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[OEP LABS]

Thank you @OEP LABS! Pench’s oils are smooth as fuck! Started bast this week finally getting a chance to run OEP Labs gear, top notch! The test p is so smooth not even a hint of pip. I think these are the tightest vials I have ever drawn oil out of, definitely need to pressurize first! Pench you Sir are a gentleman and a scholar!

Brother you've been with me on this journey since day 1. You're support means a lot more than you might think my man. Sincerely mean that no BS. Thank you for everything!

I really dont see a problem with this at all. as long as we know what the actual dose it, we can adjust when using it.

I guess Thank You Pench for giving us more than what we paid for?

Much Love!

Thank you sir, valid point you make about the knowing the milligram

That only makes me look forward to the 20th, somehow more than I already was.

Thank you sir, Its gonna be a good one in my opinion.


If I may request Guidance/Advice Please from the Community

Requesting input and guidance once again from the community please. This idea came to mind for the reason of increasing quantity but want to make sure that it is safe. Main reason, I’m reaching out to everyone for guidance. Well I got this idea to be frank from a member here. So Test D, since I know the batch is same, I understand this isn’t the correct steps, bear with me 1 moment though.

Okay say I take an educated guess in regard to the target milligram; however, that’s not the important issue here it’s more the low purity of the compound. Previously we did a GCMS test on the material due to the remaining percent on Test Deaconate. Since it was 84% we performed a GCMS test to dig a little deeper and found out the remaining 16%, the idea came from a member. Jano team concluded the remaining 16% it was unbound ester and degradation. Question now

If I took an educated guess and performed a GCMS Test on the Finished Oil and also a HPLC Test for target milligram. Would a GCMS Test on the finished oil after review be enough to call the finished oil safe? Please let me know your thoughts everyone. Nothing has been done but today is the time to do it. I can perform the work and fire off the sample. Get it there in the 3 days. Pay for rush delivery results and Jano team can have to us before the open date. Would be more for everyone. I need to send off more samples anyhow

 

[Earthworm Jim]

Most people can figure it out without the hand out. So this post was unnecessary

You're grandstanding which is a form of psychological manipulation. I'm glad he reposted it. I have a busy life outside the gym and struggle to keep up with Pench's ever changing opening dates and have missed out before. I think I figured out the trick though. Keep an open tab on his pastebin

 

[Vikingo]

Brother you've been with me on this journey since day 1. You're support means a lot more than you might think my man. Sincerely mean that no BS. Thank you for everything!


Thank you sir, valid point you make about the knowing the milligram

Thank you sir, Its gonna be a good one in my opinion.


If I may request Guidance/Advice Please from the Community

Requesting input and guidance once again from the community please. This idea came to mind for the reason of increasing quantity but want to make sure that it is safe. Main reason, I’m reaching out to everyone for guidance. Well I got this idea to be frank from a member here. So Test D, since I know the batch is same, I understand this isn’t the correct steps, bear with me 1 moment though.

Okay say I take an educated guess in regard to the target milligram; however, that’s not the important issue here it’s more the low purity of the compound. Previously we did a GCMS test on the material due to the remaining percent on Test Deaconate. Since it was 84% we performed a GCMS test to dig a little deeper and found out the remaining 16%, the idea came from a member. Jano team concluded the remaining 16% it was unbound ester and degradation. Question now

If I took an educated guess and performed a GCMS Test on the Finished Oil and also a HPLC Test for target milligram. Would a GCMS Test on the finished oil after review be enough to call the finished oil safe? Please let me know your thoughts everyone. Nothing has been done but today is the time to do it. I can perform the work and fire off the sample. Get it there in the 3 days. Pay for rush delivery results and Jano team can have to us before the open date. Would be more for everyone. I need to send off more samples anyhow

IMO yes. If the finished oil GCMS looks good I would pin it no problem.

 

[OEP LABS]

IMO yes. If the finished oil GCMS looks good I would pin it no problem.

Thank you Sir for this input. Those were my thoughts as well as we'd be taking a final review of the end process

You're grandstanding which is a form of psychological manipulation. I'm glad he reposted it. I have a busy life outside the gym and struggle to keep up with Pench's ever changing opening dates and have missed out before. I think I figured out the trick though. Keep an open tab on his pastebin

Say the word Mr. Jim and send me an email. 1-2 days prior I can blow that email up notifying you sir like a bad angry ex girlfriend lol

 

[ZaddyZonar]

Okay say I take an educated guess in regard to the target milligram; however, that’s not the important issue here it’s more the low purity of the compound. Previously we did a GCMS test on the material due to the remaining percent on Test Deaconate. Since it was 84% we performed a GCMS test to dig a little deeper and found out the remaining 16%, the idea came from a member. Jano team concluded the remaining 16% it was unbound ester and degradation. Question now

