OEP LABS Domestic

[crispybacon!]

It appears this has cause a lot more movement than I thought. It all depends on how view the situation if your in it. However, I am willing to cancel for the sake of troubling someone so bad. As a source I have to be ready to be put under pressure everyday and Twice on Sunday, same goes if I’m pushed for deadlines to be meet, threats to be taken in, you name it. I’ve unfortunately intake it all while working under a deadline. It becomes of your environment to either survive or not. Sink or swim right. Im rambling again. To the point I’ll cancel this and use the $600 that I paid to Lab4tox on my own personal nonsense. Let me know

Real quick before I go, picked up some upgrades for this machine. The R485 communication module built in relay with a usb cord electronic gizzmos now we are talking my field. Combine electrical controls circuit boards along with mechanical outputs and commands, I can’t even explain it in words. Anyhow let me know if I should cancel this as a community I don’t want to start anything bad. I let this be discussed amongst everyone I’ll check back soon

@OEP LABS was a specific concern raised?

As others have said, I think testing these other labs is a great idea. I’m not sure why anyone would be opposed. If I’m reading your message correctly, you still intend to test with Jano, but also adding other labs. So if anyone has concerns, you’ll still have Jano results.

Perhaps down the road, if another lab proves themselves as reliable as Jano, that might change. But I still don’t see the issue. Jano is clearly overwhelmed and this market is long overdue for some alternatives.

 

[OEP LABS]

I believe in the free market and competition, so my position is multiple testing options is obviously better for the community. There should be plenty of room in that space for multiple labs to be very successful, I would question anyone who would try to stifle competition.

Your thoughts were exactly like mine, sole purpose sir, just to have solids alternatives nothing more, swear it On my mother’s grave.


With that said, If your not hear to be competitive and maintain ground, I don’t have answer for hat said person. Meso has always made sure to keep you on your toes. The beauty of this platform than others fear the most.

Once again that’s all I was ever after alternatives. I will show proof because I sent a sample to Chemtox Laboratories way back in the day just because I was curios attached pic. Check the date.

 

[OEP LABS]

So with the community leaning forward with it.

We will put this in Stone and let it will Remain.

 

[Inkniron87]

Your original idea had the community in mind and it was gonna do nothing but help. This is what sets you apart to begin with. We all see it, we all know it. Roll with it.

 

[adrenalytic]

@OEP LABS Searched the thread and couldn't find the answer. Re: testing reimbursement, do you do BTC or store credit? And confused about the policy, is it $150 capped? Or do you cover testing fees plus that? Thanks in advance.

 

[Ryan Veneficus]

It appears this has cause a lot more movement than I thought. It all depends on how view the situation if your in it. However, I am willing to cancel for the sake of troubling someone so bad. As a source I have to be ready to be put under pressure everyday and Twice on Sunday, same goes if I’m pushed for deadlines to be meet, threats to be taken in, you name it. I’ve unfortunately intake it all while working under a deadline. It becomes of your environment to either survive or not. Sink or swim right. Im rambling again. To the point I’ll cancel this and use the $600 that I paid to Lab4tox on my own personal nonsense. Let me know

Real quick before I go, picked up some upgrades for this machine. The R485 communication module built in relay with a usb cord electronic gizzmos now we are talking my field. Combine electrical controls circuit boards along with mechanical outputs and commands, I can’t even explain it in words. Anyhow let me know if I should cancel this as a community I don’t want to start anything bad. I let this be discussed amongst everyone I’ll check back soon

If any of the testing labs are giving you trouble then that just reflects very poorly on them. If all the testing labs are doing things correctly, and it's a repeatable scientific process, then there should be no concern about who's results are more accurate. They should all be accurate theoretically. So if someone is giving you crap about it, I'd say they're worried about something being found out. That would be like telling us not to double check the products that we buy from the sources here. Imagine if a source told people whatever you do don't send my stuff out for testing or I'll be pissed. We would all immediately stop using that source because it would like they're knowingly selling fake gear.
I don't see what the labs would have a problem with. If there's a lot of different variations in the results then that shows that someone's doing something wrong. And then it would be up to them to figure out who's doing what right and who isn't and then everyone get their act together. There could always be minor variations just due to all kinds of factors with the material that I've probably never heard of. But a repeatable scientific process should be just that. There should not be wild variations or results that completely disagree with each other.
It looks like everyone's on the same page here but I'll just add an extra vote, Keep at it. It's about time somebody watched the watchers, as it were.

