NPP crashing and PIP

[Thegreek]

I’ve been using NPP for a few weeks now mixed with test prop in the syringe. When I brewed the NPP I made it at 110mg with 1 BA and 15 or under BB. Can’t remember exactly. Whatever it was it was right at the point of crashing. After heating it would go back into soulution and be fine for a few weeks. Pinning the test and NPP together has seemed to speed up the crashing in the NPP vial I think due to the slight mixing of the test in the NPP vial. At least it seems that way. The other thing I’m noticing is after all these weeks the pip is becoming unreal. It’s gone from next to nothing to horrible. I’m wondering if the NPP is crashing post injection. Anyone have any thoughts or experiences on this.

 

[Robfromga]

Why did you brew it so low in bb?

 

[Thegreek]

It started out as a learning experience. I was playing around with bb amounts in a few different compounds. Test prop at 10. Tren Ace at 12 and NPP at 15. I think I did test cyp at 15 to but I’m not sure. Definitely 18 orless. They all held except the NPP but it took weeks to crash. So by then I just let it be. Would just reheat and it would be ok. But like the first post it seems to be happening faster and now there is way more pip.

 

[Robfromga]

It could be crashing . You've got more experience in this than I. I'm getting ready to brew some npp at 100mg, with 18% bb .

I guess it would depend if your body is absorbing the BB faster than the hormone. Could you not messure out the difference in BB, like 3% and split it between the vials?

 

[Thegreek]

You’ll definitely be good brewing it at 18. Especially if you’re in a slightly warmer climate. I know how to fix it but I’m at the end of it so I’ll just finish it and suck it up. Just a heads up but carrier oil makes a difference when brewing. What works with one may not work with another. Especially if you brew with low BB. Good luck on the NPP.

 

[Robfromga]

You’ll definitely be good brewing it at 18. Especially if you’re in a slightly warmer climate. I know how to fix it but I’m at the end of it so I’ll just finish it and suck it up. Just a heads up but carrier oil makes a difference when brewing. What works with one may not work with another. Especially if you brew with low BB. Good luck on the NPP.

Thanks .Any pointers?

 

[Thegreek]

Not really. I don’t mean that in dick way just not sure what to say. I know you have some experience with pellet tren so I guess you have some basics down. If you want me to go through the whole thing I will or if you have a specific question feel free to ask

 

[Robfromga]

Not really. I don’t mean that in dick way just not sure what to say. I know you have some experience with pellet tren so I guess you have some basics down. If you want me to go through the whole thing I will or if you have a specific question feel free to ask

Right on. I didn't taken it that way .
It doesn't really seem all that hard?!?
Follow one of the recipes . Powder, solvent, BA heat it, add the oil, filter, boom!

Right?

 

[Thegreek]

Sorta. Quick version is powder BB BA at room temp. Dissolve. Heat oil separately. Add to dissolved semi dissolved raws. Stir. Completely dissolve. Sit for a day or two. No crash reheat and filter. This method keeps direct heat from raws and solvents. Which could potentially damage raws if it got to hot. Keep in mind there are a bunch of little steps I left out. You can do it your way and I have done it that way to. This way is safer.

 

[Robfromga]

Sorta. Quick version is powder BB BA at room temp. Dissolve. Heat oil separately. Add to dissolved semi dissolved raws. Stir. Completely dissolve. Sit for a day or two. No crash reheat and filter. This method keeps direct heat from raws and solvents. Which could potentially damage raws if it got to hot. Keep in mind there are a bunch of little steps I left out. You can do it your way and I have done it that way to. This way is safer.

Cool.
Got a lil bit until everything lands so I'm reading up as much as possible . Thanks for the tips .

 

[Thegreek]

Cool.
Got a lil bit until everything lands so I'm reading up as much as possible . Thanks for the tips .

Yup no prob. Message me if you need help.

 

[Robfromga]

Sorry to totally derail your thread.

