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[AllGoodThings]

I’m in favor of brewing the mast before testing but I know others may disagree. @OEP LABS any chance we can do a mast P at 200 / ml? Or 150?

That would be assume I’m pretty sure we had that discussion before though and people didn’t want 200 “cus it hurts” or something

Yep, too many pip sensitive people for that to fly, unfortunately. It's too bad we're in this BS shortage because otherwise I think we could have had some of it brewed at a higher concentration had there been more raws to start with.

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

Shit. I forgot. I think you’re right. 100 / ml is fine.

I mean I’d love 200

 

[OEP LABS]

I don't know dick about chemistry or brewing, but I was under the impression that degradation essentially meant a percentage of material was rendered inert, rather than it being some kind of contamination. I.E.: Let sealed raws sit in a poor storage location and they lose potency, but aren't necessarily getting filled with any contaminants or anything.

Someone can correct me if that is wrong though, please.

Edit: If that's accurate, folks would scoff at lower purity raws since they are getting fewer mg/g total for the same price I'd think.

This is basically also how I viewed as well. Basically age, storage, sunlight, environment all can affect the potency of the raw material. Same way they tell you to keep this med in fridge or certain antibiotics. Once I’m caught up with everyone invoices I can reach out to jano to verify.

 

[RockyP]

I mean I’d love 200

Me too but aside from the PIP issue is also the crashing which as we know isn’t a real problem (easy to just warm it up) but it can lead to a headache for the vendor (complaints). Pench is a man of the people (perhaps to a fault) and I think he’d be pulling his hair out with complaints about pip and crashed gear if he went for the 200. I’ve tried MastP200 from 2 solid vendors and both had issues with crashing (but no real bad pip to speak of).

 

[CHIEF M]

Me too but aside from the PIP issue is also the crashing which as we know isn’t a real problem (easy to just warm it up) but it can lead to a headache for the vendor (complaints). Pench is a man of the people (perhaps to a fault) and I think he’d be pulling his hair out with complaints about pip and crashed gear if he went for the 200. I’ve tried MastP200 from 2 solid vendors and both had issues with crashing (but no real bad pip to speak of).

Meet in the middle 150mg is good

 

[RockyP]

Meet in the middle 150mg is good

Up to Pench. Oddly I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 150 but would be PUMPED to try one @OEP LABS

I’m just being lazy at this point. I’d like to be able to run just under 1g a week and not graduate to the 3cc syringe. And no I wasn’t lucky enough to get the TD500. I don’t run the mast above 350-450 so 100/ml I can live with.

 

[newguy2]

I’m in favor of brewing the mast before testing but I know others may disagree. @OEP LABS any chance we can do a mast P at 200 / ml? Or 150?

Curious why is that, need it asap or something?

 

[AllGoodThings]

Meet in the middle 150mg is good

I'd be happy with this, and it was suggested, but I think the other issue, aside from pip concerns, was that there were limited raws, and the total yield in number of vials would be cut by 50%. I totally understand his reasoning with choosing to stick with the traditional 100mg/ml, even if I personally wasn't as excited about it.

 

[TanFishMan]

How long will you honor the 10% discount OEP would like to wait for more new Test D and preWO

 

[crispybacon!]

@OEP LABS - I’ve tried searching, but can’t find anything on whether or not the Test-D raws were sent for testing and if so, which tests? I’m a little concerned given the apparent low purity.

 

[RockyP]

Curious why is that, need it asap or something?

i'm down for whatever the group / Pench decides. No strong opinion one way or the other. I'm getting the vibe that most folks want to test all the raws and finished products which sounds good to me, especially given the recent developments.

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

I'd be happy with this, and it was suggested, but I think the other issue, aside from pip concerns, was that there were limited raws, and the total yield in number of vials would be cut by 50%. I totally understand his reasoning with choosing to stick with the traditional 100mg/ml, even if I personally wasn't as excited about it.

I’m with that but yea ultimately up to pench whatever he’s confident in he knows his shit

 

[Iron67]

How long will you honor the 10% discount OEP would like to wait for more new Test D and preWO

I don’t post often, but i’m always lurking and reading the forums. I’m a customer of OEP as well. The guy goes above and beyond to try and please everyone and is always looking for ways to better himself and his lab.

Your worried about 10% off because an oil was underdosed… It wasn’t even 10% below which i believe is pharmaceutical standards. What are you really saving in the end? Instead of a “hey man, it tested lower than expected i’m glad you are going to make sure it doesn’t happen again by testing raws etc… appreciate it!”

Cmon

 

[TanFishMan]

I don’t post often, but i’m always lurking and reading the forums. I’m a customer of OEP as well. The guy goes above and beyond to try and please everyone and is always looking for ways to better himself and his lab.

Your worried about 10% off because an oil was underdosed… It wasn’t even 10% below which i believe is pharmaceutical standards. What are you really saving in the end? Instead of a “hey man, it tested lower than expected i’m glad you are going to make sure it doesn’t happen again by testing raws etc… appreciate it!”

Cmon

lol k. I’ll ask to pay more than full price next time if it’s makes “random new member” happy

 

[AllGoodThings]

lol k. I’ll ask to pay more than full price next time if it’s makes “random new member” happy

It's rare, but sometimes sources offer to do more than they should when it comes to customer service. In those cases, especially when it's a small operation and a truly solid and respectable source/person, I will turn down such offers. You're obviously free to accept any offer for compensation or discount if you feel justified in doing so, that's entirely your prerogative, but don't make it sound ridiculous that others would choose not to and even give you a bit of a hard time for accepting it yourself.

 

[readalot]

It's rare, but sometimes sources offer to do more than they should when it comes to customer service. In those cases, especially when it's a small operation and a truly solid and respectable source/person, I will turn down such offers. You're obviously free to accept any offer for compensation or discount if you feel justified in doing so, that's entirely your prerogative, but don't make it sound ridiculous that others would choose not to and even give you a bit of a hard time for accepting it yourself.

Promo code: "GiveEm5".

Add 5 bucks on each vial or order. Customer can choose. Pay a little extra for a vendor that gives a damn.

 

[Iron67]

lol k. I’ll ask to pay more than full price next time if it’s makes “random new member” happy

lol. “random new member” been on here for 2 years which isn’t long by any means, but what does that matter…
i just don’t ever post. use the forums for knowledge and my own research more than anything. Didn’t mean to offend ya pal, was just more of a think how much the vendor does for his people and decide if the 10% off is really worth it in the end.

anyways good luck to ya.

 

[TanFishMan]

It's rare, but sometimes sources offer to do more than they should when it comes to customer service. In those cases, especially when it's a small operation and a truly solid and respectable source/person, I will turn down such offers. You're obviously free to accept any offer for compensation or discount if you feel justified in doing so, that's entirely your prerogative, but don't make it sound ridiculous that others would choose not to and even give you a bit of a hard time for accepting it yourself.

Thanks for the well reasoned thoughts. Much easier to intake then someone telling me how to feel and act

 

[RockyP]

Thanks for the well reasoned thoughts. Much easier to intake then someone telling me how to feel and act

It’s totally your call brother. I think if anything the thread goes to show how well thought of and appreciated @OEP LABS is. He will always make his clients whole, whatever that means to each person. We’re spoiled with the quality of some of these vendors on here.

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

I will take compensation via injectable pre workout thank you very much. No but yea I think we’re all cool here but I’ll speak for myself I suppose.