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Man,you beat me to itBob Smith said:Holy shit! For $260, most people could run 10-20 weeks of test and tren and come out with much better results.
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Man,you beat me to itBob Smith said:Holy shit! For $260, most people could run 10-20 weeks of test and tren and come out with much better results.
Exactly. What is natural about getting all jacked up on manufactured chemicals? IMO, its part of the hypocrisy of many "natural" lifters.Geilos said:If you want to be so natural, why do you want to use all of these supplements?
Just eat right, and you'll get big. If you have to use all that crap, you're probably munchin out on poptarts.
I consider my body (and yours) to be part of the "environment." And animals of all sorts produce test.Goliath said:oh yeah and in nature I mean things such as food and the enviornment.
Injectible test is just as natural, and probably moreso, than the stuff in the NO products. To say the stuff you used was better because its "natural" completely ignores the fact on how those products are manufactured. Those barbells you mentioned are probably on par for being as natural as the stuff you said was so great.Goliath said:yes but the test is produeced by your body thru other processes, you cannot just find pure test in a plant or food. You can put things together from they enviornment maybe and make test but you will not find it in its purest form. O yeah and if you wanna beslick by saying that I guess you consider weights and barbells natural too cause it's in the enviornment.
Goliath said:Straight from a Dictionary.
Main Entry: anabolic steroid Function: noun: any of a group of usually synthetic steroid hormones that increase constructive metabolism and are sometimes abused by athletes in training to increase temporarily the size of their muscles
SYNTHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK i am on both sides here so i am just going to say what i feel about this whole thing .. AAS is not cheating unless you are using them to win natural competitions. Yes it is alot easier to gain muscle with them but everyone knows this and that's the whole idea of using them. Life is short,so if there are ways to get the job done faster,then i say use those ways,as long as they are safe. AAS have sides for many but these sides go away when stopping them. Some guys can get high bp,high cholest,titties,enlarged prostate .. yeah the list goes on but if taken with care and not abused ( Meaning of abused is different to all of us of course because of genetics) there will most likely not be any problems. If you want to stay natural that's your choice and i do like your attitude about the whole issue. At least your not coming on here saying "AAS is bad,you guys are stupid for using them .. stay natural you juice monkeys .. You did say they are cheating which i do and don't agree with .. I agree that if you are competing with someone or many people in a natural competition,like that strong man who got caught (know his name just can't remember),that you should be disqualified because YES it deffinitely is cheating. If,however,you are not in natural comps and just using them for your own insecurities LOL .. for your own benefit .. just to look better at the beach for the women or whatever,then NO way is it cheating. Who are you cheating? Yourself because maybe your training and diet suck and the AAS is doing most of the work? So what at least you look goodGoliath said:yes but the test is produeced by your body thru other processes, you cannot just find pure test in a plant or food. You can put things together from they enviornment maybe and make test but you will not find it in its purest form. O yeah and if you wanna beslick by saying that I guess you consider weights and barbells natural too cause it's in the enviornment.
Yeah i saw him but i forget what he looks like .. yeah it's Mariusz could have looked for the name but i am tiredGoliath said:beefy I don't consider pro hormones and Mit natural supps cause those 2 are some very potent shit every thing in those supps are NOT natural they were lucky to make it on shelves, that is why prohormones are banned and I remeber reading something that lab test were done on a couple supps on the market and they had roids in them or something illegal and not natural, I think m1t was one and superdrol or some shit like that. I know AAS users aren't cheating unless you are competing and they are against the rules. I don't hate on peeps that use them for there on reasons I am just saying that MOST the users that do use it for that are very inexperienced with training and eating and use roids to get bigger, stronger faster which is a shortcut and they will suffer the side effects but if they just educate themselves on excersing and eating properly they will realize that they can get pretty big and if they plateu they can add some mild supps like creatine, test boosters, etc.. and they will be pretty happy with the results and not have to suffer the bad effects of using roids as the easy way out. They will prolly lose most of the muscle after they get off cause they never learned the basics much less how to USE safely in low doses.
HEY MANWHORE DON'T TELL ME THAT STRONGMAN GUY THAT GOT CAUGHT USING AAS was, MARIUSZ PUDZIONOWSKI( the big bodybuilder looking Polish guy) I love that guy! I like strong man shit ! you see that young 19 year old dude, he is the youngest pro strongman ever! and he is for USA
Bob Smith said:Exactly. What is natural about getting all jacked up on manufactured chemicals? IMO, its part of the hypocrisy of many "natural" lifters.
