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If OEP offers it, I'll be replacing much of my stash too.
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If OEP offers it, I'll be replacing much of my stash too.
Photon
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I was actually looking for oil based carn so i can mix with TNE.
Glad to see someone having doing it successfully with water based suspensions..
What's your carn mg/ml?
bigdaddyandfriends
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Mine is 600mg/ml, usually I get it from Modern Aminos. It's fairly thick but will draw up in a 31g insulin pin just takes some time.
L-carnitine is zwitterionic/hydrophilic. I don't believe it is soluble in oil. Maybe they are using a chelated version that is different, like acety L-carnitine?
Not many do it, but you absolutely can mix oil and water in a syringe and inject, specifically because they do not mix. I do it on occasion and the syringe can look a little weird but both go in and get absorbed as expected. But you end up with a depot with oil and water components, and therefore there is effectively no dilution. So it is for convenience, ie one pin instead of two.
L-carnitine is zwitterionic/hydrophilic. I don't believe it is soluble in oil. Maybe they are using a chelated version that is different, like acety L-carnitine?
Not many do it, but you absolutely can mix oil and water in a syringe and inject, specifically because they do not mix. I do it on occasion and the syringe can look a little weird but both go in and get absorbed as expected. But you end up with a depot with oil and water components, and therefore there is effectively no dilution. So it is for convenience, ie one pin instead of two.
Oldhand
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We need to keep our eyes peeled for DHB. I bet Pench could brew a smooth one.
Whistles77
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Question for shits and giggles. What would happen if injecting a mix of oil based and water based compounds in the same lava lamp syringe? I guess no real problems other than possibility of contaminating the source vials?I was actually looking for oil based carn so i can mix with TNE.
Glad to see someone having doing it successfully with water based suspensions..
What's your carn mg/ml?
bigdaddyandfriends
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For sure, there are others doing it. DutchUSA (not on Meso) is one, I've been using it and it is crystal clear and typical thin/MCT consistency, with no PIP - of course it's only 100mg/ml but you also should be dosing this stuff more like trestolone or trenbolone than EQ, so high injection volumes should not be an issue. I need to learn about brewing (out of curiosity) but think the keys are finding high quality raws, brewing at the correct temp (it has a high melting point so brewer probably has to thread the needle between getting it to dissolve and overheating/burning), and using slightly higher amounts of BB compared to most other compounds.
I do think some DHB raws might be contaminated with M1T - there is a massive amount of that left over from when it was mass produced for OTC supplements, and that might explain why some see unusual liver toxicity with it. Biochemically, that should not be happening - in fact it should be less liver toxic than primobolan, which is identical except for the 1-methyl group which does little except gimp the compound and maybe give an AI effect in some people. It was added to DHB along with an acetate ester for oral availability, as primobolan acetate tablets. And it was left there when the 17-acetate ester was replaced with enanthate to make primobolan depot / Niban / Rimobolan, etc.
Most of the bloodwork I have seen on those using DHB show no or only minor elevations in ALT/AST which I suspect are primarily from lifting heavier, as it is the best AAS for strength... Obviously bad DHB with guaiacol is another story altogether, that compound is toxic when injected and can definitely cause major elections in GGT and Cystatin C. Fortunately it is easy to detect by smell, or by putting it on the outside of a syringe where it take the markings off.
Oldhand
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You should avoid mixing oil and water bases in the same syringe. Long story short it can lead to an abscess and or infection.
You can search Meso or Google for the scientific reason you shouldn’t mix them- it is a good read and nothing wrong with learning about it.
Talmad
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Just spent about 2 hours with Pench on instagram souping up a custom batch! This guy is stand up!!! Absolutely worked with me whole way and he got me the perfect Pussy Juice for my people who hate PIP! A+ he sent pics whole process when it delivers I will post landing!
Oldhand
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Wow! Most guys would keep the tricks of their trade under lock and key. That’s very refreshing to hear.
I hope the custom gear treats you right.
Talmad
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I get tired of all my buddies cry about pip and all that. Im not picky about stoppers or lids or vials but I can’t handle the babies crying pip he hooked me up for sure! I see a big future between us!
crispybacon!
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@OEP LABS any details you can share on this custom batch? Is this something you’ll be offering to the masses?
OEP LABS
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I would like to also thank @Talmad for the informative leads he gave me, vendors that can help us stay afloat during this dry spell we are unfortunately having.
It’s frustrating that my vendors alone can’t keep up with the demand. In trade for good info to help us all I gave my word I’d work him a nice trial batch.
Your word is everything so one must stand by it especially looking forward
It’s frustrating that my vendors alone can’t keep up with the demand. In trade for good info to help us all I gave my word I’d work him a nice trial batch.
Your word is everything so one must stand by it especially looking forward
OEP LABS
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Yessir under 15 TC for trade for solid leads to more vendors we can entertain for future materials. India can not keep up is the unfortunate truth
crispybacon!
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Gotcha… wasn’t trying to pry into the specifics of your deal. Was really just wondering if you brewed up some new concoction that might be of interest to the folks here.
Happy to hear you’re getting some more leads on raws!
OEP LABS
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To be specific it was telegram not Instagram. Question though, are other sources having the same issue in regards to grasping materials? The challenge seems to be passing the territory that is most vulnerable to material if you grasp what I’m saying
Talmad
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Talmad
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Yes it was telegram my phone auto corrected.
AllGoodThings
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But Dr Todd Lee told me I can mix all my oils, every single peptide, and my GH into the same syringe! He's a doctor you know!! Also, he taught me that every shorter ester absolutely sucks and is total garbage. Like I said, he's a Dr, so....
To be clear, I'm joking, most of that guys takes are ridiculous
RockyP
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Was waiting for someone to mention the great TL.
Also, he is far smarter than the pharmaceutical companies who developed HGH for injection. He knows that it is far better to use IM, and only complete MORONS follow the instructions of the chemists who created the drug and use it subcutaneously. IDIOTS!
As an aside, his literal advice for using DHB is to take a much as you can until you see liver damage, then back off. That is NOT a joke, he did say that (but it is a joke if you follow that advice).
Talmad
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Just a very mild dose for the candies
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