Not feeling anything from tren a @700mg

[Deepwaters1987]

Yeah I'm going through the same thing right now actually but I won't be posting anything about it until I know 100% whats up. The last thing I want to do is hurt someones reputation and I'm wrong.

Me too. Got my first lab back yesterday on a lab in the underground. Ran 7 weeks pharma 1 shot every sat. test levels came back at 69×× on pharma. Got first labs back on this certain ugl and was 3666 with same injection and testing protocal. Took one more lab today. Waiting on the labs before I drop the bomb. Funny thing is thus ugl said he wanted to do a pharma vs his ugl test. Kinda screwed himself. The only difference is I was on 225mg tren a and 450 npp while on pharma. If that made any difference I don't see it causing a 3300 point discrepancy. Funny thing is I was starting to regret doing this test because I thought what if these numbers come back great and then this guy decides to exit scam or something. Even though I'm disappointed in the numbers I'm a bit relieved. Big lesson learned on my end. Screw these ugls.

 

[Sampei]

Deca sometime screw.with total test number. It did for me.on my bloodtest. Came 10k total test on 600mg a week of test. While.doing 600mg deca with it

 

[Apexvallen]

Yeah npp and deca can definitely screw with the numbers. Alternatively, what was in your NPP vial was actually just testosterone.

Btw, If you got 7000 test, that means you were taking about a gram of test a week.

 

[Evom1]

Me too. Got my first lab back yesterday on a lab in the underground. Ran 7 weeks pharma 1 shot every sat. test levels came back at 69×× on pharma. Got first labs back on this certain ugl and was 3666 with same injection and testing protocal. Took one more lab today. Waiting on the labs before I drop the bomb. Funny thing is thus ugl said he wanted to do a pharma vs his ugl test. Kinda screwed himself. The only difference is I was on 225mg tren a and 450 npp while on pharma. If that made any difference I don't see it causing a 3300 point discrepancy. Funny thing is I was starting to regret doing this test because I thought what if these numbers come back great and then this guy decides to exit scam or something. Even though I'm disappointed in the numbers I'm a bit relieved. Big lesson learned on my end. Screw these ugls.

What lab?

 

[Apexvallen]

The reason I'm concerned about my tren experience was I got aggression but basically nothing else. No insomnia, no night sweats, no increase in strength (that couldnt be accounted for elsewhere). I've got another brand to try though once my PCT is over so I can compare but I was realllllly dissapointed. 3000+ cals a day is what I was eating. 120-180g protein per day, which isn't super high, but I'm only sitting around 195 so its decent.

Another thing to consider is a source can unknowingly be using bad raws. He could have paid top dollar from a very trusted and close supplier who he has a great relationship with and has never had any problems, and end up with a bad batch. Could point to lazyness, but I think it doesn't necessarily mean malice or greed (it definitrely still could mean that). We don't trust sources when they post their own tests so the onus is on us to test it ourselves, which can be time consuming and sometimes impossible depending on location and security and finances.

Theres really no way to win, but thats the black market for ya.

 

[Evom1]

The reason I'm concerned about my tren experience was I got aggression but basically nothing else. No insomnia, no night sweats, no increase in strength (that couldnt be accounted for elsewhere). I've got another brand to try though once my PCT is over so I can compare but I was realllllly dissapointed. 3000+ cals a day is what I was eating. 120-180g protein per day, which isn't super high, but I'm only sitting around 195 so its decent.

Another thing to consider is a source can unknowingly be using bad raws. He could have paid top dollar from a very trusted and close supplier who he has a great relationship with and has never had any problems, and end up with a bad batch. Could point to lazyness, but I think it doesn't necessarily mean malice or greed (it definitrely still could mean that). We don't trust sources when they post their own tests so the onus is on us to test it ourselves, which can be time consuming and sometimes impossible depending on location and security and finances.

Theres really no way to win, but thats the black market for ya.

In my honest opinion that's a pretty low protein intake and a low calorie intake. I mean, I diet down on more than 3,000 calories. Do you think the lack of gains could be attributed to such low food? Have you been able to make progress on those macros with other cycles?

Just a thought, but what about something more like, 4,000 calories and closer to 300g protein?

Did you take before and after pictures, or body fat measurements? Tren doesn't always drastically move the scale, but typically brings a solid recomp effect.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Most Tren is all UG not made pharma so anaboliclab is your best bet or don't bother

There's no such thing as pharma Tren.

 

[Steve84]

And now we know why he did not make gains...the truth always comes out.
Diet is shit.
Cry scam but you have no idea how to even diet. Probably your workouts were shit on top of it.
I've used PC Tri Tren and love it.

 

[MythotiK]

So started tren a @ 300/week for 2 weeks, didn't notice anything, then 525/wk...Nothing, so I did 100mg ed for about 10 days and still didn't feel anything. I'm not really familiar with ace, but with tren e, 400mg a week after about 2-3 weeks I'd be more irritable, sweat alot, and be way stronger in the gym. Right now I'm just not feeling anything and I'm not quite sure what to do.

700mg is alot in my opinion, especially after having been off for about 3-4 months. Is it possible to just not respond to tren ace?

Labmax is cheap!!! But I've never had bunk from Pharmacom...

 

[Deepwaters1987]

What lab?

Just posted up forst set of labs in lab testing section since I let the cat out of the bag. Also I was mistaken. Pharma was 59xx not 69xx. And I did drop the npp 450 weekly but switched to deca ester at 300mg. So major difference is mg between npp and deca, the 225 tren a I was on with pharma, and I started var at 30mg 3 weeks ago. So total test difference was 2300 not 3300. Still a pretty big difference. Thread is pharma vs tsl.

 

[Leangains4life]

its underdosed 100%.. I did cheap tren up to homebrew pure and the homebrew i was another person lol

 

[2Dumb2Plumb]

its underdosed 100%.. I did cheap tren up to homebrew pure and the homebrew i was another person lol

Is this English? This isnt Snow the rapper spouting out his frenchie Canadian rap informer right?

 

[2Dumb2Plumb]

All these drugs increase Protein synthesis. Also Tren is known to eat away at a shit ton of glycogen causing weakness and tiredness. Not just from insomnia but from lack of glycogen in the muscle.

You need to seriously eat EAT and EAT and drink a lot of water in order to maximize trens results.

I'm currently on my first tren run and I go to bed full and pumped and I wake up flat/weak and tired as fuck.... its like I'm eating all day just to put in an hour or two into my workout. Can it be thyroid? Probably, I should buy t3 but I do know it's due to lack of sleep, burning through a fuck tOn of calories and lack of water.

 

[Evom1]

Just an update for you guys. Switched to a different tren a, dosed it at 150mg eod, and it's been about 10 days. Noticeably vascular and tighter. Strength is going up, and irritable. This is what I'm more used to.

So I really don't know what was up. I wish there was an easy way to test what the actual vial contents are. I'm not trying to "reverse scam" Pharmacom or anything. I've always been very happy with them on all their products. I really think maybe just something went wrong unintentionally, and a batch went thru with an under dosed finished product. Who knows.