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[ZaddyZonar]

When samples were sent. The 2 batches were combined as 1. Then the sample was taken for it tobe tested

You are 100% correct. Priory to that one. Our very first TD drop was like this one. In the 80’s in regards to purity. While the pip is still not noticeably present even in low purity. Yes you can tell when it’s 95% because it’s feels, as if you didn’t even pin anything, whatsoever the following day.

I’ll begin compound the remaining compounds per the reports.

Is TNE the last you’re waiting on from Jano?

 

[AllbrandNew]

Our very first TD drop was like this one. In the 80’s in regards to purity. While the pip is still not noticeably present even in low purity. Yes you can tell when it’s 95% because it’s feels, as if you didn’t even pin anything, whatsoever the following day.

FWIW, I got 0 PIP from any iteration of the TD500. Even the testing batch was great, just lower concentration as a result. That current purity is not ideal, so I won't comment on whether it's worth brewing or not as that's above my pay grade, but I couldn't tell the difference in pinning the first to last batches.

 

[Whistles77]

When samples were sent. The 2 batches were combined as 1. Then the sample was taken for it tobe tested

You are 100% correct. Priory to that one. Our very first TD drop was like this one. In the 80’s in regards to purity. While the pip is still not noticeably present even in low purity. Yes you can tell when it’s 95% because it’s feels, as if you didn’t even pin anything, whatsoever the following day.

I’ll begin compound the remaining compounds per the reports.

Im still interested in it

 

[Whistles77]

FWIW, I got 0 PIP from any iteration of the TD500. Even the testing batch was great, just lower concentration as a result. That current purity is not ideal, so I won't comment on whether it's worth brewing or not as that's above my pay grade, but I couldn't tell the difference in pinning the first to last batches.

Good to know it shouldn’t affect pip. Thank you

 

[OEP LABS]

Is TNE the last you’re waiting on from Jano?

That one is in route due to the vendor and I having a back and fourth long winded dispute. However, an agreement was made and everything was resolved.
I will send it no matter for testing and show all as the report comes. Apologies that dispute happened however, for the future it was good and the vendor is 100% moving and doing what they promised todo. So it is good for us all.

 

[crispybacon!]

If anyone would know these specific questions it would be the man himself. I emailed Jano seeking guidance on TD in regards to members questions and concerns. Once I hear back from him I will share his experience.

Looking forward to seeing if Jano can provide any insights.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

That one is in route due to the vendor and I having a back and fourth long winded dispute. However, an agreement was made and everything was resolved.
I will send it no matter for testing and show all as the report comes. Apologies that dispute happened however, for the future it was good and the vendor is 100% moving and doing what they promised todo. So it is good for us all.

Nothing to apologize about. Appreciate your testing.

Curious to hear what Jano has to say about the TD.

 

[Chadlitee]

320mg test E 150 npp weekly zero pip great quality gear will continue to buying for years.

 

[Oldhand]

Can we discuss Purity on TD and if we feel it is deemed usable.

Along with purity on TRE can we say 88% is considered passing?

IMO I’d brew both of them. This is a tough market right now, there is no guarantee the next batch of raws would be in the 90’s.

At least you know the purity so the gear will be dosed correctly. Hopefully Jano has an idea/insight, but I’d still say go for it.

 

[abaddon616]

IMO I’d brew both of them. This is a tough market right now, there is no guarantee the next batch of raws would be in the 90’s.

At least you know the purity so the gear will be dosed correctly. Hopefully Jano has an idea/insight, but I’d still say go for it.

I agree with this but I'd definitely be asking for some reimbursement from the vendor so it doesn't effect your bottom line.

 

[OEP LABS]

View attachment 374942320mg test E 150 npp weekly zero pip great quality gear will continue to buying for years.

Thank you sir I have your credit awaiting my man. At your convenience email me.

IMO I’d brew both of them. This is a tough market right now, there is no guarantee the next batch of raws would be in the 90’s.

At least you know the purity so the gear will be dosed correctly. Hopefully Jano has an idea/insight, but I’d still say go for it.

Thank you @Oldhand I’m going to brew up a small batch to make sure their is no haze, cloudiness, or anything unfamiliar in regards to characteristics to Test Decaonate while we also wait for Jano’s blessing. I was discussing the purity with some members that are in the scientific field and they advised me to do this. Not a bad idea at all. It will give us an idea of the end result

I agree with this but I'd definitely be asking for some reimbursement from the vendor so it doesn't effect your bottom line.

Most definitely will reach out the the vendor

 

[OEP LABS]

While I set up this machine to work these compounds I also reached out to Lab4Tox. The main Lab Analysis Representative was very helpful in answering all my last questions prior to sending samples. The questions below is what I sent her. If anyone would like add please voice your opinion and I will send it her way.

These below, are the questions I sent her. Jano touched on purity via email with me awhile back, I am searching for that email.

I had some questions if I may ask?

If a raw testosterone powder that tested for example low purity, possibly one that tested 84%. In your opinion would that be harmful to the human body ?

In your opinion what this be considered no good ?

Last question if I may ask at what purity would you consider it not usable or degraded past its use?