 

[S1L3NC3D]

"If your not hear to be competitive and maintain ground, I don’t have answer for that said person"

This is life. If that said person cant handle being fact checked, then to me that presents some questions and possibly problems. Competion is healthy, once its not that also presents questions and problems.
I would not let any said person to dictate my goals and business operations. At the end of the day you have reasons for running your business how you run it. You shouldn't have to defend your decisions or yourself.

 

[OEP LABS]

If any of the testing labs are giving you trouble then that just reflects very poorly on them. If all the testing labs are doing things correctly, and it's a repeatable scientific process, then there should be no concern about who's results are more accurate. They should all be accurate theoretically. So if someone is giving you crap about it, I'd say they're worried about something being found out. That would be like telling us not to double check the products that we buy from the sources here. Imagine if a source told people whatever you do don't send my stuff out for testing or I'll be pissed. We would all immediately stop using that source because it would like they're knowingly selling fake gear.
I don't see what the labs would have a problem with. If there's a lot of different variations in the results then that shows that someone's doing something wrong. And then it would be up to them to figure out who's doing what right and who isn't and then everyone get their act together. There could always be minor variations just due to all kinds of factors with the material that I've probably never heard of. But a repeatable scientific process should be just that. There should not be wild variations or results that completely disagree with each other.
It looks like everyone's on the same page here but I'll just add an extra vote, Keep at it. It's about time somebody watched the watchers, as it were.

What an amazing explanation somthing I struggle the most with. Is just that, explaining what’s going on in my mind but it seems somehow your ripped the chapter right out of it and placed it on written black and white. There’s no turning back now after what you said. I’m on the same page my man. Heading back to the shop to continue the work. Analyzer will recieve many samples I wil update everyone once completed ready to fly on my set mini Andro P has a long flight but he’s ready for Mach 1 and Mach 2. Let us proceed

 

[S1L3NC3D]

You're not hear to burn bridges, but build new ones.

We all see that. This is why people speak highly of you, and your reputation precedes you. Keep being you , dont change for others.

 

[OEP LABS]

You're not hear to burn bridges, but build new ones.

We all see that. This is why people speak highly of you, and your reputation precedes you. Keep being you , dont change for others.

Thank you Sir, these words, is the exact fuel that’s keeps the machine Driving forward. Stay blessed.

 

[Bwhistle]

So with the community leaning forward with it.

We will put this in Stone and let it will Remain.

Sir Pench,

Into the dark night you march my friend. Clear mind full heart. There is zero downside to this, and you are testing your own product. Full speed ahead. Anyone complaining, perhaps frustrated they did not publicize it first. This is an experiment to vet, to make transparent, and to benefit all. The community is behind you good sir, don't for a second let 1 degree of sentiment shift your organic navigation.

Bb

 

[OEP LABS]

Your original idea had the community in mind and it was gonna do nothing but help. This is what sets you apart to begin with. We all see it, we all know it. Roll with it.

Thank you Sir we have had many discussions and that is why i stay grounded to the community because the choices ground level is what matters to me the most.

. I’ve learned this working myself for a high end electronics company for over 2 decades. The management pencil whippers no offense though guys, seem to think that they know more than the folks actually installing the communication systems or Nav on said machine if it’s not working properly. Why because I’ve seen them fail day in and day out.

I’m talking too much. I’ll get my rear end fo work.

 

[Inkniron87]

Thank you Sir we have had many discussions and that is why i stay grounded to the community because the choices ground level is what matters to me the most.

. I’ve learned this working myself for a high end electronics company for over 2 decades. The management pencil whippers no offense though guys, seem to think that they know more than the folks actually installing the communication systems or Nav on said machine if it’s not working properly. Why because I’ve seen them fail day in and day out.

I’m talking too much. I’ll get my rear end fo work.