 

[Thegreek]

Sorry to totally derail your thread.

It’s cool. Wasn’t a major thing I asked about so no worries but if you need something specific just pm me or start your own thread and tag me. I don’t mind helping.

 

[Blakeyy]

Sorta. Quick version is powder BB BA at room temp. Dissolve. Heat oil separately. Add to dissolved semi dissolved raws. Stir. Completely dissolve. Sit for a day or two. No crash reheat and filter. This method keeps direct heat from raws and solvents. Which could potentially damage raws if it got to hot. Keep in mind there are a bunch of little steps I left out. You can do it your way and I have done it that way to. This way is safer.

I do it similar a lot of people add BA at the very start of heating and its not recommended. Personally I always do it this way.
1.add oil to the beaker and the Raws apply a small amount of heat it never gets hot to the stage you touch it and say dame that's hot its mainly just a nice cosy warm =D
2.while that's stirring and heating I messure out bb.
3. about 5mins before I am turning of the heat I add the BB
4. I stop the heat keep it stiring though and suck out the ba with syringe and put it inside there when the heat is turned of.
5. let it cooldown while still on the hotplate and its still stirring.

another note a lot of people seem to still add it in the end but leave it in the syringe ready to go in. and I know its before the filter stage put personally I want that ba touching that plunger for the smallest amount of time possible. so I only pull it as soon as its ready to go inside

 

[Thegreek]

I do it similar a lot of people add BA at the very start of heating and its not recommended. Personally I always do it this way.
1.add oil to the beaker and the Raws apply a small amount of heat it never gets hot to the stage you touch it and say dame that's hot its mainly just a nice cosy warm =D
2.while that's stirring and heating I messure out bb.
3. about 5mins before I am turning of the heat I add the BB
4. I stop the heat keep it stiring though and suck out the ba with syringe and put it inside there when the heat is turned of.
5. let it cooldown while still on the hotplate and its still stirring.

another note a lot of people seem to still add it in the end but leave it in the syringe ready to go in. and I know its before the filter stage put personally I want that ba touching that plunger for the smallest amount of time possible. so I only pull it as soon as its ready to go inside

It’s really a matter of preference. The only thing I will say though is the way I do it eliminates the possibility of over heating the raws and the solvents. Shit happens and it’s easy to get distracted. If that happens while your raws are heating you could potentially ruin the raws or heat out the solvents to some degree. If you only heat the oil and were to get distracted you only have super hot oil or ruined oil that doesn’t really matter. Let it cool or heat a new batch. You still have what’s important. The raws.

 

[Blakeyy]

It’s really a matter of preference. The only thing I will say though is the way I do it eliminates the possibility of over heating the raws and the solvents. Shit happens and it’s easy to get distracted. If that happens while your raws are heating you could potentially ruin the raws or heat out the solvents to some degree. If you only heat the oil and were to get distracted you only have super hot oil or ruined oil that doesn’t really matter. Let it cool or heat a new batch. You still have what’s important. The raws.

ye I go for stirring over heat it takes me a good while to make all my Brews. Because I have it stirring for a long time I just prefer using the smallest heat possible and getting it into solution with stirring instead. I know theres no difference if you do use higher heat but to the stage its not damaging just my prefence is stirring cause the magnetic stirrer is easy to. with where I have my heat I could leave it for an hour by mistake and it still wouldn't be to hot =D. am not going to bs when its on the hotplate and stirring I play a game of league of legends when I wait lol. but to what you said that's why I add them at the end and I add ba after the Hotplate is turned of. It doesn't need any heat. and the bb just 5mins before turning it off

 

[Thegreek]

Like I said to each their own. We all have our own ways. My take on heat is this. You can wash dirty greasy dishes at room temp water and they will get clean. However you add some heat and it works so much easier and faster. Two ways to the same end. I get it done quick and easy. I don’t waste time or turn it into a project.