Npp Brew

[jJjburton]

NPP brew to make 100 mg/ml would this work?

3 grams gear
30 mL
———————
100 mg/mL

so
2% BA= .6 mL BA
18 % BB= 5.4 mL

then ill just fill to 30 mL.

i only want to make 30 mL because i have more poweder, just dont want to store 3 30 mL vials. Rather store 1 30 mL vial.

 

[Eman]

Yes

 

[Bulldog413]

Yes it will work, but I find beaker marks are a hit in miss in accuracy. I prefer doing the exact math with displacements but it depends on how precise you wanna be. Some think the difference is marginal.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

You need 1% BA like pharma products are... dont know who started advocating 2% BA

 

[Elistheman]

You can even make it with 16% BB if you use a thin carrier like MCT.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

On my next re up I'm going to make some npp but your ahead of me

NPP brew to make 100 mg/ml would this work?

3 grams gear
30 mL
———————
100 mg/mL

so
2% BA= .6 mL BA
18 % BB= 5.4 mL

then ill just fill to 30 mL.

i only want to make 30 mL because i have more poweder, just dont want to store 3 30 mL vials. Rather store 1 30 mL vial.

On my next re up I'm going to make some npp but your ahead of me(first time npp brew and use). Do you mind reporting back? (Pip, mental feel, results eventually)

 

[jJjburton]

I just make it 2/18. Everything i brew.

 

[Boss hog]

Just made 50 ml of NPP125 at 2/18 with GSO.
No pip at all

 

[jJjburton]

Just made 50 ml of NPP125 at 2/18 with GSO.
No pip at all

I was thinking that. Instead of 100 mg M-F maybe do....125 mg but do .5 cc ed

so 500 mg vs 430 mg but then i miss Sat and Sun with the 500 mg and the 430 is an even amount. I actually maybe do that instead.

did you have to heat it at all?

 

[Boss hog]

I was thinking that. Instead of 100 mg M-F maybe do....125 mg but do .5 cc ed

so 500 mg vs 430 mg but then i miss Sat and Sun with the 500 mg and the 430 is an even amount. I actually maybe do that instead.

did you have to heat it at all?

Very little while brewing it. Then I kept it warm while I filtered it.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

You don’t need to go over 50 - 60 C

 

[Boss hog]

You don’t need to go over 50 - 60 C

I agree on most raws you don't need to.

 

[Bradybomb]

You don’t need to go over 50 - 60 C

Which steroids are sensetive to heat? I heard you say trenbolone in another thread. I was reading some of xmadxscientist’s threads on brewing test no ester and he says to heat it to like 350° and for long periods of times too. You think it has something to do with esters?

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Which steroids are sensetive to heat? I heard you say trenbolone in another thread. I was reading some of xmadxscientist’s threads on brewing test no ester and he says to heat it to like 350° and for long periods of times too. You think it has something to do with esters?

Ester is one thing, the hormone another, having an ester attached cannot change the Aas’ molecular physical properties...

Ester are made with acids... Equipoise is boldenone with acid undecylenic attached to it, as a ester... the product that s formed with the bond of a carboxylic acid and an alcool/phenol etc... the undecylenic acid is liquid at room temperature... boldenone is not... in fact if you take boldenone cypionate or acetate it come as a powder... Maybe the ester can become a vector for temperature..


Trenbolone it seems is more sensitive to heat and degrade so easily... so i wont go over 50 C on every aas oil based... since i dont need to go over that temperature...

Winstrol Anadrol Dianabol have a way higher melting point and so theyre more resistant to heat than other compounds...

i brewed winstrol anadrol and dianabol at 140 C for 30 minutes but i didnt analyze them after ... so i m not totally sure they re fine... it would be great if @janoshik can tell us if 140 C for 30 mins degrade Winstrol and the other orals..

but it seems it dont...

 

[janoshik]

Ester is one thing, the hormone another, having an ester attached cannot change the Aas’ molecular physical properties...

Ester are made with acids... Equipoise is boldenone with acid undecylenic attached to it, as a ester... the product that s formed with the bond of a carboxylic acid and an alcool/phenol etc... the undecylenic acid is liquid at room temperature... boldenone is not... in fact if you take boldenone cypionate or acetate it come as a powder... Maybe the ester can become a vector for temperature..


Trenbolone it seems is more sensitive to heat and degrade so easily... so i wont go over 50 C on every aas oil based... since i dont need to go over that temperature...

Winstrol Anadrol Dianabol have a way higher melting point and so theyre more resistant to heat than other compounds...

i brewed winstrol anadrol and dianabol at 140 C for 30 minutes but i didnt analyze them after ... so i m not totally sure they re fine... it would be great if @janoshik can tell us if 140 C for 30 mins degrade Winstrol and the other orals..

but it seems it dont...

mate, esters literally do change the physical properties, such as melting point, which is one of them

AAS are not as sensitive to heat as they are to oxygen and light.

Even trenbolone can handle high temperatures for a teeny bit while, provided it's shielded from oxygen and light. However, it indeed is the most sensitive hormone in my experience and the shielding from air part can get a tad difficult during brewing.

As far as I can tell, all the orals you've mentioned are exceedingly stable, so 30 mins at 140 C is not an issue.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

mate, esters literally do change the physical properties, such as melting point, which is one of them

AAS are not as sensitive to heat as they are to oxygen and light.

Even trenbolone can handle high temperatures for a teeny bit while, provided it's shielded from oxygen and light. However, it indeed is the most sensitive hormone in my experience and the shielding from air part can get a tad difficult during brewing.

As far as I can tell, all the orals you've mentioned are exceedingly stable, so 30 mins at 140 C is not an issue.

How can be possible that ester change the properties of the molecule of AAS? how can you measure melting point of an esterified steroid? I mean the melting point of the Steroid, not of the complex Steroid + Ester. Boldenone Undecylenate is liquid at room temperature because of the undecylenic acid, but the Boldenon molecule should be the same of that one bonded to Cypionic ester... i mean the properties of steroidal ring not the whole new molecule Steroid + Ester, since i care about the unerestified molecule of the AAS the will bond to androgen receptors once ester bond is broken. So if i read that melting point of a unesterified steroid is 80 C, i will stay below and i dont care about ester melting point, as stated Equipoise is liquid at room temperature because of the undecylenic acid

I brewed Trenbolone Acetate Many times and going over 60 C changed its structure since the colour changed, and if the colour changed is because the whole structure changed, and reflex light differently. And guess, the dark orange tren didnt give me effects, like tren cough, sweats, nothing.

Anyway thanks for your answer regards Winstrol

 

[jJjburton]

How thick is npp at 100 vs at 125?
Would there be a big difference?

In MCT oil. Because I am trying to pin through a 27 g 1 cc. Since ed schedule.

And sucking out some stuff through the 27 g took 2-3 minutes. While my mast at 100 took 10 seconds.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

I dont know but you can switch needle... draw with a 18g and then switch to 27g to pin

 

[jJjburton]

Yes but using insulin syringe. Or else i would absolutly do that.

if i have to ill just get 3 cc. I just like the 1 cc. Easy to use and store away. And doing ed injections at .5 cc. A 3 cc barrel seems like a waste

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

With my insulin syringes i can swap needle... i used 18g to draw and then pinned with the original one