Brother I can tell you it’s that way a lot of places. The people in charge think they know better than the ones dealing with stuff day in and day out. Deal with that in my profession and funny thing is a lot of them never actually did the job they wanna make the changes and rules for. College educated maybe, but common sense and the know how’s, nope. Glad we got it all figured out and set.

 

[osqe]

@OEP LABS Searched the thread and couldn't find the answer. Re: testing reimbursement, do you do BTC or store credit? And confused about the policy, is it $150 capped? Or do you cover testing fees plus that? Thanks in advance.

I see why you can be confused by the wording on the first page, but he will cover 100% of the expense for testing sent to places like Jano, as it says “also if you sent to any Laboratory, whether it being Jano, Chemtox, Lab4tox or whoever I encourage it and will credit you in whatever expense you paid.”
The phrasing “whatever expense you paid” clearly expresses covering 100% of the cost required for the testing while the “also” insinuates this further as it implies being separate from the $150 statement at the start of the sentence.

 

[OEP LABS]

Okay SOP of blind samples Monday

Sir Pench,

Into the dark night you march my friend. Clear mind full heart. There is zero downside to this, and you are testing your own product. Full speed ahead. Anyone complaining, perhaps frustrated they did not publicize it first. This is an experiment to vet, to make transparent, and to benefit all. The community is behind you good sir, don't for a second let 1 degree of sentiment shift your organic navigation.

Bb

Mr. B, into the Dark I absolutely love it. The man with blood work questions I got you brother just pls 1 quick moments sir please.

Blind samples Procedures. SOP.

Question.

Do I reach out to 1 or 2 reputable members and give him the sequence of everything that way there are deviations? More so to check if there is a by far out sequence something was done incorrectly. Do I tell anyone or no?

Do I sample and send is what I’m asking

@Photon your guidance could be used

Edit: I’ll await instructions

 

[Bwhistle]

Are you asking if you should have members send it in vs yourself? Or I may be misinterpreting Mr P. Sling it a slightly different way and maybe I can play ball. I will say, simplicity sake is that someone can try to "poo poo" and claim alterations from any source that sends. I don't think the community buys it especially given what you are trying to accomplish here. Again, perhaps rephrase.

Bb

 

[Photon]

Okay SOP of blind samples Monday

Mr. B, into the Dark I absolutely love it. The man with blood work questions I got you brother just pls 1 quick moments sir please.

Blind samples Procedures. SOP.

Question.

Do I reach out to 1 or 2 reputable members and give him the sequence of everything that way there are deviations? More so to check if there is a by far out sequence something was done incorrectly. Do I tell anyone or no?

Do I sample and send is what I’m asking

@Photon your guidance could be used

Edit: I’ll await instructions

I don't think there's anything to vet...I'm sure the guys here trust you. As long as the compound names and doses aren't on the samples I think it's good. Whether you tell any or not..I'm sure the labs won't know what hit them

 

[OEP LABS]

I’m gonna began

Are you asking if you should have members send it in vs yourself? Or I may be misinterpreting Mr P. Sling it a slightly different way and maybe I can play ball. I will say, simplicity sake is that someone can try to "poo poo" and claim alterations from any source that sends. I don't think the community buys it especially given what you are trying to accomplish here. Again, perhaps rephrase.

Bb

Basically what Photon said to make sure everything was properly done.

I don't think there's anything to vet...I'm sure the guys here trust you. As long as the compound names and doses aren't on the samples I think it's good. Whether you tell any or not..I'm sure the labs won't know what hit them

Copy that ghost rider.
Analyzer did say just put a number onthem and nothing more. I can do that for all. As a number is just a number. I we all in agreement?

 

[Bwhistle]

If there is doubt, you can always dawn a deadmau5 head gear and video tape the process. LOL

And bring such footage out only to tell people to stfu

Bb

 

[Bwhistle]

I’m gonna began

Basically what Photon said to make sure everything was properly done.

Copy that ghost rider.
Analyzer did say just put a number onthem and nothing more. I can do that for all. As a number is just a number. I we all in agreement?

Nothing descriptive WHATSOEVER, symbol . number, as long as there is no recognizable pattern, fair game.