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Bob Smith said:
Holy shit! For $260, most people could run 10-20 weeks of test and tren and come out with much better results.
Man,you beat me to it :D ... Or even 8 weeks of both with money left over for hookers
 
ah but you cannot buy the FEELING that you get from the results of using something that is not illegal and that is not considered easy or cheating, cause AAs to me is infact taking the easy way out for getting bigger. Do it naturally and you feel amazing,proud,stronger and you belive in yourslef and YOU know that the results were more because of YOU and not the roids. I am not dissing on roids or anyone who uses them jsut saying that one has more of a sense of pride when it's done with much more mild supps and a whole lot your self.
 
If you want to be so natural, why do you want to use all of these supplements?

Just eat right, and you'll get big. If you have to use all that crap, you're probably munchin out on poptarts.
 
Geilos said:
If you want to be so natural, why do you want to use all of these supplements?

Just eat right, and you'll get big. If you have to use all that crap, you're probably munchin out on poptarts.
Exactly. What is natural about getting all jacked up on manufactured chemicals? IMO, its part of the hypocrisy of many "natural" lifters.
 
nah man I don't eat pop tarts, haha that shit is poison. I used the supps because alot of peeps have the misconception that the supps don't do shit and that it's just a scam by the companies to get your money. I have proven that they do wprk and that a person can get BIG on them and not have to turn to roids to get the smae effects. Roids just goet the job done faster but with more negative side effects and they can do it cheaper. With the so natural supps on the market they can do the same just take longer and more gradual gains.

Natural to me means the ingredients can be found in nature. You cannot find test in nature.
 
Goliath said:
oh yeah and in nature I mean things such as food and the enviornment.
I consider my body (and yours) to be part of the "environment." And animals of all sorts produce test.
 
yes but the test is produeced by your body thru other processes, you cannot just find pure test in a plant or food. You can put things together from they enviornment maybe and make test but you will not find it in its purest form. O yeah and if you wanna beslick by saying that I guess you consider weights and barbells natural too cause it's in the enviornment.
 
Goliath said:
yes but the test is produeced by your body thru other processes, you cannot just find pure test in a plant or food. You can put things together from they enviornment maybe and make test but you will not find it in its purest form. O yeah and if you wanna beslick by saying that I guess you consider weights and barbells natural too cause it's in the enviornment.
Injectible test is just as natural, and probably moreso, than the stuff in the NO products. To say the stuff you used was better because its "natural" completely ignores the fact on how those products are manufactured. Those barbells you mentioned are probably on par for being as natural as the stuff you said was so great.

Also, my nuts make test in its purest form everyday. How is that not natural?
 
test that is made by your nuts is natural! when did I ever say it wasn't? When did I ever say the stuff I used was BETTER because it's like you say "natural"? I am not trying to argue with you but it seems like you wanna argue. NO is made from the amino acid Arginine which I am sure you know already so if you say that is not natural then, are you saying that protein powders(that contain Arginine and other aminos) are not natural? It is a natural ingredient, isn't it?
 
Straight from a Dictionary.

Main Entry: anabolic steroid Function: noun: any of a group of usually synthetic steroid hormones that increase constructive metabolism and are sometimes abused by athletes in training to increase temporarily the size of their muscles

SYNTHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Goliath said:
Straight from a Dictionary.

Main Entry: anabolic steroid Function: noun: any of a group of usually synthetic steroid hormones that increase constructive metabolism and are sometimes abused by athletes in training to increase temporarily the size of their muscles

SYNTHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, that just about does it for that discussion. What else is there to be said? I mean, it is in the dictionary... :confused:

I wonder what the dictionary definition of high fructose corn syrup is?
 
The only natural test is DNA SPECIFIC, the one that is made in the body of each person. Unless you shoot that kind into your body then the other shit is synthetic.what ever you say man I don't wanna bother with this shit no more you are stubborn and can't stand being wrong. If I am wrong then fuck I am and I will admit it but you on the other hand are very stubborn. forget about it.
 
Relax, bro. Look. You've got a very different outlook than I do about AAS. Well, if you're talking about AAS in regards to competitions that ban AAS then I agree with you...AAS is wrong, bad, synthetic, not the same as creatine or apples, etc.

But, really, bro. What's the difference between AAS and prohormones. Just as an example. And let's throw out injectibles cause needles are scary. What's the difference between a bottle of dbol tabs and a bottle of m1t? Nothing?

Travel back in time when prohormones were legal. Now what's the difference?

I think you're either afraid of AAS or you want some and don't know where/how to get them. Either way, it's obvious that you're-hmmm, how do I say this...You're not listening to the voice of reason or logic when it comes to AAS vs. supps.
 
