Morefyah
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I was wondering if anyone has any experience with oil based stano?
If so how would you compare it to oral winny?
If so how would you compare it to oral winny?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Oil based stanozolol opinions
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THATGUYTHISGUY
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Maybe 9 years later someone would have some insight / experience with it. I see WWB carries it but is out of stock. I can't find much information about it. Anything?
THATGUYTHISGUY
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Searching "Winstrol Oil" did turn up more results but not much.
bananafeet
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Why? It's highly available orally and has a long half life.
Making an injectable will just increase the strain on the liver by increasing the exposure window.
Plus the oral version is very cheap.
Making an injectable will just increase the strain on the liver by increasing the exposure window.
Plus the oral version is very cheap.
richimundis
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I do have experience with Astera Labs 50mg/ml. Insane smell that I assume is guayacol oil. It gives me a very bad reaction in the form of an intense rash in the hands that lasts for days. No pip though I'm not prone to it.
I can only compare it with water based 100mg/ml winny, no oral sorry, and if you find a solution that you don't get allergy, rash or a bad reaction you'd probably prefer it to water based solutions.
In terms of effects I notice it acting quickly in terms of water drying, veins popping and a tad more performance in strength. I also notice that it quickly strains the liver but it clears the system fast too.
Hope it helps!
I can only compare it with water based 100mg/ml winny, no oral sorry, and if you find a solution that you don't get allergy, rash or a bad reaction you'd probably prefer it to water based solutions.
In terms of effects I notice it acting quickly in terms of water drying, veins popping and a tad more performance in strength. I also notice that it quickly strains the liver but it clears the system fast too.
Hope it helps!
THATGUYTHISGUY
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I have used oral Stanozolol and it was awesome. Deffinetly worked as intended. Talked to some of the guys at work that praised water based other than the PIP and then I saw the oil based on a vendors price list. Figured I would look into it.
bananafeet
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I understand. I have some winny suspension that I bought and never used.
I just read the case reports of liver injury with stanozolol and often injectable is indicated. It still gets metabolised by the liver and is not safer.
I bought injectable Winstrol after watching a Vigorous Steve video where he mentioned that during prep week, if you use oral Winstrol you often need around 150 mg to get the same effect that ~50 mg of injectable Winstrol provides.
Is this actually true? I’m not 100% sure, but I’m seriously considering using the injectable version instead of oral during prep.
Regarding toxicity: I’ve also tested injectable Superdrol and injectable M-Tren (from ARAIL), and in my personal case I didn’t see major changes in AST or ALT. I know they’re still toxic compounds, but for me the injectable versions didn’t seem to impact liver markers as much as the oral versions.
Is this actually true? I’m not 100% sure, but I’m seriously considering using the injectable version instead of oral during prep.
Regarding toxicity: I’ve also tested injectable Superdrol and injectable M-Tren (from ARAIL), and in my personal case I didn’t see major changes in AST or ALT. I know they’re still toxic compounds, but for me the injectable versions didn’t seem to impact liver markers as much as the oral versions.
Photon
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It's not really the same comparison.
Most oil based winny is going to have Guaiacol and that shit is probably more toxic than the AAS itself. I've not see a PIP free 50mg/ml winny without G yet.
AlexDavis43
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that's not typically how it works
inject: the drugs goes everywhere else in your body first and is massively diluted by the time it reaches your liver
oral: the bulk active drug hits your liver first at the highest potency your liver will ever see of that compound
disclaimer: I don't think it matters much for liver health of orals vs their injectable counterparts, just mentioning a note on general physiology for others
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bananafeet
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You're correct. But the length of time it takes to get eliminated is longer meaning the exposure time is longer.
By putting it directly into the system you get larger systemic stress/exposure. I'd rather sacrifice my liver first than the rest of my body.
Also how do you know that these drugs don't work as pro drugs? Like the metabolites from first pass liver metabolism are actually the active ones. It's the case for Andadrol atleast.
AlexDavis43
Member
Yeah, I mean avoiding first pass liver metabolism but what about the other 99 passes
It's more diluted than taking it orally but who knows, wild west territory
bananafeet
Member
It's totally wild. Oral estogen makes the liver produce clotting factors but injectable and transdermal doesn't.
Oral micronised progesterone makes a lot of allopregnenalone a very psychoactive drug. But injectable and transdermal doesn't.
It's all a giant mess and I ain't smart enough to figure it out. But I'm sure there is a reason why they made orals and made injectables.