If I took an educated guess and performed a GCMS Test on the Finished Oil and also a HPLC Test for target milligram. Would a GCMS Test on the finished oil after review be enough to call the finished oil safe? Please let me know your thoughts everyone. Nothing has been done but today is the time to do it. I can perform the work and fire off the sample. Get it there in the 3 days. Pay for rush delivery results and Jano team can have to us before the open date. Would be more for everyone. I need to send off more samples anyhow

GCMS would put a lot of people’s mind at ease, myself included. I’d buy the limit if it looks good

 

[hard_gains]

You're grandstanding which is a form of psychological manipulation.

No idea what this means. What's that in normal talk.

I'm glad he reposted it.

Why? It's easily seen in his paste bin.

 

[OEP LABS]

GCMS would put a lot of people’s mind at ease, myself included. I’d buy the limit if it looks good

Well then...sounds like the Androgen Pigeon needs a solid preflight, might lose a wing traveling this fast. Let us see what we can do Men, Ill be checking in back in shortly.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

Well then...sounds like the Androgen Pigeon needs a solid preflight, might lose a wing traveling this fast. Let us see what we can do Men, Ill be checking in back in shortly.

 

[abaddon616]

It doesnt hurt my feeling at all, I mean, its just the internet, I close the website and its out of my mind. But being friendly isnt something unmanly, it should be normal behaviour, regardless of being in a forum chat or in reallife, dont u think?

It's not about being friendly when the whole purpose of this forum is harm reduction. You need to see it from our side for a minute. Here's the problem, first you get a bunch of new people with no idea what they're doing just know they wanna blast some tren or something and they aren't taking the time to even understand what tren is supposed to do. Then you have a very trusted and highly sought after source that gets flooded with a bunch of kids posting shit on tik tok trying to be cool or something and next thing you know it's ruined for everyone. Discretion is a major player in this space and we don't spoon feed because it helps eliminate some of the riff raff so to speak. In doing so, we might be harsh with our words. Also lately it's every thread everyday asking for price list and contact info when it's always and I mean always within the last 5-10 pages of the ask.

 

[Ryan Veneficus]

Well then...sounds like the Androgen Pigeon needs a solid preflight, might lose a wing traveling this fast. Let us see what we can do Men, Ill be checking in back in shortly.

I'll also buy if the gcms looks good. Probably even if it's a little less then good.

 

[danny91t]

It's not about being friendly when the whole purpose of this forum is harm reduction. You need to see it from our side for a minute. Here's the problem, first you get a bunch of new people with no idea what they're doing just know they wanna blast some tren or something and they aren't taking the time to even understand what tren is supposed to do. Then you have a very trusted and highly sought after source that gets flooded with a bunch of kids posting shit on tik tok trying to be cool or something and next thing you know it's ruined for everyone. Discretion is a major player in this space and we don't spoon feed because it helps eliminate some of the riff raff so to speak. In doing so, we might be harsh with our words. Also lately it's every thread everyday asking for price list and contact info when it's always and I mean always within the last 5-10 pages of the ask.

shhhh you're making too much sense

 

[BALLISTIC]

Brother you've been with me on this journey since day 1. You're support means a lot more than you might think my man. Sincerely mean that no BS. Thank you for everything!


Thank you sir, valid point you make about the knowing the milligram

Thank you sir, Its gonna be a good one in my opinion.


If I may request Guidance/Advice Please from the Community

Requesting input and guidance once again from the community please. This idea came to mind for the reason of increasing quantity but want to make sure that it is safe. Main reason, I’m reaching out to everyone for guidance. Well I got this idea to be frank from a member here. So Test D, since I know the batch is same, I understand this isn’t the correct steps, bear with me 1 moment though.

Okay say I take an educated guess in regard to the target milligram; however, that’s not the important issue here it’s more the low purity of the compound. Previously we did a GCMS test on the material due to the remaining percent on Test Deaconate. Since it was 84% we performed a GCMS test to dig a little deeper and found out the remaining 16%, the idea came from a member. Jano team concluded the remaining 16% it was unbound ester and degradation. Question now

If I took an educated guess and performed a GCMS Test on the Finished Oil and also a HPLC Test for target milligram. Would a GCMS Test on the finished oil after review be enough to call the finished oil safe? Please let me know your thoughts everyone. Nothing has been done but today is the time to do it. I can perform the work and fire off the sample. Get it there in the 3 days. Pay for rush delivery results and Jano team can have to us before the open date. Would be more for everyone. I need to send off more samples anyhow

Unbound ester/degradation products are a chemistry quality issue, not your fault, Pench. There was no reasonable way for you to know, and you went above and beyond to identify what that remaining 16% actually was when I asked. That’s appreciated by me, and I’m sure by others as well.