Goliath said:
yes but the test is produeced by your body thru other processes, you cannot just find pure test in a plant or food. You can put things together from they enviornment maybe and make test but you will not find it in its purest form. O yeah and if you wanna beslick by saying that I guess you consider weights and barbells natural too cause it's in the enviornment.
OK i am on both sides here so i am just going to say what i feel about this whole thing .. AAS is not cheating unless you are using them to win natural competitions. Yes it is alot easier to gain muscle with them but everyone knows this and that's the whole idea of using them. Life is short,so if there are ways to get the job done faster,then i say use those ways,as long as they are safe. AAS have sides for many but these sides go away when stopping them. Some guys can get high bp,high cholest,titties,enlarged prostate .. yeah the list goes on but if taken with care and not abused ( Meaning of abused is different to all of us of course because of genetics) there will most likely not be any problems. If you want to stay natural that's your choice and i do like your attitude about the whole issue. At least your not coming on here saying "AAS is bad,you guys are stupid for using them .. stay natural you juice monkeys .. You did say they are cheating which i do and don't agree with .. I agree that if you are competing with someone or many people in a natural competition,like that strong man who got caught (know his name just can't remember),that you should be disqualified because YES it deffinitely is cheating. If,however,you are not in natural comps and just using them for your own insecurities LOL .. for your own benefit .. just to look better at the beach for the women or whatever,then NO way is it cheating. Who are you cheating? Yourself because maybe your training and diet suck and the AAS is doing most of the work? So what at least you look good :) .. I would really like to say this though "" Those of you who keep saying (maybe not on this board but i've seen it) diet and training give about 90% of the muscle gains and AAS is just the topping on the cake giving only 10%" JUST STOP IT NOW :rolleyes: .. Now let's all be friends and look at naked girls :D
 
beefy I don't consider pro hormones and Mit natural supps cause those 2 are some very potent shit every thing in those supps are NOT natural they were lucky to make it on shelves, that is why prohormones are banned and I remeber reading something that lab test were done on a couple supps on the market and they had roids in them or something illegal and not natural, I think m1t was one and superdrol or some shit like that. I know AAS users aren't cheating unless you are competing and they are against the rules. I don't hate on peeps that use them for there on reasons I am just saying that MOST the users that do use it for that are very inexperienced with training and eating and use roids to get bigger, stronger faster which is a shortcut and they will suffer the side effects but if they just educate themselves on excersing and eating properly they will realize that they can get pretty big and if they plateu they can add some mild supps like creatine, test boosters, etc.. and they will be pretty happy with the results and not have to suffer the bad effects of using roids as the easy way out. They will prolly lose most of the muscle after they get off cause they never learned the basics much less how to USE safely in low doses.


HEY MANWHORE DON'T TELL ME THAT STRONGMAN GUY THAT GOT CAUGHT USING AAS was, MARIUSZ PUDZIONOWSKI( the big bodybuilder looking Polish guy) I love that guy! I like strong man shit ! you see that young 19 year old dude, he is the youngest pro strongman ever! and he is for USA
 
Goliath said:
beefy I don't consider pro hormones and Mit natural supps cause those 2 are some very potent shit every thing in those supps are NOT natural they were lucky to make it on shelves, that is why prohormones are banned and I remeber reading something that lab test were done on a couple supps on the market and they had roids in them or something illegal and not natural, I think m1t was one and superdrol or some shit like that. I know AAS users aren't cheating unless you are competing and they are against the rules. I don't hate on peeps that use them for there on reasons I am just saying that MOST the users that do use it for that are very inexperienced with training and eating and use roids to get bigger, stronger faster which is a shortcut and they will suffer the side effects but if they just educate themselves on excersing and eating properly they will realize that they can get pretty big and if they plateu they can add some mild supps like creatine, test boosters, etc.. and they will be pretty happy with the results and not have to suffer the bad effects of using roids as the easy way out. They will prolly lose most of the muscle after they get off cause they never learned the basics much less how to USE safely in low doses.


HEY MANWHORE DON'T TELL ME THAT STRONGMAN GUY THAT GOT CAUGHT USING AAS was, MARIUSZ PUDZIONOWSKI( the big bodybuilder looking Polish guy) I love that guy! I like strong man shit ! you see that young 19 year old dude, he is the youngest pro strongman ever! and he is for USA
Yeah i saw him but i forget what he looks like .. yeah it's Mariusz could have looked for the name but i am tired :) He won the last one and he is even bigger then whan i saw him last. He's a friggin monster and there is no way i believe he stopped AAS. He does look real good .. Use roids to make up for bad diet and training? Use safely in low doses? .. OK yeah the 1st one sounds like me but nooot so much the second ... LOL Like i always said before,i could care less what people do with their lives. I don't care if they eat McDonalds all day and sit on the couch. I don't care if they use roids as a crutch for their shitty diets and training habits. We are never going to like EVERTHING others do with their lifes or rather AGREE with it. Sure my diet could be alot better,i could spend more time in the gym all for more results but i choose not too. I have a wife and son and have better things to do with my life .. well i wouldn't say working 7 days/week most weeks is better but it gives me more money that i can give to my wife so she won't kick my ass AND that is better .. We don't want anyone or at least i don't want anyone getting hurt from drug use,so i always say get some bloodwork done every now and then. If it's good and your getting the results you want,then keep doing what your doing. I think most of us are mature enough to know not to look for trouble. BTW once this Test Susp kicks in,i will have some more pics if anyone cares .. Nudes are by request only but i'll be running a sale on those :D
 
Bob Smith said:
Exactly. What is natural about getting all jacked up on manufactured chemicals? IMO, its part of the hypocrisy of many "natural" lifters.


I completely agree. IMO, being "natural" means taking no supplements of any kind....so it is hypocritical. Just because they're legal doesn't make 'em "natural".
 
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