax is a more of a presumptive test, I then sent them off for MS/HPLC. I like to be thorough. The results were dismal.(56mg/ml at 4% purity) I am shooting from the hip on that one but it was close to that. All of the testing is located in this forum.

The 5 amps that were in hologram boxes are the amps that I will be running for 5 weeks at 250mg a week, pinning once a week. Tonight was the first pin. Pinned 1ml in right VG with 1/2in 30g slin pin.

Do I expect results from this? No, not really. I am doing this because I figured if any of the amps I received were half way decent, it would be the ones sent in response to criticism. I had them laying around and figured why not do it for science? Lol.

I also wanted to test TT serum levels at 24, 48, and 72 hours post injection. So hopefully these bastards have some test in there to accomplish this.

I will post the results here and note anything of importance along the way. Wish me luck! Seems I will need it.


On a side note: The MS/HPLC was performed by Angus. We all know how those results warranted plenty of skepticism. That wasn't made clear until later. So being the curious, sometimes reckless bastard I am, I sent them off for another HPLC/MS through Dr. Jim. As expected, the results were still garbage.(This test showed tren as the parent compound instead of test, and not much of it.) FWIW, I believe the second analysis over the first. As I said, the tested amps were part of the actual anonymous order and the 5 boxes were the "Of course we are legit" and here's our proof. We shall see.

Ok done with the novel. Questions and criticism, as always, are welcomed.
 
Ok so I am sure there were some around when the whole GRanabolic debacle went down. I received amps from them of "Norma" Test E. Several labmax tests later they appeared as if no hormone was present. In response to plenty of negative feedback and comments that Norma no longer produced the amps in question, GR sent 5 amps in the original packaging, with inserts and hologram boxes. In the mean time: Being that labmax is a more of a presumptive test, I then sent them off for MS/HPLC. I like to be thorough. The results were dismal.(56mg/ml at 4% purity) I am shooting from the hip on that one but it was close to that. All of the testing is located in this forum.

The 5 amps that were in hologram boxes are the amps that I will be running for 5 weeks at 250mg a week, pinning once a week. Tonight was the first pin. Pinned 1ml in right VG with 1/2in 30g slin pin.

Do I expect results from this? No, not really. I am doing this because I figured if any of the amps I received were half way decent, it would be the ones sent in response to criticism. I had them laying around and figured why not do it for science? Lol.

I also wanted to test TT serum levels at 24, 48, and 72 hours post injection. So hopefully these bastards have some test in there to accomplish this.

I will post the results here and note anything of importance along the way. Wish me luck! Seems I will need it.


On a side note: The MS/HPLC was performed by Angus. We all know how those results warranted plenty of skepticism. That wasn't made clear until later. So being the curious, sometimes reckless bastard I am, I sent them off for another HPLC/MS through Dr. Jim. As expected, the results were still garbage.(This test showed tren as the parent compound instead of test, and not much of it.) FWIW, I believe the second analysis over the first. As I said, the tested amps were part of the actual anonymous order and the 5 boxes were the "Of course we are legit" and here's our proof. We shall see.

Ok done with the novel. Questions and criticism, as always, are welcomed.

Have you ever gotten any of the Norma's from pct-shop? I finally started running them 2 amps a week
Will get Bloods 5 weeks in. Just finished week 1 so far
Dshep
 
Have you ever gotten any of the Norma's from pct-shop? I finally started running them 2 amps a week
Will get Bloods 5 weeks in. Just finished week 1 so far
Dshep

Sure haven't. I will more than likely never even touch another "pharma" Norma amp. IMO most are going to be counterfeit. Be wary man.
 
Have you ever gotten any of the Norma's from pct-shop? I finally started running them 2 amps a week
Will get Bloods 5 weeks in. Just finished week 1 so far
Dshep

When you do finish those 5 weeks, please post the results. How long post pin are you going to test?
 
Ok so I am sure there were some around when the whole GRanabolic debacle went down. I received amps from them of "Norma" Test E. Several labmax tests later they appeared as if no hormone was present. In response to plenty of negative feedback and comments that Norma no longer produced the amps in question, GR sent 5 amps in the original packaging, with inserts and hologram boxes. In the mean time: Being that labmax is a more of a presumptive test, I then sent them off for MS/HPLC. I like to be thorough. The results were dismal.(56mg/ml at 4% purity) I am shooting from the hip on that one but it was close to that. All of the testing is located in this forum.

The 5 amps that were in hologram boxes are the amps that I will be running for 5 weeks at 250mg a week, pinning once a week. Tonight was the first pin. Pinned 1ml in right VG with 1/2in 30g slin pin.

Do I expect results from this? No, not really. I am doing this because I figured if any of the amps I received were half way decent, it would be the ones sent in response to criticism. I had them laying around and figured why not do it for science? Lol.

I also wanted to test TT serum levels at 24, 48, and 72 hours post injection. So hopefully these bastards have some test in there to accomplish this.

I will post the results here and note anything of importance along the way. Wish me luck! Seems I will need it.


On a side note: The MS/HPLC was performed by Angus. We all know how those results warranted plenty of skepticism. That wasn't made clear until later. So being the curious, sometimes reckless bastard I am, I sent them off for another HPLC/MS through Dr. Jim. As expected, the results were still garbage.(This test showed tren as the parent compound instead of test, and not much of it.) FWIW, I believe the second analysis over the first. As I said, the tested amps were part of the actual anonymous order and the 5 boxes were the "Of course we are legit" and here's our proof. We shall see.

Ok done with the novel. Questions and criticism, as always, are welcomed.
Way to go brother! I will be extremely interested in seeing if 72hrs is your highest numbers. Thanks for getting this done [emoji106]
 
As you may recall, I had these exact same Normas (lot, etc) from GRanbolic. I gave up trying to figure out what was what and threw then away. If they were underdosed counterfeit as alleged, the amp replicas were good by photo comparison. No defects, flush bottoms, nipples on top, etc.

I watch with interest.
 
Well I got bloodwork back on these things. I was pinning once a week at 250mg. I went through 5 amps. I actually went 12 days instead of the planned 7 before the final amp I pinned.(Travel/testing restrictions)

So I pinned 250mg and tested 25 hours post pin. Image-6269.jpg

Great results huh? What a joke. Taking the 7 amps I have left to the shooting range.
 
Yeah I half expected it to be low but this is just pathetic.

The numbers do line up more with the 56mg/ml Angus ran than the traces of Tren and nothing more analysis....
 
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