Thank you

 

[Bwhistle]

The best there is folks^^

 

[BALLISTIC]

While I set up this machine to work these compounds I also reached out to Lab4Tox. The main Lab Analysis Representative was very helpful in answering all my last questions prior to sending samples. The questions below is what I sent her. If anyone would like add please voice your opinion and I will send it her way.

These below, are the questions I sent her. Jano touched on purity via email with me awhile back, I am searching for that email.

I had some questions if I may ask?

If a raw testosterone powder that tested for example low purity, possibly one that tested 84%. In your opinion would that be harmful to the human body ?

In your opinion what this be considered no good ?

Last question if I may ask at what purity would you consider it not usable or degraded past its use?

Thank you

I have limited knowledge but I think it's not inherently toxic just because it’s 84%.
Testosterone itself doesn’t suddenly become poisonous at lower purity. The risk depends on what makes up the missing 16%.....

 

[OEP LABS]

I have limited knowledge but I think it's not inherently toxic just because it’s 84%.
Testosterone itself doesn’t suddenly become poisonous at lower purity. The risk depends on what makes up the missing 16%.....

I agree with you in regards to it not being toxic. Valid concern when you mentioned the remaining 16%.

While its fresh on on their mind. I will inquire with Jano and Lab4Tox if there are any other identifying tests that can be performed on the material for further analysis.

 

[bananafeet]

Yeah a good amount. Goal for this blast was to build lagging body parts and 2g definitely did the job. Shoulders and traps are popping out way more now and the build feels more sustainable unlike the temporary pop you get from something like deca, tren, or anadrol, if that makes sense

Can you explain to me why more people don't just run higher testosterone? It's cheap, readily available, you can measure it on a blood test, it doesn't destroy your liver or give weird blood pressure surges, doesn't numb your penis, doesn't wreck lipid profiles, doesn't cause CRP to spike, doesn't give crippling knots/PIP, doesn't need weird ass solvents to suspend it, has multiple esters, doesn't have weird estrogens produced that are impossible to measure, doesn't have weird ass metabolites that take 12 months to clear the system, doesn't wreck SHBG, doesn't have weird mental effects, doesn't have weird progestogenic effects.

I just don't get it.... Is it just the estrogen/hairloss angle?

There must be something I am missing here. For example I have most steroids in stock but I can't think of a good reason why I would run them instead of just increasing the testosterone dose....

Or do you hit like 3grams and it stops working? If that's the case then only pros would ever need tren, deca etc.

 

[danny91t]

Can you explain to me why more people don't just run higher testosterone? It's cheap, readily available, you can measure it on a blood test, it doesn't destroy your liver or give weird blood pressure surges, doesn't numb your penis, doesn't wreck lipid profiles, doesn't cause CRP to spike, doesn't give crippling knots/PIP, doesn't need weird ass solvents to suspend it, has multiple esters, doesn't have weird estrogens produced that are impossible to measure, doesn't have weird ass metabolites that take 12 months to clear the system, doesn't wreck SHBG, doesn't have weird mental effects, doesn't have weird progestogenic effects.

I just don't get it.... Is it just the estrogen/hairloss angle?

There must be something I am missing here. For example I have most steroids in stock but I can't think of a good reason why I would run them instead of just increasing the testosterone dose....

Or do you hit like 3grams and it stops working? If that's the case then only pros would ever need tren, deca etc.

In an ideal and perfect world this is what everyone would and should be doing

Some people don't react to Test as efficiently or are too sensitive to sides. Also consider the point of diminishing returns varies from individual.

Some work and grow better including other compounds. Other stuff grows muscle and build strength better mg per mg compared to test as well

I run high test because ive found that works best for me. Not always running Test only blasts btw always stack it with EQ and throw other compounds to the stack every now and then. Would have loved to throw some Aboms to that 2g blast but didnt feel like crashing my lipids lol

 

[bananafeet]

In an ideal and perfect world this is what everyone would and should be doing

Some people don't react to Test as efficiently or are too sensitive to sides. Also consider the point of diminishing returns varies from individual.

Some work and grow better including other compounds. Other stuff grows muscle better mg per mg compared to test as well

I run high test because ive found that works best for me. Not always running Test only blasts btw always stack it with EQ and throw other compounds to the stack every now and then. Would have loved to throw some Aboms to that 2g blast but didnt feel like crashing my lipids lol

Yes I understand the anabolism part. But for me the tolerability part is more significant.

Like 500mg test E and 500mg nandralone has me running higher urea and HCT than testosterone 1000mg.

Considering how long you have to run these drugs for my mental model sort of shows me that the only sustainable high dose strategy is testosterone and maybe HGH and some insulin. But the last two have diabeties risks.

Anyway I'm still relatively new to this so I'm trying to get my head around it.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I agree with you in regards to it not being toxic. Valid concern when you mentioned the remaining 16%.

While its fresh on on their mind. I will inquire with Jano and Lab4Tox if there are any other identifying tests that can be performed on the material for further analysis.

you can do GCMS and run the results through an AI program, but we are very early on the learning curve of understanding these data

I mean, we have a handful of GCMS reports and there are not many clearly improved understandings of anything

for example: some weird compound on GCMS → A Ha! → clearly the cause of.... what, exactly?

 

[Inkniron87]

Crown Royal bag filled with coin ready to dump upon your desk sir.