Testing the finished oil may confirm what’s already suspected, but it doesn’t resolve injectable safety. There can still be unknown degradants present that aren’t well characterized or clearly identified. Better yet I know just the guy @Photon to answer better than I'm capable in just learning. He's gonna get sick of me tagging him soon.

 

[jpe1]

I tried the search bar, but didnt find anything.

 

[Dial It In]

In the interest of stirring the pot. If you are going to bust people’s nuts about stuff make sure you didn’t do the exact same stuff. Telling people to do a member intro when you didn’t even do one is laughable also. Even if it was a crap one it means you at least read the forum etiquette page. Anyway, stuff is looking good Pench you know I’ll pin it.

 

[Dial It In]

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More than one way to skin a cat

 

[Scooby69]

Brother you've been with me on this journey since day 1. You're support means a lot more than you might think my man. Sincerely mean that no BS. Thank you for everything!


Thank you sir, valid point you make about the knowing the milligram

Thank you sir, Its gonna be a good one in my opinion.


If I may request Guidance/Advice Please from the Community

Requesting input and guidance once again from the community please. This idea came to mind for the reason of increasing quantity but want to make sure that it is safe. Main reason, I’m reaching out to everyone for guidance. Well I got this idea to be frank from a member here. So Test D, since I know the batch is same, I understand this isn’t the correct steps, bear with me 1 moment though.

Okay say I take an educated guess in regard to the target milligram; however, that’s not the important issue here it’s more the low purity of the compound. Previously we did a GCMS test on the material due to the remaining percent on Test Deaconate. Since it was 84% we performed a GCMS test to dig a little deeper and found out the remaining 16%, the idea came from a member. Jano team concluded the remaining 16% it was unbound ester and degradation. Question now

If I took an educated guess and performed a GCMS Test on the Finished Oil and also a HPLC Test for target milligram. Would a GCMS Test on the finished oil after review be enough to call the finished oil safe? Please let me know your thoughts everyone. Nothing has been done but today is the time to do it. I can perform the work and fire off the sample. Get it there in the 3 days. Pay for rush delivery results and Jano team can have to us before the open date. Would be more for everyone. I need to send off more samples anyhow

I'm not sure if GCMS on the finished oil will be any more informative than what we already know from the raws. The impurities were largely free decanoic acid (unbound ester) and a steroidal impurity that is likely a synthesis byproduct or degradation product.

Still, there is no harm in doing the GCMS of the oil anyway to assuage any concerns. And as Ballistic states, I defer to the experience of Photon.

 

[AllbrandNew]

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I think many of these new folks read the current page or pages and give up or something. I dunno.

 

[cap’nboldenone]

Janoshik Analytical

Over shot the Ment. I will work on this sincerely meaning this.

I can assure you we don’t mind. All this means is that if I want 10mg of ment I only have to pin .16 instead of .2

 

[DeodatoFulci]

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I think many of these new folks read the current page or pages and give up or something. I dunno.

They prefer to be spoonfed, as if spending time on this forum is a waste of time somehow. Their time is more valuable than ours apparently. Being on top of vendor threads is absolutely crucial, not sure why this is so hard for lazy newbies to understand this.

 

[OEP LABS]

Unbound ester/degradation products are a chemistry quality issue, not your fault, Pench. There was no reasonable way for you to know, and you went above and beyond to identify what that remaining 16% actually was when I asked. That’s appreciated by me, and I’m sure by others as well.

Testing the finished oil may confirm what’s already suspected, but it doesn’t resolve injectable safety. There can still be unknown degradants present that aren’t well characterized or clearly identified. Better yet I know just the guy @Photon to answer better than I'm capable in just learning. He's gonna get sick of me tagging him soon.

Ok you have my attention, so your saying maybe test the material with a GCMS rather than the finished oil?

I'm not sure if GCMS on the finished oil will be any more informative than what we already know from the raws. The impurities were largely free decanoic acid (unbound ester) and a steroidal impurity that is likely a synthesis byproduct or degradation product.

Still, there is no harm in doing the GCMS of the oil anyway to assuage any concerns. And as Ballistic states, I defer to the experience of Photon.

Scoob! good to see you Sir, by the way this is material that just landed but same batch and lot number. Same look and all. Was checking with the community the best and safest route to test and analyze the material prior to use. If a finished oil GCMS sample would be compliant. Ill pull a material sample as well just in case